Diablo III Clubhouse

[Outback Bronze]

Originally Posted by ZenZimZaliben

Had a good game last night. Found my first set item...of course it is for a monk. Also sold a 2h xbow I found in act 3. 2H, 1275 DPS, socket, 140 Dex - Sold for 90m!

Hmmm got any spare cash??

[Mindweaver]

I finally got my wizard to lvl 60! So, who should I play with next?

[Ross211]

Originally Posted by Mindweaver

I finally got my wizard to lvl 60! So, who should I play with next?

I'd suggest going with a melee class. A barb or a monk. It's a nice change of pace from kiting and trying to hide plus you have more survivability.

You can go melee with wiz but you will likely need to reinvest in a whole new robe for your char. Plus melee wiz is only effective until about act 3 unless you have some very godly gear for it. Not worth it IMO.

[ZenZimZaliben]

Originally Posted by Mindweaver

I finally got my wizard to lvl 60! So, who should I play with next?

Getting to 60 is only half the battle. Now beat inferno. Unless you did...which then your goal could be to make money so you can support other alts.

Originally Posted by Outback Bronze

Hmmm got any spare cash??

So what's the vig on this action?

Originally Posted by Ross211

You can go melee with wiz but you will likely need to reinvest in a whole new robe for your char. Plus melee wiz is only effective until about act 3 unless you have some very godly gear for it. Not worth it IMO.

The investment part is true, although not 100's of millions, maybe 10m-20m. But the last part is not true. I have no more issues in Act 4 as a melee wiz then when I play a kite wiz.

[alucard13mmfmj]

i used the wizard exploit a few days ago to get godmode. before, i was doing act 1 and act 2 inferno runs with little to no luck in getting upgrades or things to sell.

i used the exploit and farmed act 3 and 4. i spent hours and hours farming. guess what? crap loot. its just so depressing.

a lot of wizards that used the exploit feel bummed out. a lot of them are stuck in act 1/2 and they hope to get to act 3/4 to get awesome loot. even with god mode, they got bad loot.

im playing melee wiz and it melts monsters and elitse that my kiting wiz cant. however, there are elites that my kiting wiz can kill that my melee wiz has a hard time killing.

only monsters my kiting wiz cant kill are fast ones.

monsters that my melee wiz cant kill are the ones that run away or shield themselves UNLESS those same elitse had something like illusion. melee wiz is truly invincible if you are in a big mob, but have a harder time killing single/smaller groups.

[digibucc]

Originally Posted by alucard13mmfmj

a lot of wizards that used the exploit feel bummed out. .... they got bad loot.

lol

[lyndonguitar]

Originally Posted by alucard13mmfmj

a lot of wizards that used the exploit feel bummed out. a lot of them are stuck in act 1/2 and they hope to get to act 3/4 to get awesome loot. even with god mode, they got bad loot.

I farm Act 3 with friends and I get great loots from time to time, even without using MF gear swapping.

Now I tried that exploit and played Whole Act III to Act IV wearing full MF gear, I invited my non-inferno capable friend barb and asked him to wear a full MF gear also and just teleport to me when elites are about to die, guess what, crap loot. At least my friend got 2 items that sold for 1m total. which still sucked.

Originally Posted by alucard13mmfmj

im playing melee wiz and it melts monsters and elitse that my kiting wiz cant. however, there are elites that my kiting wiz can kill that my melee wiz has a hard time killing.

Im playing a melee wiz too(crit mass with frost nova) when farming Act 3 to 4 and I agree, hate those elites that are "kiting" heroes. its not a problem though once frost nova hits them

[Delta6326]

Just beat D3 on normal mode...That was so boring it took me forever. Over 40 hours(25h was Guest pass) The whole story was predictable and not very interesting, time to work my way to inferno then finally do what I wanted too Farm loot which is now not worth it.

lol I had way more fun playing Guest pass over and over(15+) then the whole story.

[1Kurgan1]

Now it's come to bashing the storyline... I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to say you are drunk. Many things about the game can be bashed, but the storyline just isn't one of them. The conflict in the heavens, the twist in the storyline (you really seen that coming?). The storyline was pretty epic, just like the other 2 games. Gah this thread is depressing, no ends to what people will complain about.

[CJCerny]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Now it's come to bashing the storyline... I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to say you are drunk. Many things about the game can be bashed, but the storyline just isn't one of them. The conflict in the heavens, the twist in the storyline (you really seen that coming?). The storyline was pretty epic, just like the other 2 games. Gah this thread is depressing, no ends to what people will complain about.

Agreed...hypocrisy is awesome. "I just spent 7000 hours playing this game and I hated every moment of it!"

[Cold Storm]

Blah... I just want to have the time to play the game... I all ways feel this... the cry babies are the ones that don't have anything better to do... IMHO.

[AlienIsGOD]

i would just like to make enough off of the RMAH to buy Mists so i dont have to spend real $$ on it.

[digibucc]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Gah this thread is depressing, no ends to what people will complain about.

honestly i find it depressing how strongly you guys defend it. either it needs the defense and you are proving that or it doesn't and you're wasting your time. either way with a game of this popularity there is simply no way you are not going to hear complaining, some will be baseless and some accurate, just like every other game.now that being said, I can not believe you have nothing negative to say about the game. you've played it since release but don't have a single thing to complain about? that just doesn't seem possible.

So we either get people like me, who are disappointed and can't bring themselves to enjoy the game for what it is - and then people like you who defend every thing about it whether it deserves defense or not. neither us are giving our full thoughts because we both are trying to prove a point: either it's good or bad. but just because you have chosen to like it overall, doesn't mean there aren't problems, and doesn't mean people aren't right in their assessment. the same works in reverse of course - just because i don't like it overall doesn't mean it didn't do things right.

i'm sorry cj ... i got less than 50 hours from the game, and imho less than 300 in a diablo game is unacceptable. i don't see how that is hypocritical - i think you need to address the actual arguments and not just straw-men. if you got more hours i'm happy for you - but don't act as though i should be happy with what i got. i didn't get the hours that a diablo game should give, and the hours i did get were simply not as enjoyable as they should have been.

so now the argument becomes: how realistic were my expectations? of course i believe they were realistic, you may not: however that is opinion. i can just as easily believe that you are too easily satisfied, that doesn't make either of us right or wrong.so in the end it is entirely a matter of opinion, and for you to act as though yours is the only valid opinion i think is disingenuous. no ends to what people complain about? i see no end to people defending a game that imho doesn't deserve it. now THAT is depressing.

[ChristTheGreat]

Just finished Inferno. Wow difficult. to do it alone, I will need alot better gear..

have 33k no buff, 22% crit hit and 78% crit damage, 500 all ress without the prismatic armor.

But damn the gear cost alot... I was looking for maybe selling my wep to get a less damage but more crit damage, finally, I'll keep it for a long time lol.

[CJCerny]

Originally Posted by digibucc

honestly i find it depressing how strongly you guys defend it. either it needs the defense and you are proving that or it doesn't and you're wasting your time. either way with a game of this popularity there is simply no way you are not going to hear complaining, some will be baseless and some accurate, just like every other game.now that being said, I can not believe you have nothing negative to say about the game. you've played it since release but don't have a single thing to complain about? that just doesn't seem possible.

So we either get people like me, who are disappointed and can't bring themselves to enjoy the game for what it is - and then people like you who defend every thing about it whether it deserves defense or not. neither us are giving our full thoughts because we both are trying to prove a point: either it's good or bad. but just because you have chosen to like it overall, doesn't mean there aren't problems, and doesn't mean people aren't right in their assessment. the same works in reverse of course - just because i don't like it overall doesn't mean it didn't do things right.

i'm sorry cj ... i got less than 50 hours from the game, and imho less than 300 in a diablo game is unacceptable. i don't see how that is hypocritical - i think you need to address the actual arguments and not just straw-men. if you got more hours i'm happy for you - but don't act as though i should be happy with what i got. i didn't get the hours that a diablo game should give, and the hours i did get were simply not as enjoyable as they should have been.

so now the argument becomes: how realistic were my expectations? of course i believe they were realistic, you may not: however that is opinion. i can just as easily believe that you are too easily satisfied, that doesn't make either of us right or wrong.so in the end it is entirely a matter of opinion, and for you to act as though yours is the only valid opinion i think is disingenuous. no ends to what people complain about? i see no end to people defending a game that imho doesn't deserve it. now THAT is depressing.

I'm not defending the game. Don't own it. Haven't played it. I'm just wondering why anyone would spend 50 hours on an optional activity if they weren't enjoying it. I have no problem pressing the eject button on my DVD player after 10 minutes if I am not enjoying a movie. Surely you must have found something enjoyable or enlightening about it that caused you to spend 50 hours with it.

I will point out, that D3, like most major titles released today, is largely a victim of its own hype, and of the impossible expections that people had of it.

[digibucc]

Originally Posted by CJCerny

I'm not defending the game. I'm just wondering why anyone would spend 50 hours on an optional activity if they weren't enjoying it. I have no problem pressing the eject button on my DVD player after 10 minutes if I am not enjoying a movie.

because it's Diablo. If you don't understand why I gave it the benefit of the doubt and played through to hell then i'm not sure what to say. I didn't say i wasn't enjoying it - i said not as enjoyable as it should have been. now of course that leads to expectations, but i already covered that. in the end it is a fun game, but it simply is not good enough to be the successor to the series that easily got more than 500 hours from me over the last 15 years. and waiting a decade for the next release to be held by it for less than 50 hours, is about the most disappointing thing that can happen with a game series imo.

Originally Posted by CJCerny

I will point out, however, that D3, like most major titles released today, is largely a victim of its own hype, and of the impossible expections that people had of it.

Originally Posted by digibucc

so now the argument becomes: how realistic were my expectations? of course i believe they were realistic, you may not: however that is opinion. i can just as easily believe that you are too easily satisfied, that doesn't make either of us right or wrong.so in the end it is entirely a matter of opinion, and for you to act as though yours is the only valid opinion i think is disingenuous. no ends to what people complain about? i see no end to people defending a game that imho doesn't deserve it. now THAT is depressing.

[CJCerny]

Originally Posted by digibucc

because it's Diablo. If you don't understand why I gave it the benefit of the doubt and played through to hell then i'm not sure what to say. I didn't say i wasn't enjoying it - i said not as enjoyable as it should have been. now of course that leads to expectations, but i already covered that. in the end it is a fun game, but it simply is not good enough to be the successor to the series that easily got more than 500 hours from me over the last 15 years. and waiting a decade for the next release to be held by it for less than 50 hours, is about the most disappointing thing that can happen with a game series imo.

I certainly don't think Diablo, or anything else for that matter, is somehow immune from a possible mis-step. It has Diablo at the top of the box, but there are a lot of different people working on it, and a lot of design decisions were made differently in the late 90's when they were cooking D2. Have a long time favorite band? Have a CD or two of theirs where everytime you listen to it, you think "WTF were they thinking?". There are a ton of little intangibles that go into making you think something is awesome, and just strolling into something new without keeping that in mind is always gonna break your heart from time to time.

[Mussels]

too much grind for too little reward.


people wouldnt mind if there was something else to waste our time on, blizz needs to get someranked PvP arena matches in, similar to what they do with starcraft.

[digibucc]

Originally Posted by CJCerny

I certainly don't think Diablo, or anything else for that matter, is somehow immune from a possible mis-step. It has Diablo at the top of the box, but there are a lot of different people working on it, and a lot of design decisions were made differently in the late 90's when they were cooking D2. Have a long time favorite band? Have a CD or two of theirs where everytime you listen to it, you think "WTF were they thinking?". There are a ton of little intangibles that go into making you think something is awesome, and just strolling into something new without keeping that in mind is always gonna break your heart from time to time.

the difference is you're being hypothetical, whereas i am actually disappointed in what was released. telling me basically "ur doing it wrong" doesn't help. I am usually not the type to get over-hyped, and i honestly do not think i was for d3. I have managed for 27 years to not get my hopes up to an unrealistic level becoming disappointed: so for me my expectations were entirely realistic. diablo 3 just didn't meet them.

[Delta6326]

I was probably to harsh on the story I was just expecting more from the end, but yes I could see a lot of the story coming. Don't get me wrong though I still had fun just wanted a bit more out of it.

[n-ster]

the story line was overall, great. It wasn't consistently good, but the awesome parts of the story were just super awesome

[phanbuey]

do people still play this game?

[AsRock]

Originally Posted by Mussels

too much grind for too little reward.


people wouldnt mind if there was something else to waste our time on, blizz needs to get someranked PvP arena matches in, similar to what they do with starcraft.

Actually i would like quest added for coop games as as it stands now there is a lack of content and needs more random added.

As for PvP YARN making me tired people talking about not having it is breaking the game lol. What actually would help is being able to find stuff in inferno to help you get though it more often. But Blizz is to busy enjoying their 15% cut on each sale. Which brings me to another issue mainly only people who have actually got money to burn on pixels are making the prices super crazy for everyone else.

And now if i want to get any further in inferno i have to spend real money which is not going to happen never mind act 2 being pathetic on how much harder than act 1 is .

Originally Posted by phanbuey

do people still play this game?

I play every day.

[n-ster]

I really want to play but I get bored out of my mind when I try

[phanbuey]

me too... when is torchlight coming out? Or borderlands 2... Not to troll the thread, but I wish they opened it up to modding so we could add new areas.

Also the patching is a bit annoying.