PSU works, but wont power for test

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 07:06 PM

Hey guys so I'm currently building my new gaming rig (well.. first gaming rig)
And when I've watched building videos etc people seem to test the system when its not in the case to make sure things work before installing everything into the case, my problem seems to be, the PSU is working fine when I do the paperclip test, but not when it's plugged into the motherboard/gaphics card etc, my motherboard is the asus Z77 extreme 6 and the power supply is the Corsaid GS700 Uk, am I missing something here?

The ram is in, the processor is in, the Graphics card (7850) is in, but it just won't boot, earlier I flicked the switch and it went on for a second, then stopped, anyone have any ideas? :/

cadaveca · May 24, 2012, 07:09 PM

Quick on-off is usually an electrical short/bad component, or lack of 8-pin EPS plug connected.

Or, CPU is not mounted correctly.

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Quick on-off is usually an electrical short/bad component, or lack of 8-pin EPS plug connected.

Or, CPU is not mounted correctly.

8pin eps is connected, also would that be a problem with the board or the psu?

Ill remount the CPU now, does it matter if the fan is connected (Mine currently isn't)

sneekypeet · May 24, 2012, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaywray

does it matter if the fan is connected

Shouldn't, boards that run water cooling don't typically have a fan plugged in there

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

Shouldn't, boards that run water cooling don't typically have a fan plugged in there

*sigh* that'd make it too easy wouldn't it ^^'

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Quick on-off is usually an electrical short/bad component, or lack of 8-pin EPS plug connected.

Or, CPU is not mounted correctly.

Could the fact I'm using a i5 2500k on a Z77 board be causing it? I know they're backwards compatible and all but still :/

cadaveca · May 24, 2012, 07:54 PM

No, shouldn't be any issues like that, all current SKT1155 CPUs shoudl eb supproted wit hteh shipping BIOS.

Look for shorts with board and case, re-seat videocards and ram. It is possible that the combination of PCIE GPU, PCIe 3.0 board, but PCIe 2.0 CPU is part of it, I guess, although that'd be my last choice. You coudl try removing the add-in VGA, plugging monitor into the board itself, clearing CMOS, and seeing what happens...

DO you get any display on teh POST reader under the chipset cooler?

St.Alia-Of-The-Knife · May 24, 2012, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Look for shorts with board and case,

Dont forget to use motherboard standoffs!

95Viper · May 24, 2012, 08:04 PM

Please, don't start double posting... use the edit button to add info/questions/etc. Thanks.

Check all the power connections again.
Un-plug anything not needed, like dvd/cd players, hubs, docks, etc.
Try with one stick of ram (swap them and try again)
Check your cpu is properly mounted and inserted. (make sure it has the cooler/HS in place! And, any plastic covering has been removed.)
Reset the bios(manual should have the instructions)
If, you are testing outside the case, make sure it is not on anything conductive.
If, you have installed it; did you use standoffs under the motherboard?
If, you have a motherboard speaker and a place on the motherboard for it's connection... try it and count any error beeps.

If you can gain access to another PSU, you might want to try it.
The paper clip test alone just shows the power up signal is working and the psu fan spins...
you need to test the PSU outputs with a meter or a load (fan, light (like and led setup),etc.).
A meter is usually available everywhere for a little money. Radio Shacks, Sears, Home Depots, Lowes, Best Buy, Harbor Freight, Northern, K-Mart, Big Lots, etc.

EDIT:
List all your specs and any thing you have plugged in the system when you are trying it.

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

No, shouldn't be any issues like that, all current SKT1155 CPUs shoudl eb supproted wit hteh shipping BIOS.

Look for shorts with board and case, re-seat videocards and ram. It is possible that the combination of PCIE GPU, PCIe 3.0 board, but PCIe 2.0 CPU is part of it, I guess, although that'd be my last choice. You coudl try removing the add-in VGA, plugging monitor into the board itself, clearing CMOS, and seeing what happens...

DO you get any display on teh POST reader under the chipset cooler?

How do I check for shorts when the mobo wont power? like, I mean it wont power at all, anything, I switched the ram, no change, tried switching pci ports, no change, but! I didn't try the bios thing, ill try that.

What is the post reader under the chipset cooler? :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

Please, don't start double posting... use the edit button to add info/questions/etc. Thanks.

Check all the power connections again.
Un-plug anything not needed, like dvd/cd players, hubs, docks, etc.
Try with one stick of ram (swap them and try again)
Check your cpu is properly mounted and inserted. (make sure it has the cooler/HS in place! And, any plastic covering has been removed.)
Reset the bios(manual should have the instructions)
If, you are testing outside the case, make sure it is not on anything conductive.
If, you have installed it; did you use standoffs under the motherboard?
If, you have a motherboard speaker and a place on the motherboard for it's connection... try it and count any error beeps.

If you can gain access to another PSU, you might want to try it.
The paper clip test alone just shows the power up signal is working and the psu fan spins...
you need to test the PSU outputs with a meter or a load (fan, light (like and led setup),etc.).
A meter is usually available everywhere for a little money. Radio Shacks, Sears, Home Depots, Lowes, Best Buy, Harbor Freight, Northern, K-Mart, Big Lots, etc.

EDIT:
List all your specs and any thing you have plugged in the system when you are trying it.

Thanks

Sorry about the double post!

Nothing except the Graphics card and Motherboard have anything plugged into it, I am testing outside of the case as I said I was testing it before putting it into the case incase anything was wrong.
Cpu has been remounted twice now, checked all the pins with a mag glass and none are bent or anything like that, but you say I should have the Heat sink in place? Will that make a difference?

Gona try resetting the Bios but how can I do that when no power seems to get getting to the board?
I cut open a large card board box and put it on a layer over the table so there's nothing conductive and I've been grounding myself every 3 minutes with a timer :/

Unfortunately I don't have a meter at the moment, but if it makes a difference sometimes when it's turned on it'll go for 2-3 secs and power the GPU and light the board for a blink of an eye then stops.

Specs =
As Rock Z77 extreme 6
Asus 7850 GPU
I5 2500k
G.skill Ram 8gb 2 sets of 4gb
PSU Is the corsair GS700W Gamer series.

cadaveca · May 24, 2012, 08:13 PM

There is a dual-digit LED display located under the chipset cooler that shows 2-number codes as the board boots. If no codes are displayed, there is a short, or the board is bad. Pretty much anything else, and there will be at least one code shown.

atlblackops · May 24, 2012, 08:20 PM

Sounds like you have a short somewhere.

To rule it out, start with 1 component at a time:

Motherboard
1 stick RAM
Video Card
addition pci cards
additional Dimms

95Viper · May 24, 2012, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaywray

you say i should have the heat sink in place?

yes

Nice setup there, JayWray!

cadaveca · May 24, 2012, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

yes

Oh. wow. Yeah, you need a heatsink on the CPU.

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

There is a dual-digit LED display located under the chipset cooler that shows 2-number codes as the board boots. If no codes are displayed, there is a short, or the board is bad. Pretty much anything else, and there will be at least one code shown.

There is a small 2 digit LED light doctor thing on the board, unfortunately it's no help since I can't get any power to it! /:

Quote:

Originally Posted by atlblackops

Sounds like you have a short somewhere.

To rule it out, start with 1 component at a time:

Motherboard
1 stick RAM
Video Card
addition pci cards
additional Dimms

Unfortunately already tried that ): Is a short the problem of the motherboard or the PSU?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

yes

Will fit it now and see.

Also thanks for the getup compliment ^^' If I can get it to work that is! haha

Bare with me here folks! might take me a bit of time to install the heatsink (big ass noctua haha) back soon!

atlblackops · May 24, 2012, 08:33 PM

If the motherboard on a test bed or actually in the case? It could be a short caused by a grounding issue.

Crap Daddy · May 24, 2012, 08:35 PM

Are you sure your board is an Asus Z77 Extreme 6? I think it's an ASRock. Reconnect the 24 pin power to the mobo and the 8 pin CPU power. Connect power to your video card. There is a start button on the mobo. Switch your PSU to on and push the start button.

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atlblackops

If the motherboard on a test bed or actually in the case? It could be a short caused by a grounding issue.

It's on a table with a thick layer of cardboard between it and the table, and I've been grounding every 3 mins :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Are you sure your board is an Asus Z77 Extreme 6? I think it's an ASRock. Reconnect the 24 pin power to the mobo and the 8 pin CPU power. Connect power to your video card. There is a start button on the mobo. Switch your PSU to on and push the start button.

You re indeed correct sir, My mistake typing asus haha, yeah there is a power button but it doesn't seem to be doing anything since the psu doesn't seem to want to give it any juice!

95Viper · May 24, 2012, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Are you sure your board is an Asus Z77 Extreme 6? I think it's an ASRock.

See post #10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaywray

Specs =
As Rock Z77 extreme 6
Asus 7850 GPU
I5 2500k
G.skill Ram 8gb 2 sets of 4gb
PSU Is the corsair GS700W Gamer series.

Edit:
Was there a ninja edit?

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

See post #10

Edit:
Was there a ninja edit?

pfffft.... I don't know what you're talking about

95Viper · May 24, 2012, 09:03 PM

What is the Model/Part numbers on your memory?

Are you trying it with just one stick in A1 or B1 then A2 or B2?
And, swap the sticks.

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

What is the Model/Part numbers on your memory?

Are you trying it with just one stick in A1 or B1 then A2 or B2?
And, swap the sticks.

Please don't take this the wrong way! But what do the Ram sticks have to do with powering the board? (not saying you're wrong I'm just curious as I'm new to this.

Also the frigging heatsink wont even work now ether )): the brackets wont fit with the spacers on

^ Never mind got the heat sink, just can't put it on a certain way, there's a gold cylinder blocking horizontal alignment on the board though from what I can tell.

the heatsink is now on, thermal paste and all, went well.
Although, no change ):

Jaywray · May 24, 2012, 10:22 PM

IT'S WORKING, big thank you guys! No idea how, but when I plugged in the fan the whole thing just started up and running! Although I do have to hold the motherboards power button at the same time as I flick the switch, although it does that Start and stopping thing without the heatsink still.
Not gona lie guys, when it all came alive I was near jumping around shouting "IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIIIVE!"

Haha

But quick question, em... the power and reset buttons on my haf 922 case will take care of the holding in the power on the mobo thing right?

Once again cheers haha, I wouldn't have thought to put the heatsink on first otherwise ^^'

Crap Daddy · May 25, 2012, 06:29 AM

Yes! Do you have the HSF mounted on the CPU? Don't try anything without that being properly mounted. Put the mobo in the case and be careful to use the standoffs. Read your mobo manual to see where and how to connect power/reset/HDD activity plugs from your case. Good luck and come back here if you have any problems.

Jaywray · May 25, 2012, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Yes! Do you have the HSF mounted on the CPU? Don't try anything without that being properly mounted. Put the mobo in the case and be careful to use the standoffs. Read your mobo manual to see where and how to connect power/reset/HDD activity plugs from your case. Good luck and come back here if you have any problems.

Was a long night, but everything's up and ready

need to upload windows 7 and that's me, although the keyboard still hasn't arrived yet, which is driving me crazy because it's the only thing that was ordered first class haha!

May 24, 2012, 07:09 PM	#2
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,770 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,485 Thanked 5,202 Times in 3,201 Posts System Specs	Quick on-off is usually an electrical short/bad component, or lack of 8-pin EPS plug connected. Or, CPU is not mounted correctly. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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Processor:	Intel i5 3570K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximmus V Formula
Cooling:	Corsair H100
Memory:	16 GB G.Skill F3-2666C11Q-16GTXD
Video Card:	AMD Radeon HD7950 3GB x2 w/AMD Catalyst 12.10
Hard Disk:	OCZ Nocti 60GB mSATA, Crucial M4 120GB x2
Optical Drive:	LG BluRay/HD-DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	3x Dell U2412M
Case:	LianLi T60
Sound Card:	N/A
PSU:	Silverstone Strider 750W GOLD
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Sound Card:	Realtek on board > Sony receiver > Cerwin Vega's
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May 24, 2012, 07:54 PM	#7
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,770 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,485 Thanked 5,202 Times in 3,201 Posts System Specs	No, shouldn't be any issues like that, all current SKT1155 CPUs shoudl eb supproted wit hteh shipping BIOS. Look for shorts with board and case, re-seat videocards and ram. It is possible that the combination of PCIE GPU, PCIe 3.0 board, but PCIe 2.0 CPU is part of it, I guess, although that'd be my last choice. You coudl try removing the add-in VGA, plugging monitor into the board itself, clearing CMOS, and seeing what happens... DO you get any display on teh POST reader under the chipset cooler? __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

System Name:	Eyefinity Gamer
Processor:	Intel i5 3570K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximmus V Formula
Cooling:	Corsair H100
Memory:	16 GB G.Skill F3-2666C11Q-16GTXD
Video Card:	AMD Radeon HD7950 3GB x2 w/AMD Catalyst 12.10
Hard Disk:	OCZ Nocti 60GB mSATA, Crucial M4 120GB x2
Optical Drive:	LG BluRay/HD-DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	3x Dell U2412M
Case:	LianLi T60
Sound Card:	N/A
PSU:	Silverstone Strider 750W GOLD
Software:	Windows 8 Pro
Benchmarks:	Benchmarking is for suckers. ;)

May 24, 2012, 07:06 PM	#1
Jaywray Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 (0.08/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	PSU works, but wont power for test Hey guys so I'm currently building my new gaming rig (well.. first gaming rig) And when I've watched building videos etc people seem to test the system when its not in the case to make sure things work before installing everything into the case, my problem seems to be, the PSU is working fine when I do the paperclip test, but not when it's plugged into the motherboard/gaphics card etc, my motherboard is the asus Z77 extreme 6 and the power supply is the Corsaid GS700 Uk, am I missing something here? The ram is in, the processor is in, the Graphics card (7850) is in, but it just won't boot, earlier I flicked the switch and it went on for a second, then stopped, anyone have any ideas? :/

Processor:	Phenom II 955 @ 3955Mhz 1.45v
Motherboard:	ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
Cooling:	CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 push-pull /2x140mm + 2x230mm + 2x120mm = super noisy computer
Memory:	4x2Gb Kingston DDR3-1333 8-8-8-22 @ 1527Mhz
Video Card:	Crossfire 2x Sapphire Radeon 6850 @ 850/1200
Hard Disk:	320Gb Western Digital WD3200AAJS
Optical Drive:	Sony DRU-820A dvd burner /Lite-On LT48327S cd burner
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 23" 1920x1080
Case:	Azza Solano 1000R Full-Tower
Sound Card:	VIA VT1708S (integrated) + quadraphonic speakers
PSU:	CoolerMaster Extreme Power Plus 700w
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

May 24, 2012, 08:04 PM	#9
95Viper Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: στο άλφα έως ωμέγα Posts: 3,839 (2.28/day) Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 1,416 Times in 1,115 Posts System Specs	Please, don't start double posting... use the edit button to add info/questions/etc. Thanks. Check all the power connections again. Un-plug anything not needed, like dvd/cd players, hubs, docks, etc. Try with one stick of ram (swap them and try again) Check your cpu is properly mounted and inserted. (make sure it has the cooler/HS in place! And, any plastic covering has been removed.) Reset the bios(manual should have the instructions) If, you are testing outside the case, make sure it is not on anything conductive. If, you have installed it; did you use standoffs under the motherboard? If, you have a motherboard speaker and a place on the motherboard for it's connection... try it and count any error beeps. If you can gain access to another PSU, you might want to try it. The paper clip test alone just shows the power up signal is working and the psu fan spins... you need to test the PSU outputs with a meter or a load (fan, light (like and led setup),etc.). A meter is usually available everywhere for a little money. Radio Shacks, Sears, Home Depots, Lowes, Best Buy, Harbor Freight, Northern, K-Mart, Big Lots, etc. EDIT: List all your specs and any thing you have plugged in the system when you are trying it. __________________ Heatware: 95viper TECHPOWERUP GEAR!

System Name:	Ha/AhHa
Processor:	QX9650 SLAWN C1/i7-980x
Motherboard:	GA-X48_DS4 (F3B bios)/Gigabyte x58A-UDR3 v 2.0(Fh1 bios)
Cooling:	CNPS9900 LED/H60
Memory:	8 Gig of G.Skill F2-8800CL5D/24 Gig Corsair Vengence
Video Card:	Galaxy GTS 465/Gigabyte HD6950 unlocked w\ 1536 shaders
Hard Disk:	150 VRaptor,160 WD, 500 WD,2X 74 Gig VR(RAID0)/SanDisk Extreme 120, 2 WD VR(Raid 0),Seagate 1 TB
Optical Drive:	Asus/HP dvd1270 and Samsung
CRT/LCD Model:	ViewSonic VX2250wm-LED/Asus 266H
Case:	CM-690/CM-690 II adv
Sound Card:	On board (Realtek)/On board (Realtek)
PSU:	PC P&C 750/PC P&C Silencer 950
Software:	Windows 7 Build 7601 SP1 - 64 bit/Same

May 24, 2012, 08:13 PM	#11
cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,770 (4.14/day) Thanks: 4,485 Thanked 5,202 Times in 3,201 Posts System Specs	There is a dual-digit LED display located under the chipset cooler that shows 2-number codes as the board boots. If no codes are displayed, there is a short, or the board is bad. Pretty much anything else, and there will be at least one code shown. __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

May 24, 2012, 08:20 PM	#12
atlblackops Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 10 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like you have a short somewhere. To rule it out, start with 1 component at a time: Motherboard 1 stick RAM Video Card addition pci cards additional Dimms

System Name:	PoisonIvy
Processor:	Intel i7 3770k
Motherboard:	Asus p8z77-v Deluxe
Cooling:	H20 - Swiftech Apogee XT
Memory:	16GB Corsair Vegeance
Video Card:	2 x Evga GTX670
Hard Disk:	2tb Samsung Spinpoint
CRT/LCD Model:	27" HP2709
Case:	Corsair Obsidian 650D
Sound Card:	X-Fi Titanium HD
PSU:	Corsair HX1050
Software:	WinBlows 7

May 24, 2012, 08:33 PM	#16
atlblackops Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 10 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If the motherboard on a test bed or actually in the case? It could be a short caused by a grounding issue.

May 24, 2012, 08:35 PM	#17
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,284 (2.44/day) Thanks: 943 Thanked 963 Times in 671 Posts System Specs	Are you sure your board is an Asus Z77 Extreme 6? I think it's an ASRock. Reconnect the 24 pin power to the mobo and the 8 pin CPU power. Connect power to your video card. There is a start button on the mobo. Switch your PSU to on and push the start button.

System Name:	Dusty/Rusty
Processor:	i5-2500K/E8400
Motherboard:	ASRock P67Extreme4/ASRock 4core1600P35
Cooling:	CM Hyper TX3/Intel stock
Memory:	4x2GB Kingston HyperX/2x2GB DDR2
Video Card:	EVGA GTX570SC/Palit GTX560SE
Hard Disk:	WD BlueCaviar 500GB/Spinpoint F3 1TB/Seagate Barracuda 500 GB
Optical Drive:	LG/Asus
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster T220/Samsung 32" LCD TV
Case:	Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced/El Cheapo
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Senn HD518/Sony SSB1000
PSU:	Corsair TX650/Corsair TX650M
Software:	Windows 7/Windows 8 Pro

May 24, 2012, 09:03 PM	#21
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May 24, 2012, 10:22 PM	#23
Jaywray Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 47 (0.08/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	IT'S WORKING, big thank you guys! No idea how, but when I plugged in the fan the whole thing just started up and running! Although I do have to hold the motherboards power button at the same time as I flick the switch, although it does that Start and stopping thing without the heatsink still. Not gona lie guys, when it all came alive I was near jumping around shouting "IT'S ALIVE, IT'S ALIIIVE!" Haha But quick question, em... the power and reset buttons on my haf 922 case will take care of the holding in the power on the mobo thing right? Once again cheers haha, I wouldn't have thought to put the heatsink on first otherwise ^^'

May 25, 2012, 06:29 AM	#24
Crap Daddy Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 2,284 (2.44/day) Thanks: 943 Thanked 963 Times in 671 Posts System Specs	Yes! Do you have the HSF mounted on the CPU? Don't try anything without that being properly mounted. Put the mobo in the case and be careful to use the standoffs. Read your mobo manual to see where and how to connect power/reset/HDD activity plugs from your case. Good luck and come back here if you have any problems.

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