What's wrong with our forum moderator staff?

[Namslas90]

Originally Posted by y eye

When he is a member.

I understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, and I believe that is the reality, but it is not a truth. It as a changing interpretation that is not explained nor agreed upon method of communication. We should be able to "mod the mods" make it easier for them to do their job as their admin instructs, because what you are saying is the problem...

Give the mods a post forum. Allow members to post there if the mods require. Keep the mods out of public forum, no posts just moderate/police, for a while and lets see if it will make a difference.

.y

How many forums have you visited. A lot of forums have a Admin choose a mod to answer your specific question. The problem with this type of system is that you only get one opinion, and it may not be correct. I believe the Mods here at TPU have earned their right to respond to any and all post, and were selected by their knowlege and ability. For the most part you don't see Mods here posting out of their knowlege base. The lack of restrictions on the Mods is what makes this forum work so well. In other forums, mods never get the chance to disagree with each other and therefore the member never gets more than one oponion, answer or respone. If the mod is wrong then the member gets S*%@*#d.

Why do you think this is one of the best Technical Forums available? Well it's partly due to the mods, partly due to the members and mostly due to W1zzard!!

[y eye]

Originally Posted by Jadawin

That is so far from reality that I actually have problems answering it... Mods are usually users that have shown some dedication/knowledge etc. and thus earned their Mod status. What you are saying is that once a User becomes a Mod, he has to shut up... that is just plain ridiculous. And btw, you are telling W1zzard to shut up here as well

That is not what I am saying.
The problem that has been outlined by our administrator here in this thread is the topic. The subject is mod problems or problem mods. What I said is that you have defined the problem your way and that I agree that it is the problem. I do not believe that you have much insight into your own statement or at least you are taking a very narrow view of "the problem".
I am trying to point out that there is a way to make it easy for mods to do their job and stop the barn yard pecking that goes on when mods show up in a public thread.

By definition: a mod is not a member. He is a "mod".

.y

[zekrahminator]

...We're not seriously getting into an argument over how to make the forums better.

[AshenSugar]

Originally Posted by y eye

That is not what I am saying.
The problem that has been outlined by our administrator here in this thread is the topic. The subject is mod problems or problem mods. What I said is that you have defined the problem your way and that I agree that it is the problem. I do not believe that you have much insight into your own statement or at least you are taking a very narrow view of "the problem".
I am trying to point out that there is a way to make it easy for mods to do their job and stop the barn yard pecking that goes on when mods show up in a public thread.

By definition: a mod is not a member. He is a "mod".

.y

um please source your definition (link the source of you definition please)

most mods are made mods after being members for an extended period of time, this makes sence, it also makes sence to start them off in a limmited roll such as mod of 1 section with limmited mod powers.

a mod is just a member whos show themselves in most cases to be a reliable member, sometimes not even a "problem free" member, i know i made some people mods that had their troubles(on here they are called infractions) because they showed them where capable of dealing with situations without making things worse most of the time.

now as in the case of a couple forums i use to frequint some of the mods where friends of the admin/owner, and in almost every case that was a bad thing, beacuse those mods could get away with stuff that was WAY out of line, but those are situations where the forums normaly die because the admin isnt willing to take mod powers from his buddys.

in this case i would say most of the mods are good and pretty transpairnt, hell Zek is a great guy and pretty good mod, little quick with the mod stick at times but at least hes fair about it most of the time.

there have been complaints against a mod or a few mods for being heavy handed or out of line, or hypocrites, this needs delt with, not saying the mod/mods involved need to be demoted, but they need to be talked to for sure, because you shouldnt be a mod if you cant interact well with people and follow your own rules, you shouldnt be a mod if you cant take criticism, because if people like that are mods it drives others away, i personaly know that i have had a mod come at me for something then do exectly what he told me not to post after post, i have been thretened for being critical of a certen mod's acctions in responce to a topic to the point of said mod thretening me.

again im not saying that mod shouldnt be a mod, im saying that maby some of the mods need to be talked to, or need to take a break for a little while, and learn to take criticism.

if you want to see a nasty forums try the megatokyo main forums, u need durac(depleted uranium armmor) to deal with the members attacks not to mention the mods who will nazi mod the shit out of you if they dont agree with you or dont like you.

its not that bad here, but i dont want to see it get that bad, i dont want to see more people driven away because some mods are drunk on their power.

its best to nip things in the bud b4 it gets to that point.

and Zek is a great guy dispite the smell...........

p.s. maby if zek would use soap when he showered insted of onion peels it would help :P

[cdawall]

i have a way to make the forum better mod powers to all who have an 8+ star rating and since people would be post whores just to get that they must be members since last year

[y eye]

Originally Posted by zekrahminator

...We're not seriously getting into an argument over how to make the forums better.

See what I mean?

[y eye]

Originally Posted by AshenSugar

um please source your definition (link the source of you definition please)

most mods are made mods after being members for an extended period of time, this makes sence, it also makes sence to start them off in a limmited roll such as mod of 1 section with limmited mod powers.

a mod is just a member whos show themselves in most cases to be a reliable member, sometimes not even a "problem free" member, i know i made some people mods that had their troubles(on here they are called infractions) because they showed them where capable of dealing with situations without making things worse most of the time.

now as in the case of a couple forums i use to frequint some of the mods where friends of the admin/owner, and in almost every case that was a bad thing, beacuse those mods could get away with stuff that was WAY out of line, but those are situations where the forums normaly die because the admin isnt willing to take mod powers from his buddys.

in this case i would say most of the mods are good and pretty transpairnt, hell Zek is a great guy and pretty good mod, little quick with the mod stick at times but at least hes fair about it most of the time.

there have been complaints against a mod or a few mods for being heavy handed or out of line, or hypocrites, this needs delt with, not saying the mod/mods involved need to be demoted, but they need to be talked to for sure, because you shouldnt be a mod if you cant interact well with people and follow your own rules, you shouldnt be a mod if you cant take criticism, because if people like that are mods it drives others away, i personaly know that i have had a mod come at me for something then do exectly what he told me not to post after post, i have been thretened for being critical of a certen mod's acctions in responce to a topic to the point of said mod thretening me.

again im not saying that mod shouldnt be a mod, im saying that maby some of the mods need to be talked to, or need to take a break for a little while, and learn to take criticism.

if you want to see a nasty forums try the megatokyo main forums, u need durac(depleted uranium armmor) to deal with the members attacks not to mention the mods who will nazi mod the shit out of you if they dont agree with you or dont like you.

its not that bad here, but i dont want to see it get that bad, i dont want to see more people driven away because some mods are drunk on their power.

its best to nip things in the bud b4 it gets to that point.

and Zek is a great guy dispite the smell...........

p.s. maby if zek would use soap when he showered insted of onion peels it would help :P

more barn yard pecking...control z

[Guttboy]

Alec...

As far as the file I havent even had a chance to get to it....things have been a mess on my end hence the lack of "attendance" here on the site. Lot of personal stuff going on...selling house, building a new one, dog has cancer...etc.....I am going to try to get a handle on it if I can find it again...LOL here in a couple weeks!

PS...this site does rock!

[Guttboy]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

well if anyone has a preblem with me id certainl;y like to know and i hope that didnt sound mean im not the type to usually lash out so no problems posting in this thread if im being a B#$% id like to hear about it.

Solaris...nothing personal but your avatar makes me frightened!

BTW....I grew up next to Lowell Mass and spend TONS of time in NH.

[Ketxxx]

imo, zek should be made head mod, hes always been fair and unbiased.

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by Guttboy

Solaris...nothing personal but your avatar makes me frightened!

BTW....I grew up next to Lowell Mass and spend TONS of time in NH.

adds to the effect ya NH is great! i love it hear i grew up in tampa so the looks alone are an amazing experience but alas i was born a city rat so it does get a tad boring

[AshenSugar]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

imo, zek should be made head mod, hes always been fair and unbiased.

true dat, true dat.

[AshenSugar]

Originally Posted by y eye

more barn yard pecking...control z

i still want links to your sorces, your feable attempt to deflect and disstract from a ligitimet request only shows that your most probbly talking out your ass..

[Ketxxx]

ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK for uber mod!

.......

Feel honoured, you have just been Ketifiqualified

[Guttboy]

Yeah I guess I could see that but I would rather be there than in the city...at least you are close...think of folks that have to drive TONS of hours before seeing a city of any decent size.

[AshenSugar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator

Role

The roles of moderators can vary from forum to forum, just as the purposes of the forums themselves can vary. However, on boards intended to be public, moderators are generally accorded additional powers. This allows them to enforce forum rules and conduct administrative tasks that the forum owner does not trust ordinary users to perform.

Among a moderator's enforcement duties is often the duty to stop flaming and keep the board a friendly place, free of personal insults (but different boards have different standards, and what is acceptable on one will invariably be prohibited on another). Most boards also ban illegal material (such as warez) and outright pornography, and many also restrict the use of profanity and any violent or sexual images, however in other boards this is considered perfectly acceptable, or even the norm.

On some boards, moderators are expected to stay out of all contentious debates, or at least to use alternate accounts to engage in them unbeknownst to common members. On most boards, however, moderators may participate just as any normal member, provided they remain civil and generally obey the site rules. Some boards require moderators not to moderate any discussion or topic they're involved in, and many moderators on other boards take this upon themselves to avoid conflict of interest and bias.

As always, there are many exceptions. Many small boards are operated at the whim of the site operator and perhaps some of his or her friends, and moderators might be able to do whatever they feel like on such boards (provided they avoid crossing their colleagues and superiors). Of course, a board with overly harsh or capricious moderators will lose members, but this may not be a concern for those who operate boards for fun or as a tangential matter to their website's main content.It is also in many forums important for a moderator to be available at all times or close enough to all times.A moderator must be available when there is a crisis or some profanity is posted.It is a moderators role to keep the forums clean and used properly.

hey y eye seems my definition shows your unsourced (taking out the arse) definition to be WRONG, you can admit your wrong now

[zekrahminator]

Originally Posted by Ketxxx

ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK ZEK for uber mod!

.......

Feel honoured, you have just been Ketifiqualified

Head mod....I like the sound of that .

[AshenSugar]

oh god we are giving him a big head.... :P

[Namslas90]

Originally Posted by zekrahminator

Head mod....I like the sound of that .

I thought W1zzard was the Headmod here, Lord of TPU!!

[AshenSugar]

w1z is ADMIN(aka GOD) here

[Ketxxx]

Originally Posted by zekrahminator

Head mod....I like the sound of that .

Course u do, I bestowed the title upon you

[y eye]

Originally Posted by AshenSugar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forum_moderator


hey y eye seems my definition shows your unsourced (taking out the arse) definition to be WRONG, you can admit your wrong now

like a cancered body it lies moldie and rotting for weeks now. you are sucking on a rusting exhaust pipe in a recking yard. have a nice day
.y

[ex_reven]

Originally Posted by y eye

like a cancered body it lies moldie and rotting for weeks now. you are sucking on a rusting exhaust pipe in a recking yard. have a nice day
.y

see what im mean?
what the heck is this meant to be saying to AshenSugar?
you confuse me so much

and wikipedia isnt brain dead, its a knowledge repository. You just have to be careful that you dont just singlely rely on wikipedia as a source of reputable information.

[Thermopylae_480]

1) Sorry, y eye. None of us are going to give up our right to post. We want to enjoy the forums too for the same reasons as everyone else.

2) Even if I couldn't post. I could still edit your posts if I disagreed with them. Not that I would, I think that's rather abhorrent.

3) Sure, take my post count. I really don't care about it at all. It does absolutely nothing.

[y eye]

Originally Posted by Thermopylae_480

1) Sorry, y eye. None of us are going to give up our right to post. We want to enjoy the forums too for the same reasons as everyone else.

2) Even if I couldn't post. I could still edit your posts if I disagreed with them. Not that I would, I think that's rather abhorrent.

3) Sure, take my post count. I really don't care about it at all. It does absolutely nothing.

I do not know the mods. I have not looked for a listing to identify them. When I find a clean thred the first thing is id the poster. When I find a dirty thread I shut it down no id just move on. The topic of this thread is what is important. What I am suggesting is an opinion about the topic and what I think would create an environment to clear the bad air, the blocked/manipulated communication. If you as a mod posted in a mod forum it would be the first place that I would search, for your posts as well as other mods. If a member was invited to post in the mod area great if not ok he can get it on on the member side. If that was the case how long do you think it would be before the mods would be shouting craping and bombing each other? I would like to see. The wizard has opened this thread for opinions and I jumped at the opportunity because I have thought about this topic for two years. Thank you and the wizzard for the opportunity.
.y