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Old Aug 11, 2012, 01:05 AM   #76
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"ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS"
Cool thread, I already use the IC Diamond 24K paste. I've been using it for about a year now.

Best of the best imho.. I was testing the size to apply all day yesterday and found a blob about a tad smaller then an eraser on a pencil.. that much in the center was perfect to cover the 2700k cpu without any being squeezed out around the cpu... It actually spread perfect and I was surprised.

Here is a screen shot of my temps under stress..

I got about an 8c drop in temps over other paste... Not going to mention the names but MX-4 AS5 is crap compared to this stuff... I know the MX guys are going to flame me but whatever

Im not trying to sell, or tell ya to buy this stuff! But if you don't win go grab a tube of it. You cant go wrong and you wont be dissapointed

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Old Aug 11, 2012, 02:26 AM   #77
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$$$ $61.00/12 in. x 10.6 in. (30.5 cm x 27 cm).
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Nice find, and interesting too
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So, I am correct; the only difference is the quantity?

Then, "IC Diamond's newest Thermal Interface Material; IC Diamond 24!!!!!" is really the same stuff?

It is good TIM, I have no complaint about the performance, but it is rather difficult to spread, and it stains the IHS and heatsink base.
Bull shit!!! Arctucas! The only stain in in your shorts

Holly hell man!! This stuff you dont need to spread.... read my other post as I spent all day yesterday testing this stuff out... If you spread any paste your a fool, and I mean that in a kind way! Never spread the TIM... Dab it on the center of the cpu and place on the HS and let the heat of the cpu and pressure of the HS to spread it out.

I'll be glad to pop off my water block and take a picture of my EK-Supreme HF nickel plated water block, and wipe it clean with 99% rubbing alcohol and show you no stains! You better get your shit straight b4 commenting on bullshit... let me guess your a MX user?

I had the IC paste on for 6 months and the only reason I pulled off the block was to change all my O-rings on all the fittings for my loop. The surface of the block is still a mirror a finish like day one lmao!
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I just got some IC Diamond 7 yesterday for my new cpu/hs and used it, says it takes around 2 hours for peak performance, seems to be doing good so far.
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I just got some IC Diamond 7 yesterday for my new cpu/hs and used it, says it takes around 2 hours for peak performance, seems to be doing good so far.
Bahh, It's good to go! straight after heating it up for one time... This stuff really dont cure but stays flexible is the only way I can describe it.... Works like a charm!

have you removed the HS to see how it spread?
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Bull shit!!! Arctucas! The only stain in in your shorts

Holly hell man!! This stuff you dont need to spread.... read my other post as I spent all day yesterday testing this stuff out... If you spread any paste your a fool, and I mean that in a kind way! Never spread the TIM... Dab it on the center of the cpu and place on the HS and let the heat of the cpu and pressure of the HS to spread it out.

I'll be glad to pop off my water block and take a picture of my EK-Supreme HF nickel plated water block, and wipe it clean with 99% rubbing alcohol and show you no stains! You better get your shit straight b4 commenting on bullshit... let me guess your a MX user?

I had the IC paste on for 6 months and the only reason I pulled off the block was to change all my O-rings on all the fittings for my loop. The surface of the block is still a mirror a finish like day one lmao!
Whatever you say...

All I know is what I have personally experienced, if you have different results, I cannot comment on that.

And, I use a copper base block (Heatkiller 3.0) so your assertion that your nickel plated block is comparable is flawed. Tell me, how does the CPU IHS look?

Also, I discovered that the 'grain of rice' application method is most suitable, and I was not saying that I ever spread TIM, yet ICD appears to not 'spread out', when the heatsink is applied, as easily or completely as some other thinner TIM, which is to be expected given the viscosity.

As to being a "MX user", I tend to try different TIM over time, MX being one of several.
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Old Aug 12, 2012, 04:53 AM   #84
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Just wanted to bring some attention to the first post in this thread, in case any record keeping over on IC's side has been done. I have lapped my processor, so that introduces a change in temps (looks like a 5c drop, roughly...). I'm also now running at 4GHz, so that introduces more heat. I'll post up current temp results when I get the paste. Hopefully IC Diamond knocks it down some more for me!
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Just wanted to bring some attention to the first post in this thread, in case any record keeping over on IC's side has been done. I have lapped my processor, so that introduces a change in temps (looks like a 5c drop, roughly...). I'm also now running at 4GHz, so that introduces more heat. I'll post up current temp results when I get the paste. Hopefully IC Diamond knocks it down some more for me!
We are including some Contact and Pressure Paper with all samples so you can check your lapping
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Is there a preferred bench software we should use? in order to better compare results?
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Is there a preferred bench software we should use? in order to better compare results?
These were some on the concerns on the last give away at OCUK - So let's put it out for discussion and you people can decide, perhaps a Poll?



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For the people running the test I would recommend using LinX. I have just done a run with Perihelion and noticed the load temps where 5'C better with Noctua NT H1. However after looking at the LinX results you can see that the Noctua NT H1 was infact causing thermal throttling with the time/GFLOP going all over the place. Anything from 31 GFLOP to 48 GFLOPs. Obviously using Primeor .... you would never know and Noctua NT H1 would come out on top.

I am going to let Perihelion bed in some more and re run the test. Interesting, very impressed.

I'm using a pea size as recommended and works very well.

It might be worth adding this to the first post otherwise results could be invalid.

*** HEADS UP ** # 2 post #162


Guys if you are going to use IBT/Linx for testing the compounds, make sure your GFlops values are more or less same in all the tests otherwise your results will be invalid.

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MX-3 or any other thermal compound: 33-35GFlops in IBT

IC Diamond: 40-45GFlops in IBT

What will happen is that your temps will be higher in the case of IC Diamond as you are getting higher GFlops values even if IC Diamond is better than MX-3.
So you need to get GFlops values in a similar range for both compounds. So it should be e.g:

MX-3 or any other thermal compound: 43-45GFlops in IBT

IC Diamond: 43-45GFlops in IBT

Consistent/same GFlops values across all tests
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I hope I get a chance to try this stuff I gotta redo all the machines in the house
ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS
systems will include a cedermill p4
AMD althlon II and a prescott p4
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ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS
systems will include a cedermill p4
AMD althlon II and a prescott p4
Don't forget to record the current temps at idle and load OneMoar.
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First group hit the post this morning approx 30 samples out - Plenty of samples still available.

I will start a separate Results Thread for posting results with instructions for format, application and how to use the Contact and Pressure paper.
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ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS

I'm in for this. I have a couple overly hot GPU's and some watercooling to test.

Some AM3 cpu watercooled
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Pair of old netbooks with overlooked L310's.

Out of curiosity do you want any sub zero testing done? Not making any guarantees but I might be able to get a bit of dry ice going.
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"ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS"

yes i'll give it another go (i already have some 24carat diamond paste) (never hurts to apply some new)
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I sent each of you guys 3 Contact & Pressure Tests and your raw test results will look like the images below - It's a great tool for analysing performance, If you feel so inclined and not embarrassed by your result you can scan or photograph it and post along with your thermal results to compare.

I would also like to survey the end users here as to how this(C/P) would work as a stand alone product I can buy in bulk and repackage into test kits perhaps with a retail of $3 per test.

The target here is not so much profit but our view is the more people have a full view of the process the better for our paste sales. It's not rocket science & with a few comparison examples end users should be able to do the analysis on their on their own and trouble shoot any mounting problem.


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Picture the test results above as coming from 2 different website reviews with identical systems and identical heat sinks and run under the same conditions.

1st reviewer sees a 1 C difference

2nd reviewer sees 3 C difference

Not to dither here on the details of testing but which one is more accurate?

They are both equally accurate as the reviewers both reported what they saw.

But on a single test you have to Quantify your result to Qualify your result.

Both were tested @ 75lbs + (TR sinks have some awesome pressure!)

and if the reviewers both report contact area of 0.64 and 1.14 square inches respectively the tests are now comparable with the obvious conclusion that better contact improves performance. (Most here on this board are aware of this as experienced end users, I re-emphasize so everyone gets it, simple point but a key one)


In this test the lapping exercise improved performance for both compounds but ICD -2 C more so than the AS5 for overall of -3 C.

Low pressure and light contact area tends to homogenize the differences between compounds so that differences of perhaps maybe only +/- 1-2 C over an array of several tested compounds marginalizing test results within the range of the margin of error.

So to hammer the Point it is just good shop practice to insure good contact and tighten the sinks down

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"ON MY HONOR IN EXCHANGE FOR FREE COMPOUND I DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR TO TEST AND POST MY RESULTS"

Planning to test on my GTX460, GTX560 and Q8400 and my Dell Precision as I am getting bad temps on those with tuniq and they're overclocks,

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I sent each of you guys 3 Contact & Pressure Tests and your raw test results will look like the images below - It's a great tool for analysing performance, If you feel so inclined and not embarrassed by your result you can scan or photograph it and post along with your thermal results to compare.

I would also like to survey the end users here as to how this(C/P) would work as a stand alone product I can buy in bulk and repackage into test kits perhaps with a retail of $3 per test.

The target here is not so much profit but our view is the more people have a full view of the process the better for our paste sales. It's not rocket science & with a few comparison examples end users should be able to do the analysis on their on their own and trouble shoot any mounting problem.
I think the ideal would be to include multiple sheets. I know if I put one on and tested it as I currently have my block mounted and found that I had uneven pressure, I would want to test different ways to mount it. At least yould offer a multi-pack, too, in addition to single sheets.
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