[SLI] GTX 670 Windforce or DCU II ?

crush56 · Jun 16, 2012, 03:11 PM

Hi everyone,
I will soon change my 4890 vapor-x and make a sli system with two gtx 670.
But it's so hard to choose beetwin the Windforce and DCU Ii models.

What cards would you take ?
Thanks

Ps : Sorry for my english i'm french

radrok · Jun 16, 2012, 03:43 PM

I'd pick the DCII they are very praised among the community opposed to the Windforce which I yet have to see a positive review about.

The DCII got a full 10 on TPU http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A..._Cu_II/33.html, that's something to tell

crush56 · Jun 16, 2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radrok

I'd pick the DCII they are very praised among the community opposed to the Windforce which I yet have to see a positive review about.

The DCII got a full 10 on TPU http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A..._Cu_II/33.html, that's something to tell

Thanks, i think i'm going to pick the dcu II

james888 · Jun 16, 2012, 06:39 PM

He has two posts....
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A..._Direct_Cu_II/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/G...dforce/33.html

Both have a great reviews from techpowerup. Note that this review of the asus is the top model

crush56 · Jun 16, 2012, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james888

He has two posts....
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A..._Direct_Cu_II/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/G...dforce/33.html

Both have a great reviews from techpowerup. Note that this review of the asus is the top model

The DCU ii Top model is the same as the dcu ii but overclocked right ?

puma99dk| · Jun 16, 2012, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crush56

The DCU ii Top model is the same as the dcu ii but overclocked right ?

yap they r the same card the DCU2 and DCU2 Top card same pcb, same cooler just highere clocks if i am not wrong ^^

crush56 · Jun 16, 2012, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by puma99dk|

yap they r the same card the DCU2 and DCU2 Top card same pcb, same cooler just highere clocks if i am not wrong ^^

Okay thanks

I just bought it

james888 · Jun 17, 2012, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crush56

Okay thanks

I just bought it

Make sure to tell us about it

crush56 · Jun 17, 2012, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james888

Make sure to tell us about it

I'll do

manofthem · Jun 17, 2012, 06:50 PM

I've read several reports of the dc II top cards having problems and having to be RMA'd due to instability at high default clocks, while the dc II didn't have the issues, supposedly because of lower clocks. Has any one heard and/or confirmed this?

the54thvoid · Jun 17, 2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manofthem

I've read several reports of the dc II top cards having problems and having to be RMA'd due to instability at high default clocks, while the dc II didn't have the issues, supposedly because of lower clocks. Has any one heard and/or confirmed this?

You ought to link that sort of stuff.

manofthem · Jun 17, 2012, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

You ought to link that sort of stuff.

Why? I'm asking if anyone has come across this or confirmed this themselves. I read a few threads about this a bit ago, and I just thought of it while reading this thread. But anyway, off I go to find the threads I was talking about. ..

Here we are:
People say it in this thread, which is not the thread I originally read
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1698555

And several reports under Newegg's reviews
ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit ...

james888 · Jun 17, 2012, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manofthem

Why? I'm asking if anyone has come across this or confirmed this themselves. I read a few threads about this a bit ago, and I just thought of it while reading this thread. But anyway, off I go to find the threads I was talking about. ..

Here we are:
People say it in this thread, which is not the thread I originally read
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1698555

And several reports under Newegg's reviews
ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit ...

They are discussing it here too.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...=165758&page=8

the54thvoid · Jun 17, 2012, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manofthem

And several reports under Newegg's reviews
ASUS GTX670-DC2T-2GD5 GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit ...

That's a shocking number of unsatisfied consumers and what looks like a very poorly binned chip for the OC purpose of the TOP card.

There was a mention on another site by it's owner (can't remember where

) that suggested there was a rumour going around reviewer sites that the review samples of the GK104 chips were all cherry picked.

It ties in with the continuing poor availability of a decent supply of GTX 680 cards which in itself is linked to an issue with it's design. Don't get me wrong, you'll have no problem buying a 680 now but the plethora of models is still greatly out of stock.

Makes you think, is there a problem with GK104?

radrok · Jun 17, 2012, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the54thvoid

That's a shocking number of unsatisfied consumers and what looks like a very poorly binned chip for the OC purpose of the TOP card.

There was a mention on another site by it's owner (can't remember where

) that suggested there was a rumour going around reviewer sites that the review samples of the GK104 chips were all cherry picked.

It ties in with the continuing poor availability of a decent supply of GTX 680 cards which in itself is linked to an issue with it's design. Don't get me wrong, you'll have no problem buying a 680 now but the plethora of models is still greatly out of stock.

Makes you think, is there a problem with GK104?

As far as I know EVGA and MSI are cherry picking their GK104 chips for the Classified and Lightnining respectively, I have read that some of the best chips can do 1400Mhz with unlocked voltage that will be given with these 2 samples.

I think that they got loads of substandard GK104 chips that are going into locked voltage SKUs.

Anyway the worst case scenario is that you get a leaky chip on a voltage locked VGA, that'd be terrible.

Quote:

1440mhz using stock air cooler and enhanced voltage, with more volts and beefier pwm, most kepler gpus are 1400 capable

1400+ MHz on air is SICK, bring on the voltage control

source http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1832

bpgt64 · Jun 17, 2012, 11:09 PM

I have a ppair of Windforce cards, and I love them. They overclock well, however you do need to be weary of the built in turbo mode. Meaning if your goal is 1200mhz, turbo does like...80mhz so you OC to 1120, and let turbo do the rest. Here are my benchmarks so far..

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=135908

crush56 · Jun 20, 2012, 08:41 AM

My two cards are now installed, everything work but there is a problem with performances.
The sli is activated and skyrim turn arnoud 30/40 fps

Battlefield 3, 45/80 average fps in multiplyaererin gulf of oman.
It's a little bit low for these types of card, no ?

timma · Jun 20, 2012, 08:59 AM

buy gigabyte GTX 670 OC windforce +1

silapakorn · Jun 20, 2012, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crush56

My two cards are now installed, everything work but there is a problem with performances.
The sli is activated and skyrim turn arnoud 30/40 fps

Battlefield 3, 45/80 average fps in multiplyaererin gulf of oman.
It's a little bit low for these types of card, no ?

Try the new beta driver.

crush56 · Jun 20, 2012, 11:42 AM

I have the lastest drivers

chrislue · Jun 23, 2012, 06:02 PM

I have the same question and I bought both of the card asus and gigabyte to see which is better,
but I still do not have decision yet.

So far, this is what I've seen. I roughly use Heaven DX11 Benchmark 3.0 to test card stability, although asus factory clock is higher, but seems both can not adjust to 1200 boost, the benchmark will just crash. So I just run them at 1150, but the actual boost clock which can be seen in software, asus is higher, about 1280, gigabyte about 1200.

About temperature, gigabyte is much better in heavy load like Heaven Benchmark. I get about highest 72c. Asus goes up to 87c. In idle, them do not have much difference, around 30c. The fan noise gigabyte is a bit louder and have some special sound like "didididi" but if you control the fan speed below 35%, you can barely hear it, at the same time control temperature well.

mypg0306 · Jul 5, 2012, 10:30 AM

Go for Gigabyte GTX670 OC Windforce

Jun 16, 2012, 03:11 PM	#1
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crush56 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7 (0.02/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My two cards are now installed, everything work but there is a problem with performances. The sli is activated and skyrim turn arnoud 30/40 fps Battlefield 3, 45/80 average fps in multiplyaererin gulf of oman. It's a little bit low for these types of card, no ?

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crush56 Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7 (0.02/day) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have the lastest drivers

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chrislue Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3 (0.01/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I have the same question and I bought both of the card asus and gigabyte to see which is better, but I still do not have decision yet. So far, this is what I've seen. I roughly use Heaven DX11 Benchmark 3.0 to test card stability, although asus factory clock is higher, but seems both can not adjust to 1200 boost, the benchmark will just crash. So I just run them at 1150, but the actual boost clock which can be seen in software, asus is higher, about 1280, gigabyte about 1200. About temperature, gigabyte is much better in heavy load like Heaven Benchmark. I get about highest 72c. Asus goes up to 87c. In idle, them do not have much difference, around 30c. The fan noise gigabyte is a bit louder and have some special sound like "didididi" but if you control the fan speed below 35%, you can barely hear it, at the same time control temperature well.

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