DOS Win98SE PC Build

[Dippyskoodlez]

Geforce 2 series would be a solid choice for this imo.

Also: TnT2 should have hardware T&L[and some overclocking potential]. It can also play UT2k3.

[dorsetknob]

How goes the search for components for your build ? any new developments ?

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

Geforce 2 series would be a solid choice for this imo.

Also: TnT2 should have hardware T&L[and some overclocking potential]. It can also play UT2k3.

I dont think the RIVA or Rage Series had Hardware T & L

Geforce 256 (GF Gen 1) and Higher have it

Radeon 7000 and Higher Have it

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

I dont think the RIVA or Rage Series had Hardware T & L

Geforce 256 (GF Gen 1) and Higher have it

Radeon 7000 and Higher Have it

Ah yes, you're right. Been so long. R.I.P. little TNT2.

[KieranD]

Originally Posted by dorsetknob

How goes the search for components for your build ? any new developments ?

I didn't really want to post about bids and stuff until i had actually won some or got an item.

That being said i won my self a boxed Soundblaster 64 AWE GOLD, so i am waiting for that to arrive. Almost won an AT case and working PSU for £15 but i was outbid by 50p! The seller said he would look for alternatives for me but offered a big clunky IBM XT style case; i replied it was too big and gave him the specs of a motherboard i won. I've got a bid on a K6-2 450mhz, DFI K6XV3+/66 Socket 7 Motherboard (Baby AT), 512mb ram, needs a cooler i think but here is the link... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1808748497...84.m1423.l2649

Won the auction and paid for it

Alternatively i was thinking of getting a Slot 1 PIII Celeron and if i needed later on an old i486 for much older games that are speed dependant.

I need some other stuff too.

[KieranD]

[dorsetknob]

"nice"
just pm'ed you "re stuff"
my AWE 64 is a bare card haven't posted pic's of it in other thread yet( now i'm almost ashamed to post my pic's of my AWE 64)

( i will i ain't that ashamed )

[TSX420J]

Originally Posted by KieranD

I am planning a DOS/Windows 98SE build. Okay i could use compatibility patches or a DOS Box/virtual machine but i am interested for the fun of doing a build. I've got a bunch of old games like Sonic CD PC, Command and Conquer, X Wing vs Tie Fighter, Quake II ect that i am interested in playing again (i can stomach ye old graphics if the gameplay is good).

The choice of Windows 98SE is because it has MS-DOS 7, plug and play, compatibility with Windows 95 software, larger ram and storage compatibility than 95, overall to me is better.

I heard some old DOS games do not like certain CPU speeds (maybe easier to run an i486 system separately later). I need at least a Pentium to run Sonic CD, i reckon some of the later 90s games would be too slow on an i486. Windows 98 requires a floating point unit to run. Most games can be run by using a slow down program like Mo'Slo.

• K6-2 450mhz cpu
• DFI K6XV3+/66 Socket 7 Motherboard (Baby AT)
• Voodoo 3 3500 card (possibly), Voodoo 5500, early Geforce/Radeon for hardware T&L.
• DVD drive with dvd decoder card.
• I have a 3 1/2" floppy disk drive with a black bezel.
• 5 1/4" drive possibly if i need one.
• IDE hard drive up to 120gb.
• Sound Blaster AWE 64 Gold sound card.
• PCI ethernet card.
• Baby AT PSU/Case.
• 512mb SD ram

Nice!!! I made one last year. Its great. I love vintage gaming!! Glad to see other people building old machines instead of using dosbox.

[TSX420J]

I have a pentium 100 or 133 that I was going to use in another build but never got around to making it. I also have like 64mb of ram, a at psu, at mobo and a ensoniq sound card I'm not using. I had two computers built but just using the Celeron for now.

[KieranD]

Do socket 370 coolers fit on socket 7? as i need a cooler.

[TRWOV]

Another fellow Win98SE user sub'd

[dorsetknob]

Quick answer Yes they do
Pictures Below


See if you can find one with a copper core and as big a fan as possable

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Another fellow Win98SE user sub'd

And yet another.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by dorsetknob

Quick answer Yes they do
Pictures Below
http://s19.postimage.org/lfm3zg73n/S...370_cooler.jpg
http://s19.postimage.org/cw2q1oyr7/S...G_fitted_t.jpg
See if you can find one with a copper core and as big a fan as possable

Theres always the SLK series

[TRWOV]

Once you have it up and running we should do a Win98se showdown

Here's mine: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...&postcount=140

I need to get off my ass and properly finish that build (it's missing some bling) but I've been occupied with another build of mine.

[KieranD]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Once you have it up and running we should do a Win98se showdown

Here's mine: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...&postcount=140

I need to get off my ass and properly finish that build (it's missing some bling) but I've been occupied with another build of mine.

I did follow your retro build, its pretty cool.
A Pentium III build would smash an AMD K6-2 build; although if there is any benchmarks you'd like me to do for comparison i could them.

Im in the process of getting a case and psu. I need a cooler, gpu, ≤ 120gb hard drive, dvd drive and ethernet card.

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Once you have it up and running we should do a Win98se showdown

Here's mine: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...&postcount=140

I need to get off my ass and properly finish that build (it's missing some bling) but I've been occupied with another build of mine.

I too need to finish mine. Here is a linky to my build

[KieranD]

DFI K6XV3+/66
AMD K6-2 450mhz
512mb CL3 133mhz




The board was advertised as Baby AT but it looks like ATX standard to me, unless the mounting is just Baby AT.

[dorsetknob]

Yes its Baby AT
Specs here
http://www.itox.com/pages/products/m...almb/k6xv3.php
Board review here
http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards...-30159583.html

[KieranD]

Originally Posted by dorsetknob

Yes its Baby AT
Specs here
http://www.itox.com/pages/products/m...almb/k6xv3.php
Board review here
http://reviews.cnet.com/motherboards...-30159583.html

Ah so it is baby at but uses an atx standard power supply and atx features. That's a weird combination.

I seen a modification on the back of the board wait and i will post up a picture.

[dorsetknob]

This was produced at a time when the industry was changing from AT to ATX
lots of equipment was sold that was cross compatable ie power supply units that had AT and ATX power connectors for the motherboard Cases often had holes drilled to mount Stand off posts for both AT and ATX
Some Motherboard also had duel power inputs (both AT and ATX)
Got a generic PSU that has both power connecters (250w on /off power switch at rear) in the loft Still works

[KieranD]

EDIT: I managed to get a close macro picture.




Its hooked up to the 20pin power connector and SP SW case header, which is a speed switch or some type of switch header. At first i though it was there for on some old cases you had a turbo switch but that makes no sense why its soldered to the 20pin power connector.

[eidairaman1]

that board is ATX form factor. Might be able to fit AT chassis but the specs say its ATX. Also the IO port array is ATX

[KieranD]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

that board is ATX form factor. Might be able to fit AT chassis but the specs say its ATX. Also the IO port array is ATX

I lined it up with my mates ASUS AM3+ board i have here at my house and it matched up so it has to be ATX. Whether or not it fits in an AT case with baby AT mounting is another thing.

[KieranD]

I bought 2 nice looking AT cases with AT power supplies. I feel like an idiot for believing my motherboard was Baby AT as it clearly is not. I knew from the layout it looked standard ATX but i kept reading and even the listing said Baby AT mobo, i wasnt sure if such a board could exist with ATX style features and Baby AT mounting.

About to have some bacon for lunch so right after that ill post up some pics or even a shoddy video.

Its no biggie i just dont know if i should keep one and get another motherboard or use one for another older 486 build or even just sell both and get a really horrible looking retro beige ATX case