Desktop works, but unusable.

NeotonicDragon3 · Jun 21, 2012, 02:25 AM

So..This is a weird thing that happened to my recently first build.
Specs for lazy people who don't want to click on the specs thingy
Processor: AMD A4-3400
Memory: Patriot Sector Five 8GB DDR3-1333mHz
Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6570
Harddrives:

160GB Western Digital Caviar SATA II
80GB Western Digital Caviar SATA II
1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA II

Monitor: Dell E176FP
Powersupply: "High Quality" 550W

So I went to go use my computer this morning it kept on turning off the display [put the monitor in standby] and then randomly turn on and go into a boot loop.
So I told it to do a Automatic Restore [Windows 8 [8400]]..When I came back from work, I powered it on. Then I noticed there was no BIOS screen either, just monitor in standby.
It worked perfectly last night. Here are the Things I attempted to help

Tested with VGA, HDMI, and DVI
jumped the CMOS thingy.
Turned off the system for awhile with the power cable out
Took out the cards out of my motherboard
Tried plugging it to the motherboard VGA.

Any Ideas?

Widjaja · Jun 21, 2012, 02:28 AM

Remove all peripherals besides mouse/keyboard, remove one stick of ram and try booting.

NeotonicDragon3 · Jun 21, 2012, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widjaja

Remove all peripherals besides mouse/keyboard, remove one stick of ram and try booting.

I did, but still nothing on the monitor.
I really hope it isn't my new graphics card :\
I wonder if my HDD have anything to do with this.

Widjaja · Jun 21, 2012, 03:46 AM

Sometimes things like faulty HDDs can do this which is a good reason to try running the system with only a stick of RAM mouse keyboard and graphics card attached.

Could try even removing the graphics card and booting via onboard.
Also try booting with the other stick of RAM if you have not done so.

Always a pain when you don't have another backup rig to test hardware on.

Frag Maniac · Jun 21, 2012, 04:24 AM

I had a problem recently where W7 would boot to desktop and I could move the cursor but not click anything. When I moved the cursor over the taskbar I just got the wait swirl indefinitely. Safe Mode did work though. What fixed it is selecting "Last known good configuration", and it's been fine since.

CaptainFailcon · Jun 21, 2012, 04:48 AM

no error beeps on post ?
check all the cables

NeotonicDragon3 · Jun 21, 2012, 06:02 AM

I'm using Windows 8, I never installed the Case Speaker lol
Maybe I should try removing a harddrive or something.
I wish I did have a 2nd Rig to test on lol

CaptainFailcon · Jun 21, 2012, 06:03 AM

install a speaker so you can at least get a beep code -.-

NeotonicDragon3 · Jun 21, 2012, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainFailcon

install a speaker so you can at least get a beep code -.-

I lost it lol

CaptainFailcon · Jun 21, 2012, 06:10 AM

so hook a headphone to the speaker pins -.- its either that or replace the board blindly

karolpl2004 · Jun 21, 2012, 06:53 AM

yea u need a speaker so you can get some or any beep codes. after that remove all RAM. power on the unit and if no beeps then u got a dead board. any other pattern, consult with the manual.

NeotonicDragon3 · Jun 22, 2012, 03:49 AM

I found the speaker... It only gave 1 beep

Mussels · Jun 22, 2012, 04:15 AM

sounds like graphics card or PSU

did you forget any of the power plugs from the PSU to the mobo/video card? (one could have been loose the first time, and have fallen out)

NeotonicDragon3 · Jun 22, 2012, 05:11 AM

I got it working... I don't know what I did xD

Kantastic · Jun 22, 2012, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeotonicDragon3

I got it working... I don't know what I did xD

I think Mussels once said that if you get it working without knowing what you did, just thank the computer god.

Mussels · Jun 22, 2012, 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kantastic

I think Mussels once said that if you get it working without knowing what you did, just thank the computer god.

all hail robo-jesus!

edit: the actual story was that my brother thinks stuffs broken when it really isnt, so when i fix it in 10 seconds flat (say, plugging it into the power) i just claim i've got the jesus touch.

Frag Maniac · Jun 22, 2012, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeotonicDragon3

I'm using Windows 8...

If you're referring to my successful fix of the problem I described with W7 using Last known good config, it doubt it matters that you're on 8. MS has better built-in reboot options ever since W7. I would think that would carry over to W8. It's worth a shot if you can get to the screen that has that option.

Jun 21, 2012, 02:25 AM	#1
NeotonicDragon3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 209 (0.11/day) Thanks: 111 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts System Specs	Desktop works, but unusable. So..This is a weird thing that happened to my recently first build. Specs for lazy people who don't want to click on the specs thingy Processor: AMD A4-3400 Memory: Patriot Sector Five 8GB DDR3-1333mHz Graphics Card: AMD Radeon HD 6570 Harddrives: 160GB Western Digital Caviar SATA II 80GB Western Digital Caviar SATA II 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black SATA II Monitor: Dell E176FP Powersupply: "High Quality" 550W So I went to go use my computer this morning it kept on turning off the display [put the monitor in standby] and then randomly turn on and go into a boot loop. So I told it to do a Automatic Restore [Windows 8 [8400]]..When I came back from work, I powered it on. Then I noticed there was no BIOS screen either, just monitor in standby. It worked perfectly last night. Here are the Things I attempted to help Tested with VGA, HDMI, and DVI jumped the CMOS thingy. Turned off the system for awhile with the power cable out Took out the cards out of my motherboard Tried plugging it to the motherboard VGA. Any Ideas? __________________ ılı.------Volume------.ılı. ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ █ Min- - - - - - - - - - -●Max ► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop

System Name:	Colourwheel
Processor:	AMD A8-3870K Black Edition (3.0 GHz Quad core)
Motherboard:	Gigabyte A75M-D2H
Cooling:	Coloured Fans lol and Cooler Masters Vortex Plus
Memory:	Patriot Sector 5 8GB DD3-1333
Video Card:	ASUS Radeon HD 6570 [1GB DDR3 ][4874 Shared]
Hard Disk:	2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB \| 2TB Western Digital Caviar Green
Optical Drive:	LiteOn DVD Multi-drive
CRT/LCD Model:	22" LG Flatron IPS226V + 22" LG Flatron E2242
Case:	Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
Sound Card:	X-Fi XtremeGamer Edition
PSU:	Antec Earthwatts 650W
Software:	Windows 8 Pro (64-Bit)

System Name:	Darth Obsidious
Processor:	Intel i5 2500K
Motherboard:	ASUS P8Z68-V/Gen3
Cooling:	Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push Pull
Memory:	2X4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
Video Card:	ASUS HD7870 Direct CU II
Hard Disk:	128GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Green
Optical Drive:	ASUS BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-ray Combo
CRT/LCD Model:	LG IPS234V-PN
Case:	Corsair Obsidian 650D
Sound Card:	Infrasonic Quartet
PSU:	Corsair HX650w
Software:	Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP Home
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System Name:	Colourwheel
Processor:	AMD A8-3870K Black Edition (3.0 GHz Quad core)
Motherboard:	Gigabyte A75M-D2H
Cooling:	Coloured Fans lol and Cooler Masters Vortex Plus
Memory:	Patriot Sector 5 8GB DD3-1333
Video Card:	ASUS Radeon HD 6570 [1GB DDR3 ][4874 Shared]
Hard Disk:	2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB \| 2TB Western Digital Caviar Green
Optical Drive:	LiteOn DVD Multi-drive
CRT/LCD Model:	22" LG Flatron IPS226V + 22" LG Flatron E2242
Case:	Cooler Master 430 Black Elite
Sound Card:	X-Fi XtremeGamer Edition
PSU:	Antec Earthwatts 650W
Software:	Windows 8 Pro (64-Bit)

System Name:	Darth Obsidious
Processor:	Intel i5 2500K
Motherboard:	ASUS P8Z68-V/Gen3
Cooling:	Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push Pull
Memory:	2X4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
Video Card:	ASUS HD7870 Direct CU II
Hard Disk:	128GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Green
Optical Drive:	ASUS BC-12B1ST 12X Blu-ray Combo
CRT/LCD Model:	LG IPS234V-PN
Case:	Corsair Obsidian 650D
Sound Card:	Infrasonic Quartet
PSU:	Corsair HX650w
Software:	Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP Home
Benchmarks:	2cm mark on bench with a razor blade.

Jun 21, 2012, 02:28 AM	#2
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,023 (1.85/day) Thanks: 241 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	Remove all peripherals besides mouse/keyboard, remove one stick of ram and try booting.

Jun 21, 2012, 03:46 AM	#4
Widjaja Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Wangas, New Zealand Posts: 4,023 (1.85/day) Thanks: 241 Thanked 617 Times in 534 Posts System Specs	Sometimes things like faulty HDDs can do this which is a good reason to try running the system with only a stick of RAM mouse keyboard and graphics card attached. Could try even removing the graphics card and booting via onboard. Also try booting with the other stick of RAM if you have not done so. Always a pain when you don't have another backup rig to test hardware on.

Jun 21, 2012, 04:24 AM	#5
Frag Maniac Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,435 (1.55/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 243 Times in 210 Posts System Specs	I had a problem recently where W7 would boot to desktop and I could move the cursor but not click anything. When I moved the cursor over the taskbar I just got the wait swirl indefinitely. Safe Mode did work though. What fixed it is selecting "Last known good configuration", and it's been fine since.

Processor:	Intel i7 950 @ 3.2GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS P6X58D-E
Cooling:	Corsair H50 push/pull
Memory:	Kingston HyperX 1600 6GB
Video Card:	Sapphire HD 7970 OC @ 1000 Core
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Optical Drive:	ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
CRT/LCD Model:	Panasonic TC-L32U3
Case:	Antec DF-85
Sound Card:	Yamaha RX-V371 AVR
PSU:	XFX 850w Black Edition
Software:	W7 Ultimate 64 bit

Jun 21, 2012, 04:48 AM	#6
CaptainFailcon Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 193 (0.49/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	no error beeps on post ? check all the cables

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Motherboard:	ASRock Z77 Extreme4
Cooling:	Hyper 212+ Custom
Memory:	8GB Samsung 22NM @ 2000Mhz 10-9-10-11
Video Card:	Geforce GTX 560448
Hard Disk:	x1 SSD
Optical Drive:	n/a
CRT/LCD Model:	22inch
Case:	NZXT gamma
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Jun 21, 2012, 06:02 AM	#7
NeotonicDragon3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 209 (0.11/day) Thanks: 111 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts System Specs	I'm using Windows 8, I never installed the Case Speaker lol Maybe I should try removing a harddrive or something. I wish I did have a 2nd Rig to test on lol __________________ ılı.------Volume------.ılı. ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ █ Min- - - - - - - - - - -●Max ► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop

Jun 21, 2012, 06:03 AM	#8
CaptainFailcon Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 193 (0.49/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	install a speaker so you can at least get a beep code -.-

Jun 21, 2012, 06:10 AM	#10
CaptainFailcon Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 193 (0.49/day) Thanks: 12 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	so hook a headphone to the speaker pins -.- its either that or replace the board blindly

Jun 21, 2012, 06:53 AM	#11
karolpl2004 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 441 (0.16/day) Thanks: 16 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts System Specs	yea u need a speaker so you can get some or any beep codes. after that remove all RAM. power on the unit and if no beeps then u got a dead board. any other pattern, consult with the manual. __________________ [img disabled]http://card.mygamercard.net/earthbound741.png[/img]

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Jun 22, 2012, 03:49 AM	#12
NeotonicDragon3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 209 (0.11/day) Thanks: 111 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts System Specs	I found the speaker... It only gave 1 beep __________________ ılı.------Volume------.ılı. ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ █ Min- - - - - - - - - - -●Max ► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop Last edited by NeotonicDragon3; Jun 22, 2012 at 04:01 AM.

Jun 22, 2012, 04:15 AM	#13
Mussels Doctor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bendigo, Australia (NOT THE USA) Posts: 34,559 (10.96/day) Thanks: 3,700 Thanked 8,693 Times in 6,392 Posts System Specs	sounds like graphics card or PSU did you forget any of the power plugs from the PSU to the mobo/video card? (one could have been loose the first time, and have fallen out) __________________ Edumacational thread about PC Audio My external HDD's.5x samsung 1TB + 2x Seagate 1.5TB = 8 TB external storage 32 Bit OS vs 64 bit OS information How to get hardware accelerated H264 playback (DXVA) Netbook Owners United!

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Jun 22, 2012, 05:11 AM	#14
NeotonicDragon3 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Arizona Posts: 209 (0.11/day) Thanks: 111 Thanked 45 Times in 23 Posts System Specs	I got it working... I don't know what I did xD __________________ ılı.------Volume------.ılı. ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ ▄ █ ▄ █ ▄ █ Min- - - - - - - - - - -●Max ► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop

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