Old Server rig

Bo$$ · Jul 21, 2012, 01:26 AM

I aquired this older rack mounted server from my dads workplace. It has been lying un-used for 3 years and discovered it today...

It is equiped with Dual 5050 Xeons with 1 stick of 2gb per CPU.
It is fitted with a Super Micro-x7dvl-e motherboard and a 250Watt server PSU.

I've tried to get it running today with some minor sucess, it spins up, but alas no video display.... Now i have no idea what is wrong with it. my dad tells me it was working when he removed it.

It hasn't been tampered with since removal, since i broke the factory seals yesterday....

So what is wrong with it? Can i plug a normal ATX PSU into it? any other steps needed as i've never dealt with a server before....

Please ask for more info it is late at night here and i've been in better levels of conscienceness

Radical_Edward · Jul 21, 2012, 01:50 AM

I bet the cmos battery is dead. I'm sure that's not helping.

OneMoar · Jul 21, 2012, 02:38 AM

http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...0v/x7dvl-e.cfm
note the bit about recommending a 500wat psu
a normal desktop psu should be fine

Bo$$ · Jul 21, 2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical_Edward

I bet the cmos battery is dead. I'm sure that's not helping.

I tried that, no difference

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneMoar

http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...0v/x7dvl-e.cfm
note the bit about recommending a 500wat psu
a normal desktop psu should be fine

thanks!

Ill swap it out later and post back

Bo$$ · Jul 21, 2012, 02:13 PM

nope still no post... is it possible for it to be configured to show no video??

Morgoth · Jul 21, 2012, 02:26 PM

try plugin in a gpu into it

Aquinus · Jul 21, 2012, 02:53 PM

Servers take a while to go through the BIOS and to POST. How long are you waiting because I have an old Dell PowerEdge 1850 with two of these: http://ark.intel.com/products/28015/...he-800-MHz-FSB and it takes a couple minutes to start booting the OS, but typically after 10 seconds it starts posting.

Bo$$ · Jul 21, 2012, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus

Servers take a while to go through the BIOS and to POST. How long are you waiting because I have an old Dell PowerEdge 1850 with two of these: http://ark.intel.com/products/28015/...he-800-MHz-FSB and it takes a couple minutes to start booting the OS, but typically after 10 seconds it starts posting.

well first few times i left it on for a good 10 mins before i gave up, Approximately how long are we talking? 5mins or 20mins?

So far the task is to get it to post (not bothered by OS yet), will it work without a PS2 keyboard and mouse?

Also i cannot get a PCI video card for a reasonable price

thank you i will try it again with the time aspect in mind

Aquinus · Jul 21, 2012, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo$$

well first few times i left it on for a good 10 mins before i gave up, Approximately how long are we talking? 5mins or 20mins?

Plugged into a display? It should start giving BIOS post output within 20 seconds of being turned on. Passing through all the BIOS and OPROMs will take up to 5-10 minutes. Servers are a little harder to diagnose. I recommend removing all but 1 stick of memory and removing one of the processors (the slave CPU,) and seeing if it boots with that. Any add-on card (PCI-e, PCI-X, or PCI,) shouldn't matter. If it isn't posting there is a problem. Also your PSU should be providing enough power. The 1850 I have uses dual redunant 350-watt PSUs and can run with only one connected. I suspect either a CPU or the memory may be faulty, but I don't think we have enough information to jump to that conclusion. I take it that when you start it you don't get any beeps or anything?

Morgoth · Jul 21, 2012, 07:42 PM

get mybe a voodoo 5 or any thing around that era of pci gpu sould't cost more then 10 usd

Bo$$ · Jul 21, 2012, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus

Plugged into a display? It should start giving BIOS post output within 20 seconds of being turned on. Passing through all the BIOS and OPROMs will take up to 5-10 minutes. Servers are a little harder to diagnose. I recommend removing all but 1 stick of memory and removing one of the processors (the slave CPU,) and seeing if it boots with that. Any add-on card (PCI-e, PCI-X, or PCI,) shouldn't matter. If it isn't posting there is a problem. Also your PSU should be providing enough power. The 1850 I have uses dual redunant 350-watt PSUs and can run with only one connected. I suspect either a CPU or the memory may be faulty, but I don't think we have enough information to jump to that conclusion. I take it that when you start it you don't get any beeps or anything?

lol, i did plug into a display with the onboard graphics

Im using an 850watt PSU and it's stock one is 250 watts.

Well when i start the PC I get a single beep after i press the power button, after that nothing. this occurs if i remove all the ram aswell....

I've taken out the the second CPU and still nothing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgoth

get mybe a voodoo 5 or any thing around that era of pci gpu sould't cost more then 10 usd

LoL i just saw a Voodoo 5 selling for £26, im asking around i think i have a friend with one near me

Aquinus · Jul 21, 2012, 10:55 PM

What do the POST LED code say? I ripped this from the manual off SuperMicro's site.

Edit: Here, a link to the manual might help.

Bo$$ · Jul 21, 2012, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus

What do the POST LED code say? I ripped this from the manual off SuperMicro's site.
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/at...1&d=1342911332

Edit: Here, a link to the manual might help.

jesus how could i miss that ¬.¬ I think i recall both being on.... I'll reseat those CPU's

Thank you!!!

Aquinus · Jul 22, 2012, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo$$

jesus how could i miss that ¬.¬ I think i recall both being on.... I'll reseat those CPU's

Thank you!!!

No problem, let us know how it goes.

Bo$$ · Jul 22, 2012, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquinus

No problem, let us know how it goes.

Bah! socket 1 is fried... No boot if i use that one.... I think i might buy a cheap quad and use that if the price is right...

how does a E5335 compare with the E5050 i have now??

brandonwh64 · Jul 22, 2012, 04:19 PM

Maybe the ram for that CPU socket is bad. Also I dunno if those 65nm 771 CPU's are worth a high price?

Bo$$ · Jul 22, 2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Maybe the ram for that CPU socket is bad. Also I dunno if those 65nm 771 CPU's are worth a high price?

No, the Pc is detecting all 4gb and it's running win 7 right now... i think i'll just get a more powerful quad core if i can, i think they are like £25 but my question is, how much faster is a E5310 (£15) or E5345 (£25) than the current E5050?

OneMoar · Jul 22, 2012, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo$$

Bah! socket 1 is fried... No boot if i use that one.... I think i might buy a cheap quad and use that if the price is right...

how does a E5335 compare with the E5050 i have now??

did you inspect it for bent pins ?

Bo$$ · Jul 22, 2012, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneMoar

did you inspect it for bent pins ?

yes, it is perfect not a soul of of place... The machine hasn't been opened until yesterday... It was last working 3 years ago and has been sitting in the boot of a BMW E46 for all the time....

I might try a bios update, although i am doubtful

yogurt_21 · Jul 23, 2012, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo$$

No, the Pc is detecting all 4gb and it's running win 7 right now... i think i'll just get a more powerful quad core if i can, i think they are like £25 but my question is, how much faster is a E5310 (£15) or E5345 (£25) than the current E5050?

depends on what you're using it for, essentially you're asking if a lower clocked quad core will be faster than a faster clocked dual core.

so in the end what do you want to do with this server?

Bo$$ · Jul 23, 2012, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogurt_21

depends on what you're using it for, essentially you're asking if a lower clocked quad core will be faster than a faster clocked dual core.

so in the end what do you want to do with this server?

well im doing mainly server hosting along with ocassional network rendering. I just want another opinion before i go do it

Doc41 · Aug 2, 2012, 02:58 PM

Don't know if it helps but found this: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_look...10+%40+1.60GHz you can find the E5345 above
Also
Xeon 5050:http://ark.intel.com/products/27210/...Hz-667-MHz-FSB)
Xeon E5310:http://ark.intel.com/products/28030/...z-1066-MHz-FSB)
Xeon E5345:http://ark.intel.com/products/28032/...z-1333-MHz-FSB)
That said both the E5310 and E5345 are of the same family "Clovertown" (65 nm) and are more powerful than the 5050, and because the E5345 has higher clocks it beats the E5310

It's up to you, want more power get the E5345 or if you don't want to spend more get the E5310(and maybe overclock it??? i don't have much knowledge in servers )

Jul 21, 2012, 01:26 AM	#1
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Jul 21, 2012, 01:50 AM	#2
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Bo$$ Join Date: May 2009 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,670 (2.49/day) Thanks: 444 Thanked 770 Times in 679 Posts System Specs	nope still no post... is it possible for it to be configured to show no video?? __________________ Live in the UK? Join the UK TPU Group! Caution! This is Sparta! Im Looking For... Im Selling

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