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Old Jul 13, 2012, 02:37 PM   #2726
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You apparently don't understand what Blizzard has done with the mechanics. Ignorance is bliss I guess. The game FORCES you to use the auction house. The auction house effects the drops. This is a ploy to push more revenue to Blizzard. Now they added gold to the auction house too? You have to be blind to not see where this is going.
wait you have to buy shit from the auction house to get better MF rates?
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wait you have to buy shit from the auction house to get better MF rates?
No, but the auction house is part of the game, and is a legitimate source of gear, if you can afford the cost.

Blizzard has taken steps to ensure the economy in the Auction house remains stable. I'm sure they'll be monitoring how gold sales affect things, and adjust accordingly. Like perhaps gold will drop less now, just like everything else.

MF only affect wehther you get blue/gold/legendary, rather than white/blue. I got some good MF gear, and get pretty good looking drops, colour-wise, but never any good gear. Using normal gear, I seemingly tend to actually find better stats on the stuff i pick up..but that could just be luck of the draw.
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Wow, That damage with that low Intelligence?

Can I see y our complete gear and build?

I have 2075 intel, using a 1 handed staff, 950dps, 331 intel, max arcane by 14, 1.4 speed, and a not bad off-source, doing 36k :S , I'm full of IAS since I use shock pulse, but on act 3 I can't take ghom alone, with 600 all res (removed the 35% life hit for 40% all res).

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Notice my Crit Chance, Crit Damage and IAS, pretty much where most of my damage comes from. My normal gear I run closer to 40% crit chance, but had to swap an item for Allres. I play a melee wizard. Crit-Mass, Evoker, Blur/Glass Cannon.

I usually don't run that exact build I beat diablo with, the only difference is exp.blast/chain reaction or Slow Time instead of hydra because diablo doesn't like to stand and fight, always running around, so I couldn't stay close enough to him all the time to keep chain reaction spamming. Once I slotted hydra it was fairly easy.

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MF only affect wehther you get blue/gold/legendary, rather than white/blue. I got some good MF gear, and get pretty good looking drops, colour-wise, but never any good gear. Using normal gear, I seemingly tend to actually find better stats on the stuff i pick up..but that could just be luck of the draw.
Nope, it actually does far more then that.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guid...ent#magic-find - Basically MF is used for every aspect of the item roll, not just changing its class from magic.rare.legendary.

By good MF gear, do you mean above 200 w/o NV?
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Gohm is a bitch, a dirty farting frustrating bitch. I have to wear my shield which puts me over 1600 AllRes and lowers DPS. He was without a doubt one the hardest bosses and is a TOTAL gear check. So yeah 1K allres required to pass.
Interesting, well putting a shield on isn't an option for me, it actually lowers my survive-ability. I'll just have to keep tacking on LoH and Res till I can stand in those farts. Next goal is upgrading my 101 LoH ring to 250 - 300 LohH and my 476 LoH neck to a 600 - 650 LoH, that'll get me near 2500, beyond that I'm not sure theres much more LoH I can get unless I find Gem patterns.
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Nope, it actually does far more then that.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guid...ent#magic-find - Basically MF is used for every aspect of the item roll, not just changing its class from magic.rare.legendary.

By good MF gear, do you mean above 200 w/o NV?
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Which is basically what I said. I wasn't specific on what designates quality, but oh well.



I'm not sureo n the specific stats, but I was getting about 3x the number of "quality" items compared to others I was playing with when playing solo. I found a few legendaries pretty easily...crappy ones, but whatever. They said they were going to work on ledgendary item quality.
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Interesting, well putting a shield on isn't an option for me, it actually lowers my survive-ability. I'll just have to keep tacking on LoH and Res till I can stand in those farts. Next goal is upgrading my 101 LoH ring to 250 - 300 LohH and my 476 LoH neck to a 600 - 650 LoH, that'll get me near 2500, beyond that I'm not sure theres much more LoH I can get unless I find Gem patterns.
Yeah right now +500 LoH Gem is 7m.

I really hope Blizz doesn't decide to nerf Whirl Wind Barbs, so many people have invested millions in that build.


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Which is basically what I said. I wasn't specific on what designates quality, but oh well.
yeah you were on the right track. I just wanted to point out that it does far more then just determine blue,yellow,legendary.

Once the item type has been rolled MF also increases the chances for affixes, and then increases the roll chances on those specific affixes.

MF does a lot more then most people think, and that is blizz's fault for not posting what MF does. Blizz actually just posted that information two days ago.
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Yeah right now +500 LoH Gem is 7m.




yeah you were on the right track. I just wanted to point out that it does far more then just determine blue,yellow,legendary.

Once the item type has been rolled MF also increases the chances for affixes, and then increases the roll chances on those specific affixes.

MF does a lot more then most people think, and that is blizz's fault for not posting what MF does. Blizz actually just posted that information two days ago.
Yeah, I knew about it working on the affixes...things that affect item drop i did spend a fair bit of time looking into, since the drops I get are all seemingly crap. Finding REALLY good stuff is hard, decent stuff there is not much issue with MF added in with NV, so much so that white end up almost being as uncommon as a rare is at the beginning of playing. I think they went decently indepth into item drop rates when they discussed NV.

Legendaries, on the other hand, are super-hard to get, and it's even more rare that they are good, even when browsing through the auction house.
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Notice my Crit Chance, Crit Damage and IAS, pretty much where most of my damage comes from. My normal gear I run closer to 40% crit chance, but had to swap an item for Allres. I play a melee wizard. Crit-Mass, Evoker, Blur/Glass Cannon.

I usually don't run that exact build I beat diablo with, the only difference is exp.blast/chain reaction or Slow Time instead of hydra because diablo doesn't like to stand and fight, always running around, so I couldn't stay close enough to him all the time to keep chain reaction spamming. Once I slotted hydra it was fairly easy.

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Nope, it actually does far more then that.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/guid...ent#magic-find - Basically MF is used for every aspect of the item roll, not just changing its class from magic.rare.legendary.

By good MF gear, do you mean above 200 w/o NV?


I guess I should give a try. Right now I'm "poor" with my 2 millions, but I guess I should get more res at least close to 500 without the 40%..

I just can't kill ghom alone Inferno and I am having high damage bu no crit.
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I guess I should give a try. Right now I'm "poor" with my 2 millions, but I guess I should get more res at least close to 500 without the 40%..

I just can't kill ghom alone Inferno and I am having high damage bu no crit.
Like I mentioned. Ghom is a gear check and you won't beat him until you have probably 600 base allres and then run Prismatic Armor, also a good amount of armor. It is very hard to play a kite wiz against him. Normally you can usually run away and heal a little, in that cramped room filled with fart gas there is no where to run.
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Yeah and umm, the gaz dissapear ? or not? In video I see it dissapear, mine doesn't or I doN't stand enought long, and he throw always that gaz on me lol.

600 all ress base, without the 40%, I guess I'll have to change a couple of item

I know i have like 400 dext because of item, I'll try to find something else than vit. I have 25k life right now. 36k damage, with no crit, using shock pulse, arcane orb, hydra venom (maybe should I change to arcane) Diamond skin, tele + fracture, and the prismatic armor.

I'm going to look at all this by the week-end, needs to leave Toronto 2day, work is finish here, going back home in Montreal. I will have a long night playing D3 I think
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Yeah and umm, the gaz dissapear ? or not? In video I see it dissapear, mine doesn't or I doN't stand enought long, and he throw always that gaz on me lol.

600 all ress base, without the 40%, I guess I'll have to change a couple of item

I know i have like 400 dext because of item, I'll try to find something else than vit. I have 25k life right now. 36k damage, with no crit, using shock pulse, arcane orb, hydra venom (maybe should I change to arcane) Diamond skin, tele + fracture, and the prismatic armor.

I'm going to look at all this by the week-end, needs to leave Toronto 2day, work is finish here, going back home in Montreal. I will have a long night playing D3 I think
It does dissipate and if you can get ghom to follow you in a circle, slowly, you can kite him that way. Not easy to do though.

You could also hire me to do it. lol. say 250k. I'll give you the TPU discount for 10%. 225K.
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Yeah right now +500 LoH Gem is 7m.

I really hope Blizz doesn't decide to nerf Whirl Wind Barbs, so many people have invested millions in that build.
I don't think they will, discussed it with a few friends. The builds not an OP build, it plays kind of tanky (no burst damage at all), just doesn't run a shield. I stopped playing my Barb because I was unhappy with him in Inferno, Act 1 was ok (even before patch), but it could have been better. I just refuse to use a shield, it's not how I envision a Barb. And if they somehow nerf the build, I just return him to his unplayed state (which will make me sad). Also if they ever release PvP, this builds going to be horrible As it sits right now it's really the only viable non-shield build, so unless their goal is to have 100% of Barbs forced to use a shield, I don't see the point in nerfing the build.

Personally though, I am not a big fan of the original build, it's clunky and works good if everything goes perfect. I changed out a few things for much better Fury management and it made the build much more live-able.
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There has been a nasty auction house exploit doing the rounds today and I have held off posting about it assuming that it would be sorted pretty quickly. Last time I looked into this which was a few hours ago there was still a problem so I thought I had better bring this to your attention as TJP over at the AB confirmed it was still active quite recently. Blizzard shut down the original thread about this on the official boards pretty quickly this afternoon.

With some crafty HEX editing, some people have managed to mess with the auction house UI and system time to enable them to get hold of an item for the starting value and not the buyout value by switching the buttons around. Not having tested this myself, I am not quite sure if it has been fixed now, but it is real and it is a rather nasty exploit. I hope it’s sorted now because it has been doing the rounds for well over half a day.
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Played some D3 today with asrock. Can't help but feel disappointed when i play the game now. The random monster affixes that just aren't fun (shielding, jailer, waller, basically things that prevent you from moving or harming things), the impossibility of finding anything that's an upgrade without just selling a ton of stuff in and hoarding gold for a long time.

When I play and don't find anything I feel I have completely wasted my time because I gained no experience and a minimal amount of gold.

Overall the experience has just become disappointing.
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Played some D3 today with asrock. Can't help but feel disappointed when i play the game now. The random monster affixes that just aren't fun (shielding, jailer, waller, basically things that prevent you from moving or harming things), the impossibility of finding anything that's an upgrade without just selling a ton of stuff in and hoarding gold for a long time.

When I play and don't find anything I feel I have completely wasted my time because I gained no experience and a minimal amount of gold.

Overall the experience has just become disappointing.
As with anything, it gets boring being on the top. You have nothing to gain by staying there, and people enjoy gaining things.
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As with anything, it gets boring being on the top. You have nothing to gain by staying there, and people enjoy gaining things.
At least in D2 i could level. Anything to make it feel like i'm not wasting time
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At least in D2 i could level. Anything to make it feel like i'm not wasting time
Thats all it is though, just to make you feel like your not wasting time. To me that got boring, it's all on a personal level. Just like I don't even feel unlocks are necessary in shooters, it's too much of an RPG element. I think every weapon should be unlocked from the get go, just login and have fun. But so many people were not happy in BC2 when they hit like Rank 26 felt the game was boring because they didn't get shiny new guns appearing on their screen, so now theres unlocks for everyone!
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