Long Windows Startup Time

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 05:48 PM

The computer is pretty high-spec'd:
-Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
-Core i7-3770
-MSI Z77A-GD65
-4 x 8 GiB DDR3-1600
-Quadro 4000
-2 x Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s in RAID0 on Intel RST

HTML Code:

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    <Data Name="BootEndTime">2012-06-04T11:56:39.302661800Z</Data>
    <Data Name="SystemBootInstance">14</Data>
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    <Data Name="BootTime">82432</Data>
    <Data Name="MainPathBootTime">62832</Data>
    <Data Name="BootKernelInitTime">16</Data>
    <Data Name="BootDriverInitTime">639</Data>
    <Data Name="BootDevicesInitTime">1312</Data>
    <Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">19004</Data>
    <Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">392634368</Data>
    <Data Name="BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
    <Data Name="BootSmssInitTime">5503</Data>
    <Data Name="BootCriticalServicesInitTime">238</Data>
    <Data Name="BootUserProfileProcessingTime">235</Data>
    <Data Name="BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">0</Data>
    <Data Name="BootExplorerInitTime">4500</Data>
    <Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">17</Data>
    <Data Name="BootPostBootTime">19600</Data>
    <Data Name="BootIsRebootAfterInstall">false</Data>
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    <Data Name="BootIsRootCauseIdentified">false</Data>
    <Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">2963</Data>
    <Data Name="BootPNPInitStartTimeMS">16</Data>
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    <Data Name="SessionInitStartTimeMS">38133</Data>
    <Data Name="Session0InitDuration">487</Data>
    <Data Name="Session1InitDuration">148</Data>
    <Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">4867</Data>
    <Data Name="WinLogonStartTimeMS">43636</Data>
    <Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">14460</Data>
    <Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">184</Data>
  </EventData>

OtherKernelInitDuration appears extra long (everything I've seen suggests it shouldn't be over 10 seconds and it is over 35 seconds on every boot. I have no idea what happens during that though so I have no idea what to try.

There is very little software on this computer. I'd be satisfied with a 20 second improvement.

Cold Storm · Jun 4, 2012, 06:02 PM

Everything set in MSconfig to allow for faster boot? Also, is intels "rapid start" driver installed?

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 06:06 PM

From what I've read, Rapid Start only applies to sleep mode. This is cold booting/restarting. Sleep is disabled.

I'll try a minimal boot via msconfig...

Cold Storm · Jun 4, 2012, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

From what I've read, Rapid Start only applies to sleep mode. This is cold booting/restarting. Sleep is disabled.

I'll try a minimal boot via msconfig...

I'm saying the rapid smart due to the factor due to what I read a bit ago on intel's site when looking for a new Z77 board...

Intel's Smart Technology User's Guide

erocker · Jun 4, 2012, 06:15 PM

It's probably something like USB drivers. Try disabling things in the Bios (if possible) to see if the times reduce.

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

I'm saying the rapid smart due to the factor due to what I read a bit ago on intel's site when looking for a new Z77 board...

Intel's Smart Technology User's Guide

I did diagnostic startup and it made no difference. I can't give exact numbers because it disabled event logging too. It was long.

Smart Technology requires an SSD. This doesn't have one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

It's probably something like USB drivers. Try disabling things in the Bios (if possible) to see if the times reduce.

I'll try...

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 06:32 PM

I disabled PCIE Gen3, HPET, IEEE 1394, LAN, and HD Audio. Improvement overall was no more than 5 seconds, OtherKernelInitDuration was still over 35 seconds.

I can't disable USB because that's what the keyboard/mouse run off of. I don't even think it's possible.

I turned that stuff back on because it is kind of important. XD

I don't see anything else I could disable in the BIOS.

Edit: Got an error on that boot: BackgroundPrefetchTime (25964 Deregation Time)

I should note that the moment the computer hits the desktop, it is responsive. I don't think I would want to disable that even if it would mean faster boot times. I still don't think that's the root of the slow boot though.

Cold Storm · Jun 4, 2012, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

I disabled PCIE Gen3, HPET, IEEE 1394, LAN, and HD Audio. Improvement overall was no more than 5 seconds, OtherKernelInitDuration was still over 35 seconds.

I can't disable USB because that's what the keyboard/mouse run off of. I don't even think it's possible.

I turned that stuff back on because it is kind of important. XD

I don't see anything else I could disable in the BIOS.

Edit: Got an error on that boot: BackgroundPrefetchTime (25964 Deregation Time)

Sorry about the rapid smart.. I misread the term on SSD...

Is it a new os?

AsRock · Jun 4, 2012, 06:40 PM

My Maximus mobo was really slow and even more so when IDE was turned on in the bios. My external DVD player can do it some times too.

erixx · Jun 4, 2012, 06:44 PM

Try freeware Soluto, a boot times manager for lazy suds... ...

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 06:47 PM

I tried Soluto and it didn't tell me anything about what was taking forever to boot.

Motherboard has no IDE nor FDD. Two SATA LG BluRay burners are plugged in and a bunch of stuff on USB (mostly hubs). That's about all.

95Viper · Jun 4, 2012, 06:50 PM

Ford, you are on the right track; you might be interested in these links.
I know you like details.

Use Windows 7 Event Viewer to track down issues that cause slower boot times

Windows On/Off Transition Performance Analysis

Quote:

This paper explains the Windows on/off transitions in detail, highlights performance vulnerabilities within each transition, and shows how to identify and analyze these issues by using the Windows Performance Toolkit (WPT). The guidance in this paper can help significantly reduce on/off transition times.

This paper is intended to help original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), independent software vendors (ISVs), independent hardware vendors (IHVs), and systems analysts improve system response times.

This information applies to the following operating systems:
Windows 7
Windows Vista

Microsoft's hidden diagnostic tool unlocks Vista startup secrets

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Is it a new os?

Two OS installs (one about a week ago and again now) with the same slow boot issue. This current install happened about 18 hours ago. It only has Windows 7, Office Professional 2010, some Cyberlink software (for Bluray playback/burning), and CyberPower Power Panel installed. Everything is updated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

Ford, you are on the right track; you might be interested in these links.
I know you like details.

Use Windows 7 Event Viewer to track down issues that cause slower boot times

Windows On/Off Transition Performance Analysis

Microsoft's hidden diagnostic tool unlocks Vista startup secrets

Investigating...

puma99dk| · Jun 4, 2012, 07:01 PM

have u tried bios update of the mb and firmware update of the SSD?

just wondering sometimes they can do magic stuff ^^;

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 07:09 PM

Mobo EFI version is highest available (10.5 I think).

I won't touch the firmware on the Seagate drives. I've heard too many horror stories about them getting bricked via firmware.

Both drives individually passed Seagate's Long Generic test and SMART test.

The RAM survived memtest86 4.0b server 9 passes with 0 errors.

Edit: xbootmgr and xperf are in the Windows SDK:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8279

I don't think it is wise to install that on a client computer that may be delivered in a few hours (just waiting for one part). The document linked did not mention OtherKernelInit once (not even OtherKernel) so even if I bloat the computer, there's no guarentee I'll learn anything from it.

Edit: The download is 408.1 MiB with Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate already installed. I guess I can install it on my computer so I'll have it.

Cold Storm · Jun 4, 2012, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Mobo EFI version is highest available (10.5 I think).

I won't touch the firmware on the Seagate drives. I've heard too many horror stories about them getting bricked via firmware.

Both drives individually passed Seagate's Long Generic test and SMART test.

The RAM survived memtest86 4.0b server 9 passes with 0 errors.

Edit: xbootmgr and xperf are in the Windows SDK:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8279

I don't think it is wise to install that on a client computer that may be delivered in a few hours (just waiting for one part). The document linked did not mention OtherKernelInit once (not even OtherKernel) so even if I bloat the computer, there's no guarentee I'll learn anything from it.

Have you tried a register cleaner yet? I've seen boot times better after the cleaner has done it's job a few times. I've all ways ran ccleaner 3 times after a new install. Also any time windows updates..

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 07:24 PM

Will try, the Windows SDK route isn't feasible...

erocker · Jun 4, 2012, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Two SATA LG BluRay burners are plugged in and a bunch of stuff on USB (mostly hubs).

You tried disabling them and it still took a long time? Since it's some sort of kernel problem (which I have little knowledge on) perhaps, it has to do with the Windows installation itself?

erixx · Jun 4, 2012, 07:57 PM

mamma, usb hubs WILL make boot longer, and Cyberpower would be my next UNinstall, considering how unsmart videocodecs are.

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cold Storm

Have you tried a register cleaner yet? I've seen boot times better after the cleaner has done it's job a few times. I've all ways ran ccleaner 3 times after a new install. Also any time windows updates..

No change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

You tried disabling them and it still took a long time? Since it's some sort of kernel problem (which I have little knowledge on) perhaps, it has to do with the Windows installation itself?

Can't disable USB. I can try unplugging the burners...

Quote:

Originally Posted by erixx

mamma, usb hubs WILL make boot longer, and Cyberpower would be my next UNinstall, considering how unsmart videocodecs are.

CyberPower is critical because it's UPS managment. It was doing it before Office, Cyberlink, and CyberPower software was installed.

The hubs are off of the USB headers (2xUSB2-A, 2xUSB3-A). There isn't any external USB hubs.

95Viper · Jun 4, 2012, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

I don't think it is wise to install that on a client computer that may be delivered in a few hours (just waiting for one part). The document linked did not mention OtherKernelInit once (not even OtherKernel) so even if I bloat the computer, there's no guarentee I'll learn anything from it.

Sorry, I thought it was for a system you were building for yourself and you wanted to reduce your boot time.
Naw, I wouldn't load it on a client.
__________________________________________________ ________________

Try Autoruns for Windows v11.31

I use it regularly to eliminate start-up items, boot items, and other junk or unneeded/unwanted items.

Quote:

This utility, which has the most comprehensive knowledge of auto-starting locations of any startup monitor, shows you what programs are configured to run during system bootup or login, and shows you the entries in the order Windows processes them. These programs include ones in your startup folder, Run, RunOnce, and other Registry keys.

erixx · Jun 4, 2012, 08:14 PM

there is no sorry button but i mistaked cyber link and -power. you for sure noticed but anyway sorry.

If nothing improves, I fear hardware errors... -or virus infection...- HW Errors could be an unreliable SATA cable that makes hardware detection on bootup taking forever... Take a brand new cable for your boot HDD and do not connect anything else...

baggpipes · Jun 4, 2012, 08:23 PM

Superfetch loading that memory? So much memory...

FordGT90Concept · Jun 4, 2012, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

You tried disabling them and it still took a long time? Since it's some sort of kernel problem (which I have little knowledge on) perhaps, it has to do with the Windows installation itself?

BluRay drives made no difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95Viper

Try Autoruns for Windows v11.31

I use it regularly to eliminate start-up items, boot items, and other junk or unneeded/unwanted items.

All those registry entries have been triple checked and all the junk software removed from boot (namely, CyberLink). It has to look deeper than the obvious in order to yeild any results on this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erixx

If nothing improves, I fear hardware errors... -or virus infection...- HW Errors could be an unreliable SATA cable that makes hardware detection on bootup taking forever... Take a brand new cable for your boot HDD and do not connect anything else...

The UEFI BIOS boot very fast and everything that should be detected is detected.

There's more likely to be flies on the moon than a virus on this computer (it did it before the LAN driver was installed).

All cables are brand new.

Quote:

Originally Posted by baggpipes

Superfetch loading that memory? So much memory...

Code:

<Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">392634368</Data>

392 MB...
You'd think that would only be about 4 seconds...
Oh:

Code:

<Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">19004</Data>

19 seconds total. According to my computer, that's actually pretty quick.

Has anyone else ran Windows via the EFI: Windows Boot Manager? That's what is very unique to this system and maybe what is causing the delay.

Laurijan · Jun 4, 2012, 08:40 PM

Maybe your rig just need 35sec... Try Win8 - I have been told it much faster in boot. Or get a SSD.

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Jun 4, 2012, 06:06 PM	#3
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Jun 4, 2012, 06:47 PM	#11
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Jun 4, 2012, 07:09 PM	#15
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,655 (6.23/day) Thanks: 1,788 Thanked 2,634 Times in 1,987 Posts System Specs	Mobo EFI version is highest available (10.5 I think). I won't touch the firmware on the Seagate drives. I've heard too many horror stories about them getting bricked via firmware. Both drives individually passed Seagate's Long Generic test and SMART test. The RAM survived memtest86 4.0b server 9 passes with 0 errors. Edit: xbootmgr and xperf are in the Windows SDK: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=8279 I don't think it is wise to install that on a client computer that may be delivered in a few hours (just waiting for one part). The document linked did not mention OtherKernelInit once (not even OtherKernel) so even if I bloat the computer, there's no guarentee I'll learn anything from it. Edit: The download is 408.1 MiB with Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate already installed. I guess I can install it on my computer so I'll have it. __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); } Last edited by FordGT90Concept; Jun 4, 2012 at 07:22 PM.

Jun 4, 2012, 07:24 PM	#17
FordGT90Concept "I go fast!1!11!1!" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: IA, USA Posts: 10,655 (6.23/day) Thanks: 1,788 Thanked 2,634 Times in 1,987 Posts System Specs	Will try, the Windows SDK route isn't feasible... __________________ Golden Rule of Programming: Never assume. try { SteamDownload(); } catch (Steamception ex) { RageQuit(); }

Jun 4, 2012, 07:57 PM	#19
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,243 (1.90/day) Thanks: 725 Thanked 325 Times in 260 Posts System Specs	mamma, usb hubs WILL make boot longer, and Cyberpower would be my next UNinstall, considering how unsmart videocodecs are.

Jun 4, 2012, 08:14 PM	#22
erixx Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Moorsoldaten barracks Posts: 2,243 (1.90/day) Thanks: 725 Thanked 325 Times in 260 Posts System Specs	there is no sorry button but i mistaked cyber link and -power. you for sure noticed but anyway sorry. If nothing improves, I fear hardware errors... -or virus infection...- HW Errors could be an unreliable SATA cable that makes hardware detection on bootup taking forever... Take a brand new cable for your boot HDD and do not connect anything else...

Jun 4, 2012, 08:23 PM	#23
baggpipes Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 161 (0.10/day) Thanks: 32 Thanked 45 Times in 28 Posts System Specs	Superfetch loading that memory? So much memory...

System Name:	R2D2
Processor:	AMD FX-4100
Motherboard:	MSI 970 G45
Cooling:	Stock
Memory:	Kingston T1 8GB 1600 DDR3 @ 1800mHz
Video Card:	AMD Sapphire 6850
Hard Disk:	RAID 0 WD Caviar Blue 1TB total
Optical Drive:	Lite-On DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	Acer 19" widescreen and Sony 32" Bravia 1080p 60hz
Case:	NZXT Gamma Series
PSU:	700w OCZ Mod Stream Pro
Software:	Windows 7 Professional
Benchmarks:	hit 4.5ghz stock cooler....

Jun 4, 2012, 08:40 PM	#25
Laurijan Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oulu, Finland Posts: 1,935 (0.83/day) Thanks: 270 Thanked 352 Times in 282 Posts System Specs	Maybe your rig just need 35sec... Try Win8 - I have been told it much faster in boot. Or get a SSD. __________________ If you want to quit smoking tobacco this is a must see: ☆☆☆The Electronic-Cigarette Club☆☆☆ @ GN.net Laurijan´s Heat My worldwide sales thread

System Name:	Enslaver :)
Processor:	Intel i5 3570K Ivy Bridge
Motherboard:	ASRock Z77 Extreme4
Cooling:	CPU: Noctua NH-D14, Case: 4x12cm Noctua
Memory:	8GB DDR3 Samsung 30nm MV-3V4G3
Video Card:	ASUS GTX560Ti DirectCUII TOP 1GB
Hard Disk:	OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD for OS, Seagte internal 500GB Download-cache, Seagate external 2TB for Media
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD-RW/RAM, LG DVD-RW/RAM
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung UE40D6200 Full-HD 3D LED LCD TV
Case:	Antec P182, Gunmetal Black Edition
Sound Card:	Razer Barracuda AC-1 soundcard, Logitech Z-5450 5.1 speakers
PSU:	Termaltake Thoughpower 750W, Cable management
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64

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