Only 7.9 Win7 Experience???

[lilhasselhoffer]

I7 3930k, overclocked to 4.37 (no extra voltage).

WEI score: 7.8




Conclusion: WEI is crap. That is all.

[eidairaman1]

WEI max score is 7.9, 5.9 will always be there due to the HDD, if your sick of seing 5.9 you have to re-run the tool.

WEI is just to determine if you have minimum requirements to run Aero Desktop.

[AthlonX2]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

WEI is just to determine if you have minimum requirements to run Aero Desktop.

Not true,the Games for Windows Platform uses the WEI to determine if you can run the game

[Raw]

Originally Posted by Mathragh

Iirc, the 7,9 score for a CPU can only be obtained by having 16 cores(either logical or real cores).
It also still has to be quite quick per thread, but seeing as I've got a 7,8 with my *8-core* bulldozer at 4,4GHz aswell, it seems like the 16 core thingy could hold true.
It might also explain why i5 2500k's can never score as high as a bulldozer 8 core, eventhough they might have more raw processing power. The limit for a quadcoremight be something like 7,5, while 8 cores gets you to 7,8 max.

Huh? Where did you hear that?

How does the lowly AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core processor 5200+ score a perfect 7.9 if what you said is fact?

[Mathragh]

Originally Posted by Raw

Huh? Where did you hear that?

How does the lowly AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core processor 5200+ score a perfect 7.9 if what you said is fact?

It shouldnt, its most probaby a bug if no other processor here is able to get 7,9.
But then again, I might recall wrong(hence the *iirc*) :P

[Raw]

Originally Posted by Mathragh

It shouldnt, its most probaby a bug if no other processor here is able to get 7,9.
But then again, I might recall wrong(hence the *iirc*) :P

Nope, not a bug. It does score 7.9 WEI and that's a fact?
So do a lot of other lower processors than the i5-2500.

So much for the Windows score, eh?

Here, thanks to Wiz for the link...http://www.weishare.net/

[Mathragh]

Originally Posted by Raw

Nope, not a bug. It does score 7.9 WEI and that's a fact!
So do a lot of other lower processors than the i5-2500.

So much for the Windows score, eh?

Here, thanks to Wiz for the link...http://www.weishare.net/

Well, if you feel more comfortable believing WPI would give CPU's which are inferior in all ways a higher score than superior CPU's, i'm not going to stop you.

However, it would strike me as quite odd that WPI isnt based on any performance number at all.

I totally agree that it does not give any absolute measurable score compared to CPU performance(perhaps excluding number of processing cores available), however generally WPI score increases with a better CPU, so its not just a randomly generated number.

Therefore, I would reason that those weaksauce CPU's scoring a 7,9 are either a bug, or a fake(we all know how easy it is to fake a WPI score). I'm not sure how easy it is to fool that site, but my argument still stands.

[Raw]

Originally Posted by Mathragh

Well, if you feel more comfortable believing WPI would give CPU's which are inferior in all ways a higher score than superior CPU's, i'm not going to stop you.

However, it would strike me as quite odd that WPI isnt based on any performance number at all.

I totally agree that it does not give any absolute measurable score compared to CPU performance(perhaps excluding number of processing cores available), however generally WPI score increases with a better CPU, so its not just a randomly generated number.

Therefore, I would reason that those weaksauce CPU's scoring a 7,9 are either a bug, or a fake(we all know how easy it is to fake a WPI score). I'm not sure how easy it is to fool that site, but my argument still stands.

Well, it strikes me as odd too.
But I only pointed it out because of your earlier post where you said "score for a CPU can only be obtained by having 16 cores(either logical or real cores)."
The way you stated that sounded like you knew what you were talking about!

Here...let's have a beer and forget about all this drivel. It's meaningless anyways.
Toast to you!!!

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by AthlonX2

Not true,the Games for Windows Platform uses the WEI to determine if you can run the game

ya its a simplicity tool but see i just remember reading about it being used for AERO Primarily, never anything pertaining to GFW schematic (Is that even still around)

[Mathragh]

Originally Posted by Raw

Well, it strikes me as odd too.
But I only pointed it out because of your earlier post where you said "score for a CPU can only be obtained by having 16 cores(either logical or real cores)."
The way you stated that sounded like you knew what you were talking about!

Here...let's have a beer and forget about all this drivel. It's meaningless anyways.
Toast to you!!!

Sounds good to me!
And i'll be the last to say i'm always correct lol, knowledge is never absolute.

[lyndonguitar]

Originally Posted by AthlonX2

all you have to do is go to Windows\Performance\WinSAT\DataStore and open the xml file in word and make everything say 7.9

There you go, Problem solved

[theeldest]

If you do the WEI via command line you can actually see the raw numbers it gets from the tests.

here's a bit on the CPU test: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc742175.aspx

Also, 2x AMD Opteron 6128s gets me a 7.6 on the CPU. (6128 = 8 cores @ 2.00GHz)

[theeldest]

Originally Posted by theeldest

If you do the WEI via command line you can actually see the raw numbers it gets from the tests.

here's a bit on the CPU test: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc742175.aspx

Also, 2x AMD Opteron 6128s gets me a 7.6 on the CPU. (6128 = 8 cores @ 2.00GHz)

Just checked on a second system. It's a 7.6 regardless of memory. One system had 16GB @ 1600MHz, the other has 128GB at 1333MHz. Both systems got 7.6 with 16 total cores.


EDIT: On a 3rd system with 2x AMD Opteron 6168s I also get 7.6. (6168 = 12 cores @ 1.9 Ghz)

[potanda]

AMD Fx-8120 @ 4.4Ghz 7.8

[Mussels]

WEI is just crap. i dont see why we even need a thread on this.

[potanda]

Makes me sure feel better about my Pc now usaly everyone i7 rigs makes me sad not on this thread though xD

[mog22wai]

I had a 7.9 for my I7-980x EE at stock clocks when I first installed it in 2010. Since it's dropped to 7.8.

[puma99dk|]

Originally Posted by Mussels

WEI is just crap. i dont see why we even need a thread on this.

i can't agree more, bcs even according to WEI "Desktop performance for Windows Aero" can score lower than gaming and not like it needs more gfx power

[FordGT90Concept]

WEI Vista: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...-Windows-Vista
WEI 7: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/w...perience-Index

From Vista link:

Processor subscore. This subscore measures the performance of your processor when tasked with several common Windows-based activities. The subscore represents the average of those measurements.

I think it's very possible that Microsoft has some secret sauce requirement for unlocking 7.9 (e.g. 4 physical processors). It could also simply be bugged.


Bottom line: it doesn't matter. The question to be asking is this: is it fast enough for you?

[eidairaman1]

this is only a generic guage of hardware from 2007/2009

[stayplation3]

my amd 965 BE @ 4GHz gets 7.6

[TatsuZZmage]

yeah 7.9 is the max of win7. win8 has a max at 9.9 just got a 8.1/8.6 on my 7970 and a 7.5 on my stock 1055 thuban. My video score might go up if I had a mb with pcie 2.0 or 3.0 instead of 1.1 lol.

Also something you may want to look at is chip features if your chip has a encryption or compression speed boosting feature your cpu may score better.

@Mog22wai I remember seeing an article talking about silicone aging/wear. Seems electrons cause the circuit paths to widen slowing chip performance.