AMD Updates Radeon HD 7950 to Thwart GeForce GTX 660 Ti - Page 2

m1dg3t · Aug 14, 2012, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frogger

worst in CA

Dunno 'bout worst in Canada but definately not on my "Good seller" list. Have dealt with them 3 times. Twice i've had issues. Not good odd's, unless you're gambling!

Jstn7477 · Aug 14, 2012, 02:15 PM

Oh good, they changed the UVD clock from 500MHz to 850MHz (unless XFX changed it to 500 originally on my card). Really want to flash my XFX DD HD7950 if it's possible.

Delta6326 · Aug 14, 2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

Overclocking is free anyways..........

There are people that don't like to overclock and this will help them. This also adds boost clocks so your not at Max OC during gaming when you don't need it to be at 100%. Though I dunno if those people are willing to flash bios then...

eidairaman1 · Aug 14, 2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta6326

There are people that don't like to overclock and this will help them. This also adds boost clocks so your not at Max OC during gaming when you don't need it to be at 100%. Though I dunno if those people are willing to flash bios then...

No Unless if they get full phone support

techtard · Aug 14, 2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m1dg3t

Side note: Just started dealing with NCIx.ca, don't think it will continue. Abhorred customer service.

That's weird. I've been dealing with them since 2006 and no issues whatsoever.

Aceman.au · Aug 14, 2012, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost

Overclocking is free anyways..........

Until that magical puff of smoke or *CLICK* comes from the card... Then it becomes expensive

cadaveca · Aug 14, 2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Delta6326

Though I dunno if those people are willing to flash bios then...

That's why basically every 7950/7970 comes with dual BIOS. Is there one model without? That extra BIOS takes all the real danger away...if it fails, flip a switch, and reboot. Done deal.

If this is done at the hardware level as indicated, then AMD planned this from day one. I always thought they were sandbagging by not releasing cards @ 1000 MHz...it just didn't make sense. Until today.

Salsoolo · Aug 15, 2012, 12:12 AM

so my powercolor isnt reference?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/P...CS_Plus/1.html

Widjaja · Aug 15, 2012, 01:33 AM

This is dumb IMO.

Hoe any people really want to overclock with a factory BIOS flash?
Hopefully we do not see an influx of members posting on the AMD/ATi thread about bricking their 7950.

AMD just leave it as is.
nVidia pulled out a wild card and surprised me as well considering I see them usually as an overpriced company.

7950 is a great card....just nVidia released something better later on.

Hilux SSRG · Aug 15, 2012, 03:14 AM

Smart for AMD to re-market its 7950 against the newcomer 660Ti and also keep their prices from flling once the Nvidia counterpart hits shelves.

Prima.Vera · Aug 15, 2012, 07:02 AM

Can we have the 89xx series now? Thank you.

H82LUZ73 · Aug 15, 2012, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Salsoolo

so my powercolor isnt reference?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/P...CS_Plus/1.html

PowerColor's HD 7950 PCS+ is a full custom implementation of the HD 7950. It comes with a revamped PCB design, a new dual fan cooler and increased clock speeds of 880 MHz out of the box. Unfortunately memory is still clocked at 1250 MHz, like the reference design.

whistles

eidairaman1 · Aug 15, 2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

PowerColor's HD 7950 PCS+ is a full custom implementation of the HD 7950. It comes with a revamped PCB design, a new dual fan cooler and increased clock speeds of 880 MHz out of the box. Unfortunately memory is still clocked at 1250 MHz, like the reference design.

whistles

sounds like something that should be pushed honestly.

tacosRcool · Aug 15, 2012, 03:39 PM

a free overclock? Sweet

Jstn7477 · Aug 15, 2012, 03:43 PM

It's a free power consumption increase as well unless you actually overclock it further. Voltage is quite high in this BIOS.

cou8 · Aug 15, 2012, 08:01 PM

Can i use this bios even if my hd 7950 can't do 900 mhz (890 mhz max)

Mathragh · Aug 15, 2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cou8

Can i use this bios even if my hd 7950 can't do 900 mhz (890 mhz max)

Yes, this bios ups the voltage, so you should be fine.

Actually, as long as you've got a reference design board, they guarantee it I think.

Xzibit · Aug 15, 2012, 09:13 PM

I think the extra voltage throws off a lot of people.

They have to provide the extra voltage to make sure the additional 125 mhz is safe for all 7950s that went out. I also suspect the additional voltage includes room for the basic 100-125+mhz (I know some go higher) core increase thats been there for all HD 7800-7900 series.

Essentially there moving the bar/slider over for all 7950. A 7 month window since its release and just adding v0.05.

W1zzard didnt include overclockability this time but it might of brought more perspective.

If v0.05 increase is too much for you like some seam to sugguest in dramatic fashion there is always the option of undervolting on the new bios or a crazy idea dont use it.

I think AMD learned from the 7970 GHZ Edition roll-out and decided this is a smarter move. Just roll out the new 7950 off the line with the new adjusted core clock and just release a BIOS for the previous 7950s to bring them up to speed. Save time and money for both AMD and AIB partners. No need to spend extra cash on Marketing/Awareness and AIBs dont have to re-print there boxes and stickers for the cards. Much smarter move IMHO.

WarhammerTX · Aug 18, 2012, 12:30 AM

I updated my 7950 bios no problems it works just fine I was running 975/1450 anyway

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Aug 14, 2012, 02:15 PM	#27
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Aug 15, 2012, 12:12 AM	#33
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Aug 15, 2012, 01:33 AM	#34
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Aug 15, 2012, 03:14 AM	#35
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Aug 15, 2012, 03:43 PM	#40
Jstn7477 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA Posts: 3,134 (2.30/day) Thanks: 386 Thanked 1,191 Times in 805 Posts System Specs	It's a free power consumption increase as well unless you actually overclock it further. Voltage is quite high in this BIOS. __________________ Intel Crunchers (30 threads): 2x 3770K 4.3G (12t), 2600K 4G (6t), X3210 (3t), P-M 735A, P4 HT 3G AMD Crunchers (13 cores):1100T 3.6G (3t), 1045T 3.4G (2t), X3 8550 2.5G, X2 4400+ & 4200+, T64 ML-37 AMD Folders (6272 GCN cores): 2x 7950 1125/1475, 7970 1150/1650, 7770 NV Folders (2336 GF10x + 1344 GK104 cores):GTX 470 & 465 720/1715, 4x 460 768MB 825/2000, GTS 450, 660Ti 1228/6000 HEATWARE

Aug 15, 2012, 08:01 PM	#41
cou8 Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1 (0.00/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can i use this bios even if my hd 7950 can't do 900 mhz (890 mhz max)

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Aug 15, 2012, 09:13 PM	#43
Xzibit Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 608 (1.57/day) Thanks: 22 Thanked 95 Times in 74 Posts System Specs	I think the extra voltage throws off a lot of people. They have to provide the extra voltage to make sure the additional 125 mhz is safe for all 7950s that went out. I also suspect the additional voltage includes room for the basic 100-125+mhz (I know some go higher) core increase thats been there for all HD 7800-7900 series. Essentially there moving the bar/slider over for all 7950. A 7 month window since its release and just adding v0.05. W1zzard didnt include overclockability this time but it might of brought more perspective. If v0.05 increase is too much for you like some seam to sugguest in dramatic fashion there is always the option of undervolting on the new bios or a crazy idea dont use it. I think AMD learned from the 7970 GHZ Edition roll-out and decided this is a smarter move. Just roll out the new 7950 off the line with the new adjusted core clock and just release a BIOS for the previous 7950s to bring them up to speed. Save time and money for both AMD and AIB partners. No need to spend extra cash on Marketing/Awareness and AIBs dont have to re-print there boxes and stickers for the cards. Much smarter move IMHO.

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Aug 18, 2012, 12:30 AM	#44
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