Help with i7 870 please - Page 3

vychytraly · Jul 29, 2012, 07:52 AM

and do you think that FSB 200, Ram multi 8, and CPU multi 18 (and making it slowly higher) is too much? with 200FSB is there a need of QPI link changes?

JrRacinFan · Jul 29, 2012, 01:22 PM

Yeah. I think that is asking too much out of that board.

vychytraly · Jul 29, 2012, 07:44 PM

maybe it worths trying, if it wouldnt work the PC just wouldnt boot... or could get something damaged?

and is adding +100mV to processor on this board too risky? should I maximally add +75mV?

thank you very much for your advices

JrRacinFan · Jul 30, 2012, 12:12 AM

You can in theory damage something even going an extra 100mhz overclocked. Running past manuf specs can damage anything.

gasolin · Jul 30, 2012, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vychytraly

and do you think that FSB 200, Ram multi 8, and CPU multi 18 (and making it slowly higher) is too much? with 200FSB is there a need of QPI link changes?

Lynnfield based CPUs are unique in that they do not have a QPI

http://www.overclockers.com/3-step-g...core-i3-i5-i7/

look for Core i7 (Lynnfield – i7 860, 870)

JrRacinFan · Jul 30, 2012, 04:56 PM

You're full of it. Tell me then what is this?

gasolin · Jul 30, 2012, 08:30 PM

Not saying it's true, i just just told you what i so, if it's not true just tell me ok. ;-)

I don't know evereything thats why i sometimes ask alot of questions

vychytraly · Jul 31, 2012, 01:10 PM

is it a coincidence that QPI link frequency is very similar to Uncore clock?

and "You can in theory damage something even going an extra 100mhz overclocked. Running past manuf specs can damage anything. "

does that mean that its worth trying? (FSB 200)

and why shouldnt I put RAM clock over 1600MHz? In Slovakia some pc guys told me that its a random chance... maybe they will be able to run 1800MHz, but could they be damaged?

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 10:36 AM

today - FSB 165, cpu 3,62 GHz 22 multi, RAMs 1650 MHz 10 multi, seems stable, could I keep on Pushing the FSB up?

I didnt raised the ram or cpu voltage (cpu is still +50 mV and RAMs 1.50V)

I think that these RAMs could live with these or higher clocks or not? Could they be OCed to lets say 1800MHz?

brandonwh64 · Aug 1, 2012, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vychytraly

today - FSB 165, cpu 3,62 GHz 22 multi, RAMs 1650 MHz 10 multi, seems stable, could I keep on Pushing the FSB up?

I didnt raised the ram or cpu voltage (cpu is still +50 mV and RAMs 1.50V)

I think that these RAMs could live with these or higher clocks or not? Could they be OCed to lets say 1800MHz?

Try 22*182 +75mV and ram at 1.65V

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 11:11 AM

RAM with 10 multiplier... ok? 1820MHz, I think they are able to live with it

But why 1.65V? I think these are 1.5V version of grey series, it is also written on them, on their stickers.

If you look on the stickers of 1.65V Kingston RAMs you sent on newegg link a few days ago, there is written 1.65V.

So they cant be the same.

I think they could be hurt with 1.65V. Or not? But if the pc will boot with 1.5V 1820MHz RAMs is there any reason to raise the voltage?

Thank you very much for your time

brandonwh64 · Aug 1, 2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vychytraly

RAM with 10 multiplier... ok? 1820MHz, I think they are able to live with it

But why 1.65V? I think these are 1.5V version of grey series, it is also written on them, on their stickers.

If you look on the stickers of 1.65V Kingston RAMs you sent on newegg link a few days ago, there is written 1.65V.

So they cant be the same.

I think they could be hurt with 1.65V. Or not? But if the pc will boot with 1.5V 1820MHz RAMs is there any reason to raise the voltage?

Thank you very much for your time

You are going above the rated speed of the ram so you will need more voltage just as you would for the CPU. 1.65V is the limit for ram on intels new spec

JrRacinFan · Aug 1, 2012, 01:39 PM

Again you are also over locking uncore and qpi. That extra voltage will help stable everything out. Trying not to sound like a broken record. As of right now with those clocks you mention your technically over locking the board to facilitate higher imc bandwidth.

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 06:12 PM

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 182, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Windows freezed on the "intro" logo and PC turned off

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 175, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Stable

Next steps -

1. Raise FSB to 182 and put CPU Voltage to +100mV? (Or is there any other way to make it stable?
2. Could I set the RAM Multi to 10? Wont be the 1750MHz too much?

Thank you for your help

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 06:15 PM

Could adding the voltage to RAMs also help to stable the CPU on 182 FSB?

brandonwh64 · Aug 1, 2012, 06:52 PM

Set ram multi to 10x and try again

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 06:53 PM

Edit

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 182, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Windows freezed on the "intro" logo and PC turned off

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 175, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Unstable - blue screen

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 168, RAM Multi = 10, CPU Voltage +50 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Unstable - blue screen

Highest I reached

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 165, RAM Multi = 10, CPU Voltage +50mV RAM Voltage 1.5V

Stable
Running now

So if the CPU Voltage doesnt make this pc stable what else should I change? Will the RAM Voltage make the PC stable?

brandonwh64 · Aug 1, 2012, 06:54 PM

Looks like you maybe hitting a wall with that lower end motherboard.

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 06:57 PM

Ok so nothing else will make it more stable?

What is hitting a wall, a CPU power supply? Or this Mobo cant handle higher FSBs?

But thank you very much for your help and time...

brandonwh64 · Aug 1, 2012, 06:57 PM

The motherboard is holding it back now.

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 06:59 PM

But is there any other way to try? +100mV? Is it too much?

brandonwh64 · Aug 1, 2012, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vychytraly

But is there any other way to try? +100mV? Is it too much?

Honestly I don't know how much 100+mV is to that board. could be 1.3V could be 1.4V I dunno until its tried and check CPUZ

vychytraly · Aug 1, 2012, 07:05 PM

Sorry

With OCCT CPU Burn test turned on I get max 1,19 CPU Vcore

(In BIOS I have +50mV now)

So if I count right +100mV should throw max CPU Vcore to 1,69... Is it acceptable, or worth trying?

JrRacinFan · Aug 1, 2012, 10:06 PM

@Brandon

Between 1.25-1.28v

gasolin · Aug 1, 2012, 10:51 PM

Std Asrock oc settings (choose 3.6ghz) 180x 20 and about 1.235 volt no turbo boost

Hope that vil give you a clue to how much vcore you need (going for 4.0-4.5 ghz)

Havn't read all the replays but what's best no turbo boost or turbo boost on?

QPI Link just about 3230mhz

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Jul 30, 2012, 12:12 AM	#54
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	You can in theory damage something even going an extra 100mhz overclocked. Running past manuf specs can damage anything. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

Jul 29, 2012, 07:52 AM	#51
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	and do you think that FSB 200, Ram multi 8, and CPU multi 18 (and making it slowly higher) is too much? with 200FSB is there a need of QPI link changes?

Jul 29, 2012, 07:44 PM	#53
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	maybe it worths trying, if it wouldnt work the PC just wouldnt boot... or could get something damaged? and is adding +100mV to processor on this board too risky? should I maximally add +75mV? thank you very much for your advices

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Jul 30, 2012, 04:56 PM	#56
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Jul 30, 2012, 08:30 PM	#57
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Jul 31, 2012, 01:10 PM	#58
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	is it a coincidence that QPI link frequency is very similar to Uncore clock? and "You can in theory damage something even going an extra 100mhz overclocked. Running past manuf specs can damage anything. " does that mean that its worth trying? (FSB 200) and why shouldnt I put RAM clock over 1600MHz? In Slovakia some pc guys told me that its a random chance... maybe they will be able to run 1800MHz, but could they be damaged?

Aug 1, 2012, 10:36 AM	#59
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	today - FSB 165, cpu 3,62 GHz 22 multi, RAMs 1650 MHz 10 multi, seems stable, could I keep on Pushing the FSB up? I didnt raised the ram or cpu voltage (cpu is still +50 mV and RAMs 1.50V) I think that these RAMs could live with these or higher clocks or not? Could they be OCed to lets say 1800MHz?

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Aug 1, 2012, 11:11 AM	#61
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	RAM with 10 multiplier... ok? 1820MHz, I think they are able to live with it But why 1.65V? I think these are 1.5V version of grey series, it is also written on them, on their stickers. If you look on the stickers of 1.65V Kingston RAMs you sent on newegg link a few days ago, there is written 1.65V. So they cant be the same. I think they could be hurt with 1.65V. Or not? But if the pc will boot with 1.5V 1820MHz RAMs is there any reason to raise the voltage? Thank you very much for your time

Aug 1, 2012, 01:39 PM	#63
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	Again you are also over locking uncore and qpi. That extra voltage will help stable everything out. Trying not to sound like a broken record. As of right now with those clocks you mention your technically over locking the board to facilitate higher imc bandwidth. __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

Aug 1, 2012, 06:12 PM	#64
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 182, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V Windows freezed on the "intro" logo and PC turned off CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 175, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V Stable Next steps - 1. Raise FSB to 182 and put CPU Voltage to +100mV? (Or is there any other way to make it stable? 2. Could I set the RAM Multi to 10? Wont be the 1750MHz too much? Thank you for your help

Aug 1, 2012, 06:15 PM	#65
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	Could adding the voltage to RAMs also help to stable the CPU on 182 FSB?

Aug 1, 2012, 06:52 PM	#66
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,562 (10.02/day) Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 5,341 Times in 3,696 Posts System Specs	Set ram multi to 10x and try again __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Aug 1, 2012, 06:53 PM	#67
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	Edit CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 182, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V Windows freezed on the "intro" logo and PC turned off CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 175, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V Unstable - blue screen CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 168, RAM Multi = 10, CPU Voltage +50 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V Unstable - blue screen Highest I reached CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 165, RAM Multi = 10, CPU Voltage +50mV RAM Voltage 1.5V Stable Running now So if the CPU Voltage doesnt make this pc stable what else should I change? Will the RAM Voltage make the PC stable?

Aug 1, 2012, 06:54 PM	#68
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,562 (10.02/day) Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 5,341 Times in 3,696 Posts System Specs	Looks like you maybe hitting a wall with that lower end motherboard. __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Aug 1, 2012, 06:57 PM	#69
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	Ok so nothing else will make it more stable? What is hitting a wall, a CPU power supply? Or this Mobo cant handle higher FSBs? But thank you very much for your help and time...

Aug 1, 2012, 06:57 PM	#70
brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Chatsworth, GA Posts: 13,562 (10.02/day) Thanks: 2,146 Thanked 5,341 Times in 3,696 Posts System Specs	The motherboard is holding it back now. __________________ Cruncher's: All GPU's GPU's: 7970 3GB Unlocked = 8 Threads 5770 1GB OCed = 2 Threads

Aug 1, 2012, 06:59 PM	#71
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	But is there any other way to try? +100mV? Is it too much?

Aug 1, 2012, 07:05 PM	#73
vychytraly Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Slovakia Posts: 117 (0.22/day) Thanks: 128 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts System Specs	Sorry With OCCT CPU Burn test turned on I get max 1,19 CPU Vcore (In BIOS I have +50mV now) So if I count right +100mV should throw max CPU Vcore to 1,69... Is it acceptable, or worth trying?

Aug 1, 2012, 10:06 PM	#74
JrRacinFan Served 5k and counting ... Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Youngstown, OH Posts: 16,121 (7.14/day) Thanks: 4,149 Thanked 4,552 Times in 4,027 Posts System Specs	@Brandon Between 1.25-1.28v __________________ Graphics Artists United™ Request Thread Low Cache CPU Club Solaris Utility DVD 3.0 DanishDevil's Logitech Soundroom TPU Video Gallery Sciencemark Revisited

Aug 1, 2012, 10:51 PM	#75
gasolin Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 106 (0.30/day) Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts System Specs	Std Asrock oc settings (choose 3.6ghz) 180x 20 and about 1.235 volt no turbo boost Hope that vil give you a clue to how much vcore you need (going for 4.0-4.5 ghz) Havn't read all the replays but what's best no turbo boost or turbo boost on? QPI Link just about 3230mhz Last edited by gasolin; Aug 1, 2012 at 11:38 PM.

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