Need some help overclocking Phenom II 1055T - Page 5

brandonwh64 · Jun 8, 2012, 03:06 PM

That generic ram sounds like its not liking the clocks, Have you tried setting ram to 1066mhz CAS9 1.65V then OC the cpu?

El_Mayo · Jun 8, 2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Sounds like IMC aka CPU nb. Give it a touch of volts on that and cores. Should be set from there.

Will do right now

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

That generic ram sounds like its not liking the clocks, Have you tried setting ram to 1066mhz CAS9 1.65V then OC the cpu?

Oh I've got this RAM, need to update my spec right now actually
So I don't think it's the RAM

brandonwh64 · Jun 8, 2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Mayo

Will do right now

Oh I've got this RAM, need to update my spec right now actually
So I don't think it's the RAM

Oh ok yea its not the ram then. What is your ram speed at right now?

JrRacinFan · Jun 8, 2012, 03:24 PM

Yeah I'm really thinking the IMC is hating those sticks. Should have went 4x2GB 1.65v sticks instead. Something that's more apt to take voltage.

brandonwh64 · Jun 8, 2012, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Yeah I'm really thinking the IMC is hating those sticks. Should have went 4x2GB 1.65v sticks instead. Something that's more apt to take voltage.

Jr is right, these sticks like sandy bridge too much. AMD has not had good luck with them since AMD setups like higher voltages

JrRacinFan · Jun 8, 2012, 03:27 PM

When talking the Phenom II(Deneb & Thuban) Dram voltage does more than you think with them. Not only does it help stabilize the dram it does help the IMC a touch as well.

El_Mayo · Jun 8, 2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

When talking the Phenom II(Deneb & Thuban) Dram voltage does more than you think with them. Not only does it help stabilize the dram it does help the IMC a touch as well.

I'll try bumping the DRAM voltage

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Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Jr is right, these sticks like sandy bridge too much. AMD has not had good luck with them since AMD setups like higher voltages

It's booting with 8-8-8-24 and a 0.025V bump in both the CPU voltage and the NB voltage
It's running prime95 so far, but it's crashing with winamp when I play music. Songs just randomly stop playing and all I hear now is what sounds like scratching/interference :/
Chrome pages are crashing as well now. That's weird. All workers still running on prime, but I'm getting all sorts of glitches

Aquinus · Jun 8, 2012, 05:25 PM

Your generic memory might not be handling the higher clocks very well. How does 8-9-8-26 handle for you at the same frequency? I might even recommend trying to go as high at 9-9-9-28 just to see how it behaves and if stability gets any better. If not, it may not be the IMC/Memory. What voltage are you running on the CPU?

El_Mayo · Jun 8, 2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquinus

Your generic memory might not be handling the higher clocks very well. How does 8-9-8-26 handle for you at the same frequency? I might even recommend trying to go as high at 9-9-9-28 just to see how it behaves and if stability gets any better. If not, it may not be the IMC/Memory. What voltage are you running on the CPU?

My current settings are 8-8-8-24
+0.025 on the CPU NB
1.55V on the DRAM voltage
+0.050V on the CPU voltage (1.225V)

Gonna try and run prime95 now

fullinfusion · Jun 8, 2012, 06:58 PM

for shits and giggles try clearing the bios and re-flash it and see if that helps.

I had similar problems a while back and turned out the bios was bad.

El_Mayo · Jun 8, 2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by fullinfusion

for shits and giggles try clearing the bios and re-flash it and see if that helps.

I had similar problems a while back and turned out the bios was bad.

reflash? as do you mean like remove the battery and put it back in? I could try that. I'll have to write down all my settings first

suraswami · Jun 8, 2012, 08:14 PM

sometimes when windows crashes due to OC failure, it keeps repeating for no reason.

Only way to find out if those apps are working ok is to set all settings to default in Bios and test if those apps bsod.

fullinfusion · Jun 8, 2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Mayo

reflash? as do you mean like remove the battery and put it back in? I could try that. I'll have to write down all my settings first

Yes remove the battery and jump the CMOS on the board with the jumper, After about letting it sit for a couple of min then reverse everything and grab your bios of the manufactures site and Flash the bios again.
*edit* dont forget to switch the PSU's power off while shorting out the bios

El_Mayo · Jun 8, 2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fullinfusion

Yes remove the battery and jump the CMOS on the board with the jumper, After about letting it sit for a couple of min then reverse everything and grab your bios of the manufactures site and Flash the bios again.
*edit* dont forget to switch the PSU's power off while shorting out the bios

I think I've flashed the bios before, you just download it and run the program in windows right?
I'll try this tomorrow and report back

For now I'm gonna play GTA IV (unless I crash lol)

JrRacinFan · Jun 9, 2012, 01:18 AM

Don't bother flashing the bios.

El_Mayo · Jun 9, 2012, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Don't bother flashing the bios.

Oh okay lol
I'm still trying to get stability at 250
I ran prime for 10 minutes just then, but Prime95 crashed. Not the computer, as in a blue screen, JUST prime95. strange

El_Mayo · Jun 9, 2012, 09:28 AM

These are the settings that keep failing on me
Now I look at them, I think it might be to do with the Row Cycle Time, as I haven't increased that one in a while. I went from 7-7-7-21-26 to 8-8-8-24-26

Aquinus · Jun 9, 2012, 09:57 AM

Bus overclocks might need a PLL voltage bump. I would try bumping the CPU PLL to 2.6v or 2.7v. You're CPU voltage is also pretty low, moving towards 1.3v should be fairly safe, just watch temperatures.

_ALB_R3D X · Jun 9, 2012, 10:08 AM

CPU NB Frequency is a bit higher than usual or I'm remembering it wrong...
Try upping CPU NB VID Control to 1.2

JrRacinFan · Jun 9, 2012, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquinus

You're CPU voltage is also pretty low, moving towards 1.3v should be fairly safe, just watch temperatures.

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Originally Posted by _ALB_R3D X

Try upping CPU NB VID Control to 1.2

Agreed. 2.7v PLL 1.325 core and 1.25v cpu nb.

El_Mayo · Jun 9, 2012, 09:22 PM

I've tried every settings suggested so far at once, so it HAS to work now

well except the CPU voltage one, and the PLL voltage (it doesn't go higher than 2.59V) I'm at 58 degrees NOW so this is really pushing it (62 is the max I believe?)

El_Mayo · Jun 10, 2012, 12:27 AM

Awww man I had it running up to 56 minutes then I absent mindedly pressed "sleep"
and I THINK you're supposed to run Prime continuously, but I think it should be stable by now

El_Mayo · Jun 10, 2012, 03:35 PM

Coming up to 2 hours on Prime95 now, this has gotta be stable?
59 degrees max temps

JrRacinFan · Jun 10, 2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Mayo

Coming up to 2 hours on Prime95 now, this has gotta be stable?
59 degrees max temps

Check your fan configuration in HW monitor in bios. Seems quite high for so near to stock voltage. But yeah sounds fine to me. I would just enjoy it and keep her there.

El_Mayo · Jun 10, 2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Check your fan configuration in HW monitor in bios. Seems quite high for so near to stock voltage. But yeah sounds fine to me. I would just enjoy it and keep her there.

I'm only at 1.264V as well!
Is this normal?

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