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BetA · May 3, 2012, 11:13 PM

NFS Shift 1 - modded to the max..

DanishDevil · May 4, 2012, 01:40 AM

NFS Shift 1 was a wonderful game. Nice shots!

KingPing · May 7, 2012, 07:45 AM

Project C.A.R.S. http://www.wmdportal.com/

Build: Pre-Alpha 207, DX11, Ultra Graphics, in-game screenshots

LifeOnMars · May 8, 2012, 10:11 PM

Finally got around to playing BF3 now I have a decent enough card

Csokis · May 9, 2012, 12:07 PM

Colin McRae DiRT

Drone · May 13, 2012, 03:40 PM

Hm in pc version this room wasn't flooded.

random · May 14, 2012, 05:59 AM

Screenies from TERA, game is absolutely beautiful.

Frick · May 14, 2012, 05:20 PM

I think I love the Necromancer.

puma99dk| · May 14, 2012, 11:11 PM

Gaming a little Aion with one of my irl friends just before leaving i sitting down and enjoying the world for once ^^

TheHunter · May 19, 2012, 08:13 PM

Burnout paradise, testing EBN mod

I lowered pink hue tint a bit, but not its almost like default, SSAO is a little better though

OFF

ON

lol Krajsis2 MP

btw, nice NFS screens Virus ^^

Drone · May 20, 2012, 09:04 AM

Haven't played Diablo for ages. I forgot that Rogue never runs out of arrows.

KingPing · May 20, 2012, 09:47 AM

Project C.A.R.S. http://www.wmdportal.com/

Build: Pre-Alpha 216, DX11, Ultra Graphics, in-game footage, screenshots with MSI afterburner

To celebrate reaching the 1.000.000 Euros member funding and an overall total of 2.500.000 Euros i post more screenshots

Cockpit camera screenshots are with Helmet on, except on the Gumpert Apollo S

T3RM1N4L D0GM4 · May 20, 2012, 11:59 AM

Shots taken from my notebook... hope u like it

Chevalr1c · May 21, 2012, 06:53 AM

What game?

T3RM1N4L D0GM4 · May 21, 2012, 11:19 AM

Diablo 3

punani · May 21, 2012, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Animalpak

Didn't even see it coming!

MT Alex · May 21, 2012, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris89

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/54...7AAA2E3D4537C/
From the War Photographers collection.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/54...C3DB0FF7D52C7/
Waiting for my mates Hind to be repaired.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/54...7A5839E737C87/
Attack Two.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/54...85C3B84571870/
Me flying the AH64D

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/54...710027A3E213E/
Second mission me being a Gunner for my mate.

Chris

What game is this? ARMA? Looks like something I would like.

BetA · May 22, 2012, 02:48 PM

Some Random Screen from me

Doom3, Sniper v2, Shift1, UT3, BF3 and Strawberries..

LooooooooooooL, now that hurts i guess...

to be continued.....

BetA · May 22, 2012, 02:48 PM

continued....

T3RM1N4L D0GM4 · May 22, 2012, 06:26 PM

Diablo 3: better screenshots from my desktop system (1920x1080, all maxed, in-game AA ON)

TheHunter · May 23, 2012, 12:41 AM

testing downsampling lol

BetA · May 23, 2012, 02:17 AM

Ahhh, good evening TheHUnter..long time no see, hehe

some more Screens before i head to Bed

Doom 3 again..still modding and finding best settings...

enjoy...

Gn8 Guys

phill · May 23, 2012, 06:53 AM

Some awesome screen shots here guys

I've finally got my gaming rig right where I wanted, so I hope to grab a few screen shots later today for you

I hope you'll enjoy them

TheHunter · May 23, 2012, 01:25 PM

Hey beta, Greetz ^^

L4d2 - 20 player COOP

Richieb0y · May 25, 2012, 12:25 AM

buggy but a nice game

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May 4, 2012, 01:40 AM	#3027
DanishDevil Eligible for custom title Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,631 (3.09/day) Thanks: 1,362 Thanked 2,018 Times in 1,585 Posts System Specs	NFS Shift 1 was a wonderful game. Nice shots! __________________ [B/S/T: FS/FT Cisco VPN Gigabit Routers \| WTB] [Logitech Z-5500 Digital Soundroom \| The TPU Darkroom \| The TPU Zune Social \| Tech Net Subscribers Club]

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May 7, 2012, 07:45 AM	#3028
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May 3, 2012, 11:13 PM	#3026
BetA Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US and Germany Posts: 33 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 25 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	NFS Shift 1 - modded to the max..

May 8, 2012, 10:11 PM	#3029
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May 9, 2012, 12:07 PM	#3030
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May 13, 2012, 03:40 PM	#3031
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May 14, 2012, 05:59 AM	#3032
random Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 2,473 (1.47/day) Thanks: 1,248 Thanked 627 Times in 407 Posts System Specs	Screenies from TERA, game is absolutely beautiful. __________________ Visit my YouTube Channel ONE OK ROCK 「完全感覚Dreamer」 (Drum Cover) TD9KX

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May 14, 2012, 05:20 PM	#3033
Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,908 (2.99/day) Thanks: 1,076 Thanked 1,449 Times in 1,155 Posts System Specs	I think I love the Necromancer. __________________ Typemachine: Acer Aspire One D250 \| Atom N280 1.6 Ghz \| 1GB DDR2 \| 160GB SATA \| 10.1' 1024 x 600 \| Lubuntu 12.10 Oldbox: HP D530 \| Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz \| 1GB DDR \| 40GB \| Windows XP "The 'gentle biker' look is overdone. I'm going for 'psycho hillbilly.' "

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May 14, 2012, 11:11 PM	#3034
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May 19, 2012, 08:13 PM	#3035
TheHunter Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Hunting for Prey Posts: 290 (0.71/day) Thanks: 60 Thanked 108 Times in 65 Posts System Specs	Burnout paradise, testing EBN mod I lowered pink hue tint a bit, but not its almost like default, SSAO is a little better though OFF ON lol Krajsis2 MP btw, nice NFS screens Virus ^^

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May 20, 2012, 09:04 AM	#3036
Drone Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Nonlocal location Posts: 1,897 (1.90/day) Thanks: 62 Thanked 822 Times in 525 Posts System Specs	Haven't played Diablo for ages. I forgot that Rogue never runs out of arrows. __________________ ...the young Universe was filled with a hot dense soup of interacting protons, electrons and photons at about 2700ºC. When the protons and electrons joined to form hydrogen atoms, the light was set free

May 20, 2012, 09:47 AM	#3037
KingPing Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Argentina (South America) Posts: 749 (0.54/day) Thanks: 132 Thanked 243 Times in 172 Posts System Specs	Project C.A.R.S. http://www.wmdportal.com/ Build: Pre-Alpha 216, DX11, Ultra Graphics, in-game footage, screenshots with MSI afterburner To celebrate reaching the 1.000.000 Euros member funding and an overall total of 2.500.000 Euros i post more screenshots Cockpit camera screenshots are with Helmet on, except on the Gumpert Apollo S __________________ TRUTH is subject to change without notice Last edited by KingPing; May 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM.

May 20, 2012, 11:59 AM	#3038
T3RM1N4L D0GM4 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 164 (0.11/day) Thanks: 24 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	Shots taken from my notebook... hope u like it __________________ *... Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened ...*

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May 21, 2012, 06:53 AM	#3039
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May 21, 2012, 11:19 AM	#3040
T3RM1N4L D0GM4 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 164 (0.11/day) Thanks: 24 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	Diablo 3 __________________ *... Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened ...*

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May 22, 2012, 02:48 PM	#3043
BetA Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US and Germany Posts: 33 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 25 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	Part1 Some Random Screen from me Doom3, Sniper v2, Shift1, UT3, BF3 and Strawberries.. LooooooooooooL, now that hurts i guess... to be continued.....

May 22, 2012, 02:48 PM	#3044
BetA Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US and Germany Posts: 33 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 25 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	Part 2 continued....

May 22, 2012, 06:26 PM	#3045
T3RM1N4L D0GM4 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Italy Posts: 164 (0.11/day) Thanks: 24 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts System Specs	Diablo 3: better screenshots from my desktop system (1920x1080, all maxed, in-game AA ON) __________________ *... Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened ...*

May 23, 2012, 12:41 AM	#3046
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May 23, 2012, 02:17 AM	#3047
BetA Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: US and Germany Posts: 33 (0.02/day) Thanks: 11 Thanked 25 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	Ahhh, good evening TheHUnter..long time no see, hehe some more Screens before i head to Bed Doom 3 again..still modding and finding best settings... enjoy... Gn8 Guys

May 23, 2012, 06:53 AM	#3048
phill Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Bridgwater, Somerset Posts: 291 (0.41/day) Thanks: 595 Thanked 187 Times in 96 Posts System Specs	Some awesome screen shots here guys I've finally got my gaming rig right where I wanted, so I hope to grab a few screen shots later today for you I hope you'll enjoy them

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