Microsoft Announces Surface: New Family of PCs for Windows - Page 2

rainwilds · Jun 19, 2012, 09:05 AM

Very nice. I have been waiting for a tablet with keyboard like interface with Windows 8. Very cool indeed.

St.Alia-Of-The-Knife · Jun 19, 2012, 12:15 PM

MS surface, the new Zune

TheMailMan78 · Jun 19, 2012, 12:39 PM

Does this have the potential to beat the iPad? Yes. Will it beat the iPad? No.

Soylent Joe · Jun 19, 2012, 12:53 PM

I hope they also do a 7-inch version with the ARM processor and Windows RT. That would be perfect.

Scrizz · Jun 19, 2012, 01:27 PM

I want one just b/c

imitation · Jun 19, 2012, 01:34 PM

Does anyone else have the feeling that these (esp. the RT variant) will be locked down enough to be totally unuseable? "Secure" Boot, Microsoft-Appstore-only, etc... ?

johnnyfiive · Jun 19, 2012, 02:45 PM

C Sharp developers rejoice! Now you have another reason (aside from Mango and Apollo) to start developing applications on Microsoft platforms. This is an exciting release! I'll definitely be interested in checking one out and possibly purchasing one.

XNine · Jun 19, 2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

Wow, I'm shocked Microsoft would enter the market with their own hardware. OEMs aren't going to be happy.

A product to compete with other tablets on the market and a desktop replacement, nice!

I wonder if this has anything to do with MS denying HTC hardware rights for Windows 8 Tablets?

cadaveca · Jun 19, 2012, 05:17 PM

Let me know when I can take my pc game, and have the video stream to this, and the input from this, wirelessly within my home LAN.

Heck, I want to play XBOX360 games on my Digital cable box. Oh wait...

Totally · Jun 19, 2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RejZoR

Erm, hasn't ASUS already "invented" this with their modular Transformer tablets that you can attach a keyboard to them and turn them into PC or a notebook?

Asus did not invent the detachable keyboard, it was just the most recent, before this.

FordGT90Concept · Jun 19, 2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DannibusX

They haven't been "just a software company" since 2001.

I was semi quoting the CNN Money article:

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Still, it's a radical shift for the world's largest software company.

Yeah, they're a little off the mark. Zune is effectively the same thing but minaturized and Microsoft is the only company that sells Zunes.

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Originally Posted by NdMk2o1o

$1000 for a tablet PC????

I really hope not, like the look of the pro, if it's going to be that expensive can't see it being a success.

That's what Windows 7 tablet PCs run for now.

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Originally Posted by XNine

I wonder if this has anything to do with MS denying HTC hardware rights for Windows 8 Tablets?

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/361903...indows-8-party

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Microsoft has reportedly excluded HTC Corp. from its list of Windows 8/RT product development party. Citing HTC’s lack of experience in developing tablet computers and that the Taiwan hardware vendor is not selling enough devices, the software giant barred HTC from joining the high-tech industry’s latest jab at removing Apple from the top of the tablet totem pole.

dwade · Jun 19, 2012, 06:04 PM

I believe this is the future of computing. Add in a Thunderbolt port and plug in a high end GPU for serious graphics power. Now, I'm really agreeing with those who said the consoles will die. This is the concept in which consoles will eventually become: Xbox Mobile. Not only that, but as a PC replacement in the near future as well. The aforementioned Thunderbolt EGPU along with upcoming Intel CPUs that put ARM's turtle speed CPU to rest for a real desktop experience in a tablet form factor... until then.

Drone · Jun 19, 2012, 06:21 PM

I see Surface as another flop by MS. People either buy ultrabooks or they buy ipads. I don't believe this thing's gonna be ipad killer.

Static~Charge · Jun 19, 2012, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DannibusX

They haven't been "just a software company" since 2001.

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

I was semi quoting the CNN Money article

The writer at CNN Money should do a little basic research before opening his mouth....

Ravenas · Jun 19, 2012, 06:53 PM

This will not beat the iPad.

The Surface will be as successful as the Zune. The Zune has been axed by Microsoft, this will be as well.

FordGT90Concept · Jun 19, 2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

This will not beat the iPad.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge. That CNN Money article I linked to was by far the hottest page on CNN Money last time I checked. There is a lot of interest in it.

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

The Surface will be as successful as the Zune. The Zune has been axed by Microsoft, this will be as well.

The Zune was axed because Windows Phone 7 completely replaced it. Why would people buy a $200 Zune HD when they could get a Nokia Lumia 900 for $100 with contract? It's shocking Apple hasn't ended the iPod and iPod Nano yet.

trickson · Jun 19, 2012, 07:13 PM

I hope this puts Apple in it's place once and for all! Great job MS! A tad late IMHO and seems like nothing more than a copy cat/Johnny come lately thing. But if MS can price this under or at the apple ipad offering then this could be a game changer.

Ravenas · Jun 19, 2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FordGT90Concept

I wouldn't be so quick to judge. That CNN Money article I linked to was by far the hottest page on CNN Money last time I checked. There is a lot of interest in it.

The Zune was axed because Windows Phone 7 completely replaced it. Why would people buy a $200 Zune HD when they could get a Nokia Lumia 900 for $100 with contract? It's shocking Apple hasn't ended the iPod and iPod Nano yet.

Lol the windows 7 phone sucks.

Furthermore Nokia, the company manufacturing the phone, is going down the shitter. They just axed 20% of the labor. The Windows 7 phone will be another failure.

The only reason the Xbox 360 still exists is because Apple and Google allow it to.

Avelict · Jun 19, 2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Lol the windows 7 phone sucks.

Furthermore Nokia, the company manufacturing the phone, is going down the shitter. They just axed 20% of the labor. The Windows 7 phone will be another failure.

The only reason the Xbox 360 still exists is because Apple and Google allow it to.

Lol imagine if Apple decided to design their own console >.>

With their budget they'd be shipping consoles with 680's in 'em.

FordGT90Concept · Jun 19, 2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Lol the windows 7 phone sucks.

It does not.

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

Furthermore Nokia, the company manufacturing the phone, is going down the shitter. They just axed 20% of the labor. The Windows 7 phone will be another failure.

I blame stupid consumers (pay much more for an iPhone 4S and get less):
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...119293310.html

Nokia's hands are tied when they only ship 2 million units compared to Apple's 35 million units. Nokia is fighting a monopoly. I suggest watching the video at the bottom of this link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1595599.html

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

The only reason the Xbox 360 still exists is because Apple and Google allow it to.

Xbox 360's primary competitor is Sony's PlayStation 3. What does that have to do with Apple and Google?

TheMailMan78 · Jun 19, 2012, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenas

This will not beat the iPad.

The Surface will be as successful as the Zune. The Zune has been axed by Microsoft, this will be as well.

The Zune was an entertainment novelty. This has a real business application to it. Thats something the Zune never had. Will it be as big as the ipad? No. But this isnt even close to being another Zune.

trickson · Jun 19, 2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The Zune was an entertainment novelty. This has a real business application to it. Thats something the Zune never had. Will it be as big as the ipad? No. But this isnt even close to being another Zune.

The only reason it will not be as big as the iPad is because it is a Johnny come lately product. If MS wants this to beat Apple then it will have to make sure the price is right!

FordGT90Concept · Jun 19, 2012, 08:25 PM

5 ways Microsoft's Surface may be better than an iPad (keyboard, size, power, USB ports, Xbox SmartGlass)

cadaveca · Jun 19, 2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trickson

The only reason it will not be as big as the iPad is because it is a Johnny come lately product. If MS wants this to beat Apple then it will have to make sure the price is right!

Not really. This is just one peice of a much larger vision for home media and entertaintment that Microsoft envisioned years ago. This, and all the tech featured in it, is really nothing new, at all, or "Johnny-come-lately" as you so bluntly put it.

I don't think Microsoft is trying to beat Apple. They are trying to provide something much different than what Apple has in mind, I think.

Hilux SSRG · Jun 19, 2012, 08:42 PM

I think this has a good shot of getting a chunk of [Apple's] marketshare and edging out Samsung.

Not everyone wants to be in Apple's garden prison. This seems to be more business-friendly.

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Jun 19, 2012, 09:05 AM	#26
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