What's a good multi-tasking laptop?

[JDK]

I'm looking to replace one of my laptops, a HP HDX16. I'm in need of a new machine that can handle running various resource heavy programs simultaneously. For example, I'm usually running Photoshop CS4, Windows Media Player, TweetDeck, FilaZilla, Microsoft Word and Google Chrome with around 4-5 tabs open at the exact same time. I edit a lot of photos, design logos and blog, so the machine needs to be able to keep up with me. The laptop I have now, which is packaged with an Intel Core 2 Duo T9900, an Nvidia GeForce 130M video card, 6 gigs of RAM, an 320GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, a Blu-Ray drive and a backlit keyboard, has held up great and has done a good job at handling the load, but after 4 years I think it's time to replace it with something a little more updated. Not to mention, the monitor recently crapped out on me, forcing me to use an external for now, and it tends to overheat quite often. I have a PC so the laptop won't be my only machine, but it will be used more then the PC for work, so it basically needs to be as powerful as a desktop.

My budget is around $2K. I would of course prefer to spend less but understand that good multi-tasking laptops don't come cheap. If somebody could point me in the direction of some good laptops, I would greatly appreciate it.

[tacosRcool]

Well one of the first things I would recommend you is to get an Intel i7 processor. Quad core with 8 way multitasking. I'm just gonna throw out some laptops that will fit the bill:

MSI G Series GT700NC-008US - $1,549.99
MSI G Series GT700NC-008US Notebook Intel Core i7 ...

SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C-S01US - $1,899.99
SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C-S01US Notebook Intel Cor...

HP ENVY 15-3040NR - $1,199.99
HP ENVY 15-3040NR Notebook Intel Core i7 2670QM(2....

[phanbuey]

Originally Posted by tacosRcool

Well one of the first things I would recommend you is to get an Intel i7 processor. Quad core with 8 way multitasking. I'm just gonna throw out some laptops that will fit the bill:

MSI G Series GT700NC-008US - $1,549.99
MSI G Series GT700NC-008US Notebook Intel Core i7 ...

SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C-S01US - $1,899.99
SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C-S01US Notebook Intel Cor...

HP ENVY 15-3040NR - $1,199.99
HP ENVY 15-3040NR Notebook Intel Core i7 2670QM(2....

That envy looks awesome.

Also - the bottleneck with lots of apps running can also be your HD... Upgrade to an SSD and that laptop will feel like a different machine.

[Batou1986]

I would take a look at Lenovo, Toshibia and Asus in that order, out of all the laptops I work on they are just plain deigned to work well and last. Where HP's are designed to work for 3 years and then fail so you can buy a new one.

[Frick]

Originally Posted by phanbuey

That envy looks awesome.

Also - the bottleneck with lots of apps running can also be your HD... Upgrade to an SSD and that laptop will feel like a different machine.

It is a C2D and it is four years old.. If he's using it professinally it might be time to upgrade.

[JDK]

Originally Posted by tacosRcool

Well one of the first things I would recommend you is to get an Intel i7 processor. Quad core with 8 way multitasking. I'm just gonna throw out some laptops that will fit the bill:

MSI G Series GT700NC-008US - $1,549.99
MSI G Series GT700NC-008US Notebook Intel Core i7 ...

SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C-S01US - $1,899.99
SAMSUNG Series 7 NP700G7C-S01US Notebook Intel Cor...

HP ENVY 15-3040NR - $1,199.99
HP ENVY 15-3040NR Notebook Intel Core i7 2670QM(2....

That Samsung looks like a badass machine. Thanks for your suggestions.

[JDK]

Originally Posted by phanbuey

That envy looks awesome.

Also - the bottleneck with lots of apps running can also be your HD... Upgrade to an SSD and that laptop will feel like a different machine.

Originally Posted by Frick

It is a C2D and it is four years old.. If he's using it professinally it might be time to upgrade.

I'm not quite sure what a SSD or how it differs from an HD, nor do I have any idea what a C2D is.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by JDK

I'm not quite sure what a SSD or how it differs from an HD, nor do I have any idea what a C2D is.

SSD is solid state, it doesn't spin like a normal hard drive. Access speeds go from 100mb/s to 550 mb/s

[JDK]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

SSD is solid state, it doesn't spin like a normal hard drive. Access speeds go from 100mb/s to 550 mb/s

Sounds easy enough.

What's its main purpose? Would it be used to store the OS or for saving files/programs?

[Sinzia]

Originally Posted by JDK

Sounds easy enough.

What's its main purpose? Would it be used to store the OS or for saving files/programs?

Think of it along the lines of a hard drive that has 0 seek time, and can saturate the SATA II/SATA III bus speeds.

They make even old machines fast, I swear by them and have them in all my machines, even my HTPC.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by JDK

Sounds easy enough.

What's its main purpose? Would it be used to store the OS or for saving files/programs?

You can use it as your primary drive assuming you have enough space. Current price is about 120gb for $100ish.

Performance on an SSD is the biggest, noticable performance increase most people can/will see when doing non gaming related tasks.

The only really intensive apps you listed are Adobe apps, so you will want to feed it as much CPU, and memory as possible. A faster HDD will make opening/save times a good bit faster, and the system will just feel significantly snappier.

Assuming you are using CS5/CS6, you can also get more benefits out of using a GOOD video card, too, so don't use the Intel integrated. Get atleast a mid-line GPU for professional work. Depending on your battery needs, ofcourse.

If you don't need significant battery life, you can go with a higher end MSI/Sager, and get a power house of a laptop for around $1500. You lost significant portability and battery life though. Life tethered is a huge performance increase at the cost of mobility.

Going for power, the MSI GT60 series (15", 1920x1080 screen) can be loaded with a GTX670m, a 2.2-3.0 i7, and 16gb+ of ram.

It allows a configuration of SSD primary OS, and a HDD for bulk storage, as well as a CDROM.

http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt60-0nc0...wconfigure=yes

2.3ghz ivy bridge, optional screen color calibration, 16gb DDR3 1600, 120GB Intel 520 SSD Primary, 750Gb 7200 RPM Secondary. Blu-ray.

$1800.

Optionally, Swap the Blu-ray drive for a HDD bay for more storage.

GT60 also has a backlit keyboard, and USB 3. It's a pretty solid machine

[JDK]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

You can use it as your primary drive assuming you have enough space. Current price is about 120gb for $100ish.

Performance on an SSD is the biggest, noticable performance increase most people can/will see when doing non gaming related tasks.

The only really intensive apps you listed are Adobe apps, so you will want to feed it as much CPU, and memory as possible. A faster HDD will make opening/save times a good bit faster, and the system will just feel significantly snappier.

Assuming you are using CS5/CS6, you can also get more benefits out of using a GOOD video card, too, so don't use the Intel integrated. Get atleast a mid-line GPU for professional work. Depending on your battery needs, ofcourse.

If you don't need significant battery life, you can go with a higher end MSI/Sager, and get a power house of a laptop for around $1500. You lost significant portability and battery life though. Life tethered is a huge performance increase at the cost of mobility.

Going for power, the MSI GT60 series (15", 1920x1080 screen) can be loaded with a GTX670m, a 2.2-3.0 i7, and 16gb+ of ram.

It allows a configuration of SSD primary OS, and a HDD for bulk storage, as well as a CDROM.

http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt60-0nc0...wconfigure=yes

2.3ghz ivy bridge, optional screen color calibration, 16gb DDR3 1600, 120GB Intel 520 SSD Primary, 750Gb 7200 RPM Secondary. Blu-ray.

$1800.

Optionally, Swap the Blu-ray drive for a HDD bay for more storage.

GT60 also has a backlit keyboard, and USB 3. It's a pretty solid machine

Will there be any added benefit to picking a more powerful processor, say a 2.6-3.6 over a 2.2-3.0?

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by JDK

Will there be any added benefit to picking a more powerful processor, say a 2.6-3.6 over a 2.2-3.0?

If you are using photoshop, you will have a faster/more responsive effect application (Open task monitor on a secondary screen while editing a photo, and watch the graph.)

The actual time difference between a 2.3 Vs a 2.5 will probably not be much, but a 2.3 Vs a 3.0 would be significant.

With GPU acceleration assisting, a 2.3 should suffice if you want to keep the price down. if you have the money to spend, get the 2.7, because it has an additional 2MB of cache. $530 is a pretty whopper of a difference though, i would get the 2.3.

[JDK]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

If you are using photoshop, you will have a faster/more responsive effect application (Open task monitor on a secondary screen while editing a photo, and watch the graph.)

The actual time difference between a 2.3 Vs a 2.5 will probably not be much, but a 2.3 Vs a 3.0 would be significant.

With GPU acceleration assisting, a 2.3 should suffice if you want to keep the price down. if you have the money to spend, get the 2.7, because it has an additional 2MB of cache. $530 is a pretty whopper of a difference though, i would get the 2.3.

Yea, just notice that price

MSI is a good company when it comes to laptops? Never heard of them. Then again, I'm not a big computer guy, I just know how to use them.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by JDK

Yea, just notice that price

MSI is a good company when it comes to laptops? Never heard of them. Then again, I'm not a big computer guy, I just know how to use them.

I used to own a Sager, and I have used 2 different MSI models, the GT60 and the sandy-bridge model before it. They are solid laptops

MSI is one of the bigger component manufacturers(motherboard/GPU), but their laptops are definitely one of their best.

[JDK]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

I used to own a Sager, and I have used 2 different MSI models, the GT60 and the sandy-bridge model before it. They are solid laptops

MSI is one of the bigger component manufacturers(motherboard/GPU), but their laptops are definitely one of their best.

Their all-in-one pc's look pretty cool. I know this is about laptops, but any thoughts on those?

One of the main reasons I'm looking for a laptop is cause I'm using it in an area of the house that doesn't have room for a tower. I have a main desktop somewhere else, which I may be looking to replace soon as well, but the MSI All-In-One PC's look like a nice alternative for the laptop, if they're just as powerful. I notice though that they only come equipped with an i5 processor and only allow for up to 8GB of RAM.

[stinger608]

Originally Posted by LorraineKerri

I would take a look at Lenovo
http://www.cnweb.info/1.jpg

Trouble with Lenovo is the IBM bloat ware that is usually included with each system. One of the better systems for portables that I have seen is Asus. They don't have a bunch of bloat ware installed slowing the system down, usually have the ability to upgrade the video card where a lot of the other builders the video card is imbedded into the motherboard leaving the end user unable to upgrade the video card. A lot of the upper Asus models allow for two hard drives to be installed giving the user the opportunity to either RAID a pair of mechanical hard drives, have an SSD and a larger drive for storage, or using dual SSD's in a RAID for security or larger capacity.

[Sinzia]

Don't forget, SSD's make the best scratch disks for Adobe stuff!

[Hayder_Master]

i7qm + SSD + 8G ram + nvidia card
i point for nvidia card cuz photoshop use Nvidia Cuda cores which is makes works on extra size photos 10 times faster than CPU, so forget ATI cards with your work.

[Aquinus]

How often do you use this laptop and how often do you pick it up and move it, because the most you pick it up the more will wish it was lighter if you get a 17" laptop. If it isn't going to move much, go for a 17. Also in addition to an SSD, I would go with a smaller SSD and keep an SSD in the second bay if you choose a laptop with two drive bays. But like with anything else, it costs money so it really depends on how much money you want to dump into your laptop.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by stinger608

Trouble with Lenovo is the IBM bloat ware that is usually included with each system. One of the better systems for portables that I have seen is Asus. They don't have a bunch of bloat ware installed slowing the system down, usually have the ability to upgrade the video card where a lot of the other builders the video card is imbedded into the motherboard leaving the end user unable to upgrade the video card. A lot of the upper Asus models allow for two hard drives to be installed giving the user the opportunity to either RAID a pair of mechanical hard drives, have an SSD and a larger drive for storage, or using dual SSD's in a RAID for security or larger capacity.

I had a system with an MXM slot, and to be honest, it really isn't of any major value unless you upgrade from a low end card to a high end card, and even then you usually don't have the cooling or power capabilities to do so. Having a radeon 6990 won't be out dated by any significant margin, and you'll likely be looking for an IPS screen/faster SSD first.

My beef with the higher end ASUS models is the asthetics, and weird frame design. I just didn't find it comfortable compared to the MSI.

Originally Posted by JDK

Their all-in-one pc's look pretty cool. I know this is about laptops, but any thoughts on those?

One of the main reasons I'm looking for a laptop is cause I'm using it in an area of the house that doesn't have room for a tower. I have a main desktop somewhere else, which I may be looking to replace soon as well, but the MSI All-In-One PC's look like a nice alternative for the laptop, if they're just as powerful. I notice though that they only come equipped with an i5 processor and only allow for up to 8GB of RAM.

All in ones are often limited hardware wise as you mention, but may save you money if you do not need portability. For higher end Photoshop you can probably get more screen space (20"+) but if you want to go that route I would consider an iMac possibly(barring OS X/Windows photoshop licensing issues.). They have some beautiful screens.

All in all, though, is an i7 in a Desktop at X.X speed will generally be equivilant to the Mobile version (barring cache changes in the lower end), so just find some specs you want in a form factor that fits your needs.

Originally Posted by Hayder_Master

i7qm + SSD + 8G ram + nvidia card
i point for nvidia card cuz photoshop use Nvidia Cuda cores which is makes works on extra size photos 10 times faster than CPU, so forget ATI cards with your work.

False(Sorta. ATi works too!)

Ati cards have had support for a long time, just like Nvidia.

[Hayder_Master]

Originally Posted by Dippyskoodlez

False(Sorta. ATi works too!)

Ati cards have had support for a long time, just like Nvidia.

and it's work high speed as NVIDIA cards do ?

[Dippyskoodlez]

Originally Posted by Hayder_Master

and it's work high speed as NVIDIA cards do ?

Sorry, looks like AMD cards are still Apple only in support, AMD has been jumping the gun with product announcements

CS6 should have windows support though.

Poor windows.

(Basic GPU support works on Nvidia and Ati, but CUDA/OpenCL is Nvidia/Macbook Pro(AMD) only ATM.

[tacosRcool]

So have you decided?