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Old Jun 28, 2012, 06:49 AM   #2451
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The worst part is that b-bucks can not be transfer to paypal/buy anything meaningful which mean it will go back to AH eventually wear down to near zero by the 15% fee.
it will wear down to 0 with the 1$ fee
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Holy day of drops batman!
so first that hammer a page back drops,
then I got a 1000dps two hander,
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what should I price it at 20mil starting, 50milbin?

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Old Jun 28, 2012, 11:46 AM   #2453
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Holy day of drops batman!
so first that hammer a page back drops,
then I got a 1000dps two hander,
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what should I price it at 20mil starting, 50milbin?
http://img.techpowerup.org/120628/ammy187.jpg
Um, nice. I'd put that sucker on the RMAH and turn Diablo into a free2play game
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4th of July sale for Newegg has Diablo III for $49.99
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Urlyin and I were playing last night and came to the conclusion this game has gotten stupid. I don't regret buying it as I have 70+ hours in it. Worth the money for sure. But the longevity of this verses say BF3 just isn't there. This game is a new cash cow for Blizzard. Its a money maker first and a game second. Unless they patch out the stupidity in this game Ill be uninstalling it very soon.
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i like the idea of playing new characters and getting replayability there, but hitting a dead end in inferno with every character seems lame.
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Seems like inferno is meant to be played more like an MMO raid, with a group of mixed class characters of varying skills and abilities.
This would explain why TMM and Urlyin (both barbs) have a stupidly hard time.

That also doesn't do anything for people who want to solo it.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 02:18 PM   #2458
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Me... I'm still at 25 on my DH... It'll be ages before I hit that wall.. But, yes, if I had time to spend, I'd be mad.. But, I believe Kreij is right... Feel it's more of a raid then anything else..
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I haven't played any other classes than my monk to high level.
My monk can heal fairly well, but he has to be very close to the other characters to affect their health levels.
Is there any class that has healing ability that is not so range limited?
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 04:15 PM   #2460
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I haven't played any other classes than my monk to high level.
My monk can heal fairly well, but he has to be very close to the other characters to affect their health levels.
Is there any class that has healing ability that is not so range limited?
Only thing that even comes close is the barb skill that drops more health globes. So pretty much no, you are the best healer in the game....
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 04:32 PM   #2461
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My wd has 1 skill that drops a token which heals all party members around it for 5% hp and a few useless ones which drop health globes with an extremely low chance.
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Only thing that even comes close is the barb skill that drops more health globes. So pretty much no, you are the best healer in the game....
Hmm ... I think you guys should treat us with more respect then

I will say this, inferno is definitely challenging.
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Old Jun 28, 2012, 05:30 PM   #2463
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My Wizz loves a good Monk tank. I play melee wizzard so I'm usually right in the middle of it, so most Monk abilities help me a great deal.

Breath of Heaven - Blazing wrath or Circle of Life.
Serenity - Tranquil - Nice for getting me out of CC situations.
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Mantra Healing - ToN, Boon, Body.

Any of those are great party help.


Also - NEW HOT FIX.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6214...6_13_2012#blog

Seems to be pretty nice. Although I am sure we will get more i63 drops, don't expect their rolls to be any better.
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4th of July sale for Newegg has Diablo III for $49.99
Ahhhhhh I've been waiting for this sale I knew it was going to happen and my home internet just broke!!! I'm going to try and use my phone I also have newehg gift cards to use!
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Ahhhhhh I've been waiting for this sale I knew it was going to happen and my home internet just broke!!! I'm going to try and use my phone I also have newehg gift cards to use!
EDIT: Crap sorry for the double post I thought I clicked edit and not Quote

Home internet just started working! I think i got a good deal

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Old Jun 28, 2012, 08:00 PM   #2466
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Went ahead and embraced the mainstream scene. Took the DH craze plunge. Its not that good imo. Youd hurt your wrist from kiting frequently with the standard glass cannon build. Has a bunch of other interesting builds though.. like that infinite ballista / pet crit and that tank build.



Also noticed they have cheap 900+ weapons. Just got a 950 dps xbow with 65% crit for 50k lol.
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Ah, read the best reaction to the RMAH on P-A.
So, as those who have mostly left the bulding already, Diablo 3’s Real Money Auction House is double mysterious and we don’t know what it’s for. Well, okay: we know know. The “moneys.” What I’m saying is that getting new shit actually is the game. For us, anyway. Getting and, crucially, equipping new loot. The whole AH thing short-circuits the entire idea: the game is, functionally speaking, a pinata. Right? Obviously, you could just go buy candy at the store. It’s not about having candy. It’s about getting candy.

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No one is required to use the RMAH. It's there if you want to buy/sell in real money. No more, no less.

If it's all about "getting the candy", then why do people globally spend millions of dollars a day purchasing virtual items for a whole slew of games from 3rd party sites?
Doesn't that "short circuit" all of the games?
Seems that since Bilzzard incorporated it into their game, they are now the bad guys or something.
The statment seems quite disingenuous since they appear to be targetting Blizzard for wanting a piece of the multi-billion dollar industry of selling virtual good, but not anyone else.


As far as the GAH goes, I seem to have about as much luck selling items as I do beating a pack of elites in inferno when soloing.
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And it's not like people weren't selling, trading, and buying gold in D1 & D2. Blizz got smart and made it a part of their system instead of allowing all these 3rd parties. Although those still exist it is however much safer for a user to purchase off the AH.
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I don't use the RMAH, but the fact that if you don't specify that you want the money transfered out at the time you post the auction, it is forever stuck in you battle.net wallet (or whatever it's called) makes me wonder.

Let's say you sold $5000 worth of virtual goods and there is not $5000 worth of goods you can use it for from Blizzard.
What then if you have no way of retrieving your money? Once someone payed you for the item (minus fees), it's technically your money.
That has to be walking a fine line on what's legal in the U.S.
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I don't use the RMAH, but the fact that if you don't specify that you want the money transfered out at the time you post the auction, it is forever stuck in you battle.net wallet (or whatever it's called) makes me wonder.

Let's say you sold $5000 worth of virtual goods and there is not $5000 worth of goods you can use it for from Blizzard.
What then if you have no way of retrieving your money? Once someone payed you for the item (minus fees), it's technically your money.
That has to be walking a fine line on what's legal in the U.S.
You can link it to a pay pal account also. You don't HAVE to use Battle.net.
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Only thing you can do in that instance is sell everything for gold, then sell the gold 3rd party for cash.
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You can link it to a pay pal account also. You don't HAVE to use Battle.net.
I know that, but Blizzard is basically acting like a bank without any of the regulations that are imposed on the banking industry.

A few years ago the people who sold pre-paid cash cards put an expiration date on them. This was deemed illegal as it was your money and they had to change that policy.
If your battle.net account has more money in it than you can use for Blizzard products, they are basically sitting on your money, making interest and not giving you any, and not giving you an option to retrieve it.

Like I said, I was just wondering. I think this could be contested in court and it would be interesting to see the outcome.
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battle.net currency is basically like another in game currency. Like Maplestory has NX, RumbleFighter has astros etc. They just call it battle.net balance. The advantage is that with DIII, they are making a way to take it out as well
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I know what you are saying, N, but there is nothing "in-game" about the currency that gets transacted through the RMAH. The items are in-game, the money is not.
Yes, they have it set up so you can transfer the money to Paypal (or whatever), but only if specify that option up front for the auction (at least that is my understand from what people have posted here). Is that perfectly clear to people? It seems not as people thought they could transfer their balance to Paypay and that's not the case.

It's kind of like if e-bay said you can sell stuff here, but unless you tell us otherwise, and pay a transfer fee, all the money you make can only be used to buy e-bay sponsored items.

I was just pondering whether there may be litigation brought against Blizzard (or anyone else with a RMAH) in the future.

Anyway .... I'm still having a lot of fun in the game and even though it gets frustrating sometimes, I'll keep playing. Now if only people would buy my crap in the GAH ....
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