Age of Mythology, any way to play it without my disc? Only reason I have a disc drive

Phusius · Jul 25, 2012, 02:27 AM

I only play one game still that requires a disc, Age of Mythology, and never use any other discs so no point for me to have my DVDRW drive anymore if I can figure out a way to play this game without the disc... checked GOG, GMG, Steam, no one sells it on digital form. Thoughts?

MT Alex · Jul 25, 2012, 02:53 AM

I pretty sure any answer to your question would be against the rules of this site. It's not that hard to figure out for yourself.

m4gicfour · Jul 25, 2012, 02:56 AM

DT

Quote:

Originally Posted by MT Alex

I pretty sure any answer to your question would be against the rules of this site. It's not that hard to figure out for yourself.

Yeah that thought passed through my head the second after I hit post. Perhaps I should EDIT that out.

Phusius · Jul 25, 2012, 02:58 AM

I will just use the disc then, I don't know how to pirate without getting virus's etc.

m4gicfour · Jul 25, 2012, 03:02 AM

You don't need to pirate. You need to circumvent the copy protection; to disable or work around the disc check. This falls under FAIR USE, so long as you own the software. (dependant on local laws, etc etc)

Downloading a pirate copy is, as always, a risky idea; certainly not one I or TPU endorses.

Phusius · Jul 25, 2012, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4gicfour

You don't need to pirate. You need to circumvent the copy protection; to disable or work around the disc check. This falls under FAIR USE, so long as you own the software. (dependant on local laws, etc etc)

Downloading a pirate copy is, as always, a risky idea; certainly not one I or TPU endorses.

Not sure how pirating ever became popular anyway, how can people risk messing up or slowing down their entire PC with junk like that. I will stick with my SSD speeds and fiber optic internet thanks xD

m4gicfour · Jul 25, 2012, 03:19 AM

Everyone seems to have their pet justifications.

I can't tell you how to play your game that you rightfully own without the disc in the drive because that knowledge can be used just as easily to play a game you don't own; even if you wouldn't do that, the site is accessible online to everyone and enough of those people don't have your integrity.

sneekypeet · Jul 25, 2012, 03:23 AM

it isn't pirating... Google the title of this thread with some slight modifications for specifics and see what shows up.

m4gicfour · Jul 25, 2012, 03:24 AM

Yup. If you own it, you have the right to play it.

yogurt_21 · Jul 25, 2012, 02:27 PM

at the very least you should be able to rip your disk to an iso and then mount it with daemon tools or similar. Digitalizing your library isn't illegal. You bought the game, you don't plan on giving away the disk, you'd just like to run it without the disk. I don't see an issue here.

Also most of the disk required games are only searchign for a few specific files, it shouldn't be hard to reporduce those.

brandonwh64 · Jul 25, 2012, 02:34 PM

I have the full installer that I downloaded from windows game live website back in the day when I purchased it. I just checked thought its not on the windows gaming store anymore

TheMailMan78 · Jul 25, 2012, 02:43 PM

See if your key will activate via Windows Live. Worth a try?

phanbuey · Jul 25, 2012, 03:00 PM

image the disk and then use magicdisk or somthing to make a virtual drive and load the ISO. Even if you get rid of your disk drive from the rig, you will always want an external USB one hanking around in case you want to perform some maintenance or something.

Keep the original disk as backup.

brandonwh64 · Jul 25, 2012, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanbuey

image the disk and then use magicdisk or somthing to make a virtual drive and load the ISO. Even if you get rid of your disk drive from the rig, you will always want an external USB one hanking around in case you want to perform some maintenance or something.

Keep the original disk as backup.

this also has my vote. I have alot of my older game discs ripped to ISO for this reason. Makes installing larger games way faster.

Wrigleyvillain · Jul 25, 2012, 03:57 PM

As soon as you dump the drive you are going to end up needing it for something. And do you have a different plan for reinstalling Windows?

W1zzard · Jul 25, 2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrigleyvillain

And do you have a different plan for reinstalling Windows?

USB stick

cadaveca · Jul 25, 2012, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

USB stick

+1! Best method to install Windows, and Microsoft provides a tool to make the USB drive bootable as well:

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...usbdvd_dwnTool

You just make image of OS disc, using one of many free tools, this tool takes care of the rest.

Wrigleyvillain · Jul 25, 2012, 04:57 PM

Yeah I am aware there are other options just asking OP if he has plans for such.

Thats also nice as should be able to slipstream in updates and service packs (and whatever else you want) to save some time and bandwidth.

phanbuey · Jul 25, 2012, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

+1! Best method to install Windows, and Microsoft provides a tool to make the USB drive bootable as well:

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/...usbdvd_dwnTool

You just make image of OS disc, using one of many free tools, this tool takes care of the rest.

Or you can just put in the DVD. Seems easier just to do that then take another 30 mins to make a USB stick.

Not to mention, you still need a DVD drive to make the image so.... kinda pointless IMO - you will still have an external (obviously assuming one computer and a disc).

Clearly you're going to be able to figure it out, but its a pain. Just spend the $20 on an external writer. Then you can also burn your grandma Photo DVDs and she will think its the greatest stuff ever.

cadaveca · Jul 25, 2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phanbuey

Or you can just put in the DVD. Seems easier just to do that then take another 30 mins to make a USB stick.

Not to mention, you still need a DVD drive to make the image so....

Between making the image, and burning the DVD + the time saved on install, the USB method is far faster. And, if you are like me, and install Windows weekly on test rigs, DVD is just not a viable option.

Making USB stick takes 15 minutes, including ripping the image. Then Windows install takes like 5-8 minutes after. It's really amazing how quickly Windows installs from USB. DVD is like 1.5 MB/second, USB, up to ~30 MB/sec on USB 2.0.

I wish they'd start selling games on USB sticks, just stick in the stick to play, USB 3.0 is far faster than traditional mechanical drives anyway.

TheMailMan78 · Jul 25, 2012, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Between making the image, and burning the DVD + the time saved on install, the USB method is far faster. And, if you are like me, and install Windows weekly on test rigs, DVD is just not a viable option.

Making USB stick takes 15 minutes, including ripping the image. Then Windows install takes like 5-8 minutes after. It's really amazing how quickly Windows installs from USB. DVD is like 1.5 MB/second, USB, up to ~30 MB/sec on USB 2.0.

I wish they'd start selling games on USB sticks, just stick in the stick to play, USB 3.0 is far faster than traditional mechanical drives anyway.

I cant wait until I can install windows via USB 3.0!

phanbuey · Jul 25, 2012, 06:20 PM

^^ i totally agree. I dont think they will do that, just from experience when we make installers for our ERP system (which is old and does not do remote installations well, or at all) we have to make backup DVD's. Making an awesome dvd with a logo costs us 0.80 cents, for a 4GB USB stick was $7, and when you're making 1,000 the boss will always sign the cheaper PO.

I don't see USB installers ever taking off... if anything I see laptops connecting to a server to download the OS on-demand.

Phusius · Jul 25, 2012, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

See if your key will activate via Windows Live. Worth a try?

Thank for your help everyone, I am going to MailMan's idea a try. xD

HD64G · Jul 25, 2012, 06:55 PM

Here is a legal, simple and fast way to plwy without any disk. Valid for most games. Here is the link for yours:

http://m0001.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_age_of_mythology.shtml

Jul 25, 2012, 02:27 AM	#1
Phusius Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,262 (3.00/day) Thanks: 621 Thanked 380 Times in 208 Posts System Specs	Age of Mythology, any way to play it without my disc? Only reason I have a disc drive I only play one game still that requires a disc, Age of Mythology, and never use any other discs so no point for me to have my DVDRW drive anymore if I can figure out a way to play this game without the disc... checked GOG, GMG, Steam, no one sells it on digital form. Thoughts?

Processor:	i5-2500k @ 4.5
Motherboard:	Asus Z68 Deluxe
Cooling:	Noctua NH-D14
Memory:	16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card:	Sapphire 7950 @ 1200/1475 @ 1175v
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell 23" 2ms
Case:	Carbide 500r
Sound Card:	Asus Xonar DG

Jul 25, 2012, 02:53 AM	#2
MT Alex Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Montana Posts: 2,015 (1.45/day) Thanks: 2,534 Thanked 1,322 Times in 917 Posts System Specs	I pretty sure any answer to your question would be against the rules of this site. It's not that hard to figure out for yourself. __________________ “growing up, i always wanted to be a vet. til i learned there was more to being a vet than just putting down cats all day.” -digibucc My 700D

System Name:	Abacus
Processor:	i5 2500K
Motherboard:	ASRock p67 Extreme4 Gen3
Cooling:	Swiftech MCP35X, 2 DD 5870 WB, EK HF Copper, 2.120 rad, 3.120 rad
Memory:	2x4GB G.Skill Sniper 1600
Video Card:	2 Sapphire HD 5870 w/ Danger Den WBs
Hard Disk:	WD 640BG x2/WD 250GB/Samsung 2TB
Optical Drive:	Silly
CRT/LCD Model:	ASUS VH242 23.6" LCD
Case:	Corsair 700D
Sound Card:	X-Fi XtremeGamer
PSU:	Thermaltake Toughpower 700w Modular
Software:	Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM

System Name:	Why did I put WC in an Antec 900?
Processor:	Phenom II X6 1100T @ Stock
Motherboard:	Asus M4A79 Deluxe
Cooling:	Swiftech ApogeeXT + EK-VGASupremeHF(x2) + EK-NB/SB + EK-VRM + 2x120MM Rad + 1x120mm Rad + 3xDDC1T
Memory:	8GB Gskill DDR2 1066
Video Card:	Gigabyte Radeon 5850 1GB OC 925MHz + Sapphire RHD 5870 1GB OC 920Mhz
Hard Disk:	Corsair ForceGT 120GB + 1TB WDC Black + MediaSonic Raid array (4x Hitachi 1TB Deskstar 7200.c)
Optical Drive:	Samsung SATA Lightscribe CD/DVD Burner
CRT/LCD Model:	55" Olevia 1080P 255TFHD 10ms(it rules)
Case:	Modified Antec Nine Hundred
Sound Card:	Radeon Realtek HDMI 7.1 Audio -> Onkyo TX-SR876 + 7.1 Polk Audio
PSU:	Corsair HX850
Software:	Win 7 Pro 64-bit

Jul 25, 2012, 02:58 AM	#4
Phusius Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,262 (3.00/day) Thanks: 621 Thanked 380 Times in 208 Posts System Specs	I will just use the disc then, I don't know how to pirate without getting virus's etc.

Jul 25, 2012, 03:02 AM	#5
m4gicfour Join Date: May 2008 Location: Swift Current, SK, Canada Posts: 788 (0.43/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 294 Times in 225 Posts System Specs	You don't need to pirate. You need to circumvent the copy protection; to disable or work around the disc check. This falls under FAIR USE, so long as you own the software. (dependant on local laws, etc etc) Downloading a pirate copy is, as always, a risky idea; certainly not one I or TPU endorses. __________________ “Yes, but you are comparing Bethesda to EA. That's like comparing a fine dining experience at a gourmet restaurant to eating a turd out of a dumpster.” -Kreij E-Mail me? Please use with courtesy. Heatware Last edited by m4gicfour; Jul 25, 2012 at 03:08 AM.

Jul 25, 2012, 03:19 AM	#7
m4gicfour Join Date: May 2008 Location: Swift Current, SK, Canada Posts: 788 (0.43/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 294 Times in 225 Posts System Specs	Everyone seems to have their pet justifications. I can't tell you how to play your game that you rightfully own without the disc in the drive because that knowledge can be used just as easily to play a game you don't own; even if you wouldn't do that, the site is accessible online to everyone and enough of those people don't have your integrity. __________________ “Yes, but you are comparing Bethesda to EA. That's like comparing a fine dining experience at a gourmet restaurant to eating a turd out of a dumpster.” -Kreij E-Mail me? Please use with courtesy. Heatware

Jul 25, 2012, 03:23 AM	#8
sneekypeet Unpaid Babysitter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 18,983 (7.32/day) Thanks: 3,032 Thanked 5,481 Times in 3,947 Posts System Specs	it isn't pirating... Google the title of this thread with some slight modifications for specifics and see what shows up. __________________ Hers: ASUS Maximus V Gene / i7 3770K / Swiftech H220 / 4X8GB Corsair Dominators / ASUS GTX660 / Corsair AX-760 / Windows 7 64bit / Fractal Design ARC Midi R2 Test: Gigabyte Z68X-UD4-B3 / i7 2600K / A lot Of Coolers / Ripjaws Currently / HIS HD7950 IceQ Turbo / Silverstone SST-ST85F-G / Windows 7 64bit / InWin D-Frame Limited Edition

System Name:	His
Processor:	Intel i7 3770K Cooled with Swiftech Apogee Drive II
Motherboard:	Asus Maximus V Extreme
Cooling:	Swiftech MCR-320 Cooled With Corsair SP120 Fans
Memory:	4X4GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2666 C11
Video Card:	Asus GTX680 Direct Cu II TOP
Hard Disk:	Corsair Force GT 180GB / Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB
Optical Drive:	- - - - - - -
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung 40" 120hz LCD
Case:	SilverStone Temjin TJ11
Sound Card:	Realtek on board > Sony receiver > Cerwin Vega's
PSU:	Corsair AX1200
Software:	Windows 7 Ultimate 64

Jul 25, 2012, 03:24 AM	#9
m4gicfour Join Date: May 2008 Location: Swift Current, SK, Canada Posts: 788 (0.43/day) Thanks: 38 Thanked 294 Times in 225 Posts System Specs	Yup. If you own it, you have the right to play it. __________________ “Yes, but you are comparing Bethesda to EA. That's like comparing a fine dining experience at a gourmet restaurant to eating a turd out of a dumpster.” -Kreij E-Mail me? Please use with courtesy. Heatware

Jul 25, 2012, 02:27 PM	#10
yogurt_21 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,054 (1.53/day) Thanks: 2,243 Thanked 542 Times in 443 Posts System Specs	at the very least you should be able to rip your disk to an iso and then mount it with daemon tools or similar. Digitalizing your library isn't illegal. You bought the game, you don't plan on giving away the disk, you'd just like to run it without the disk. I don't see an issue here. Also most of the disk required games are only searchign for a few specific files, it shouldn't be hard to reporduce those.

System Name:	Last of the Mohicans
Processor:	Intel i7 950 @ 4.4GHZ 21x210
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
Cooling:	Scythe Mugen 2 rev B (SCMG-2100), stock on gpu's.
Memory:	6GB Kingston HyperX ddr3 1600 9-9-9-27@ 1680
Video Card:	2x Msi gtx 480 :) Still Strong
Hard Disk:	Samsung 840 Pro 256GB OS, 3x WD10EARS in raid 0 games, external 2tb storage, RaptorX 150GB chillin
Optical Drive:	SONY DVD-+RW and sony combo
CRT/LCD Model:	Viewsonic 27" 1080P
Case:	Raidmax Scorpio 668, stupid small ass case has 1 too few expansion slots in the back
Sound Card:	onboard HD
PSU:	Enermax Galaxy 1kw 75amp +12v
Software:	Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
Benchmarks:	thus far max 3d11 11580, Vantage 43977

Jul 25, 2012, 02:34 PM	#11
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,560 (10.05/day) Thanks: 2,138 Thanked 5,338 Times in 3,695 Posts System Specs	I have the full installer that I downloaded from windows game live website back in the day when I purchased it. I just checked thought its not on the windows gaming store anymore __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

System Name:	The StarCrunch Defender!
Processor:	I7 2600K @ 4.5ghz 1.32V
Motherboard:	Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Cooling:	Corsair A70 Push/Pull
Memory:	G-Skill Ripjaws 2x4GB DDR3 1866mhz
Video Card:	Gigabyte 7970 3GB Reference Card at boost clocks
Hard Disk:	2x 500GB WD Blue Raid 0 / 1TB WD Black
Optical Drive:	Samsung DVD/R/RW SATA
CRT/LCD Model:	ViewSonic VG2227wm 1080P
Case:	NZXT Tempest 410 Elite
Sound Card:	Onboard Realtek (Azalia)
PSU:	Corsair 750TX
Software:	Windows 7 Home X64

Jul 25, 2012, 02:43 PM	#12
TheMailMan78 Banstick Dummy Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Crystal River, FL Posts: 15,109 (6.94/day) Thanks: 1,337 Thanked 6,829 Times in 3,739 Posts System Specs	See if your key will activate via Windows Live. Worth a try?

System Name:	The Mailbox 3.5
Processor:	Intel i7 2600k @ 3.8GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z
Cooling:	Stock
Memory:	G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB DDR3 1866: 9-9-9-24
Video Card:	EVGA GTX670 "FTW" Edition @ 1006MHz
Hard Disk:	256gb M4 SSD, 500Gb WD (7200)
Optical Drive:	LG - 24x Double-Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Drive
CRT/LCD Model:	24" ASUS 1920 x 1080
Case:	Cooler Master 922 HAF
Sound Card:	SupremeFX X-Fi 2 with Bose Companion 2 speakers.
PSU:	SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold
Software:	Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center 64bit
Benchmarks:	Benching is for bitches.

Jul 25, 2012, 03:00 PM	#13
phanbuey Eligible for custom title Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 5,010 (2.49/day) Thanks: 1,484 Thanked 959 Times in 812 Posts System Specs	image the disk and then use magicdisk or somthing to make a virtual drive and load the ISO. Even if you get rid of your disk drive from the rig, you will always want an external USB one hanking around in case you want to perform some maintenance or something. Keep the original disk as backup.

System Name:	LoLBoX
Processor:	Core i5 750 at 3.33 Ghz 21x159bclk @1.15v
Motherboard:	Gigabyte H55-ITX
Cooling:	Corsair H50
Memory:	8GB Samsung ECO 4GBx2 - 1590Mhz 8-8-8-21 1T @ 1.4v
Video Card:	EVGA GTX 570 @ 785/1570/2020
Hard Disk:	500GB WD Caviar Black 32MB
Optical Drive:	Slimline +/- DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	22" Viewsonic 1080P LED
Case:	Silverstone SG08
Sound Card:	Yes
PSU:	Silverstone SG08 600W
Software:	Windows 7 64 Bit

Jul 25, 2012, 03:57 PM	#15
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,497 (2.20/day) Thanks: 1,523 Thanked 1,572 Times in 1,115 Posts System Specs	As soon as you dump the drive you are going to end up needing it for something. And do you have a different plan for reinstalling Windows? __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

System Name:	DarkStar
Processor:	i5 3570K
Motherboard:	Asrock Z77E-ITX
Cooling:	Apogee HD White/AC Nexxos 120/XSPC H2O 750
Memory:	8GB Samsung Green 1600
Video Card:	MSI HD 7950 TF3
Hard Disk:	OCZ Agility 3 240GB
Optical Drive:	Asus Blu Ray burner
CRT/LCD Model:	23" Apple Cinema Display HD Aluminum
Case:	Bit Fenix Prodigy (Yang)
PSU:	NZXT Hale82 650W
Software:	Windows 7 x64

Processor:	Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS P8Z68-V Pro
Memory:	3x 2048 MB Mushkin DDR3
Video Card:	ASUS GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II TOP
Hard Disk:	Crucial C300 128 GB, WD6400AAKS 640 GB, WD15EADS 1.5 TB
Optical Drive:	BenQ DW1640
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell U3011 30", 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Case:	NZXT H2
Sound Card:	On-board Realtek HD
PSU:	Kingwin Absolute Platinum 550 W
Software:	Windows 7 64-bit

System Name:	Eyefinity Gamer
Processor:	Intel i5 3570K @ 4.6 GHz
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximmus V Formula
Cooling:	Corsair H100
Memory:	16 GB G.Skill F3-2666C11Q-16GTXD
Video Card:	AMD Radeon HD7950 3GB x2 w/AMD Catalyst 12.10
Hard Disk:	OCZ Nocti 60GB mSATA, Crucial M4 120GB x2
Optical Drive:	LG BluRay/HD-DVD
CRT/LCD Model:	3x Dell U2412M
Case:	LianLi T60
Sound Card:	N/A
PSU:	Silverstone Strider 750W GOLD
Software:	Windows 8 Pro
Benchmarks:	Benchmarking is for suckers. ;)

Jul 25, 2012, 04:57 PM	#18
Wrigleyvillain Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 4,497 (2.20/day) Thanks: 1,523 Thanked 1,572 Times in 1,115 Posts System Specs	Yeah I am aware there are other options just asking OP if he has plans for such. Thats also nice as should be able to slipstream in updates and service packs (and whatever else you want) to save some time and bandwidth. __________________ “i dont care what consoles have they dont have mouse and keyboard” -crazyeyesreaper

Jul 25, 2012, 06:20 PM	#22
phanbuey Eligible for custom title Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 5,010 (2.49/day) Thanks: 1,484 Thanked 959 Times in 812 Posts System Specs	^^ i totally agree. I dont think they will do that, just from experience when we make installers for our ERP system (which is old and does not do remote installations well, or at all) we have to make backup DVD's. Making an awesome dvd with a logo costs us 0.80 cents, for a 4GB USB stick was $7, and when you're making 1,000 the boss will always sign the cheaper PO. I don't see USB installers ever taking off... if anything I see laptops connecting to a server to download the OS on-demand.

Jul 25, 2012, 06:55 PM	#24
HD64G Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Greece Posts: 68 (0.09/day) Thanks: 271 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts System Specs	Here is a legal, simple and fast way to plwy without any disk. Valid for most games. Here is the link for yours: http://m0001.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_age_of_mythology.shtml

Processor:	AMD PhenomX3 720BE@3,2GHz 1,35V
Motherboard:	Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H
Cooling:	AC Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2
Memory:	2*2GB OCZ 1066MHz LV
Video Card:	Sapphire HD5750 1GB
Hard Disk:	2 Samsung F1 & F3 (1TB)
Optical Drive:	LG DVD-RAM 22X, ASUS DVD-ROM
CRT/LCD Model:	Samsung SyncMaster 797DF 17'' CRT
Case:	CM Elite 310
Sound Card:	Onboard
PSU:	OCZ Z550
Software:	XP pro sp2

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
[WTB] COD4 Disc (Disc only!) ( No Serial Needed)	Charper2013	Buy/Sell/Trade/Giveaway Forum	1	Mar 3, 2009 12:04 AM
Far Cry 2 play without Disc ?	wolf2009	Games	5	Dec 30, 2008 04:31 AM
Warcraft 3 without the disc?	OrbitzXT	Games	21	Oct 29, 2007 02:32 PM
Any way to play games without CD?	Azn Tr14dZ	General Software	26	Oct 9, 2006 04:52 AM