Windows 8 Discussion.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

You got that a bit wrong, no I won't learn the new stuff that's against the logic of efficiency, multitasking performance and advanced convenience

................BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Kidding right?

[gopal]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

................BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Kidding right?

i guess he is not

[RuskiSnajper]

Originally Posted by gopal

i guess he is not

Yeah those that know me for some time, would come to the same conclusion.

Probably the biggest factor and most critical importance in how I tweak my win7 UI and feeling and the detail sorroundings is for the performance of clicks, i am used to click fast and run through to do things very fast around the desktop, the work that some mainstream guy would be doing for a day I make it in 2 hours or so.

There are several highlights:
mouse (can't work as fast without my mouse and my custom settings that im so used to)
taskbar animation lag (timeout tweakable in registery)
always-show-menus
show-extensions
context shortcuts
desktop icons
start search


The biggest point is to eliminate stuff that stops you from continuing from doing the next step, 90% of that the stupid UI settings and behavior, hidden menus, and crap like that.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper

You got that a bit wrong, no I won't learn the new stuff that's against the logic of efficiency, multitasking performance and advanced convenience, i will learn how and what I will create, most of the stuff i've seen in youtube videos are ridicolous touch-based eyesore mindless movements across the screen, nobody works like that, and the way UI works, feels fast but it also feels cheap and looks like everything's a web browser, I don't want the moblie-style behavior, i hate it, secondly, I can see from the frist pics what's wrong about it, the very important win7 "show desktop" button is missing in the taskbar - that's the first thing i'll be tweaking to get it enabled.

I've made the decision that I can save some of the data on my DVDs i've got 20 of them left empty, so i can make one partition empty, I will install win8 and the idea is to tweak the heck out of it, the stuff what works fine i will log everything and create guides for others to use the tweaks, but this is time consuming so don't expect stuff, there should be dedicated online sites for that as well as other people who have similar philosophy.

You are not going to do well in life if you are not able to unlearn and relearn things

[RuskiSnajper]

Wah just installed win8 and the whole desktop is THIS BIG GIANT font.

Everything's magnified in, like having low FOV, it's making me dizzy this needs to go away.


EDIT: Finally found the DPI settings, now we can begin, put my super config guide on my USB in and let's see how far we can get.

First Impression:

Good, because there actually is "show dekstop" button, but the way taskbar aero visuals work, it's invisible until you point the mouse to it.
HomeGroup isn't enabled by default, with the sharing enabled as home/work network at pre-install.
Recovery also isn't enabled by default
But pagefile is.

A new thing in crash dump called "automatic memory dump" maybe to be the best for the size of pagefile, as full dump needs a pagefile as large as total RAM or more, no idea why windows needs a pagefile for crahs dump, just recently found a win7 workaround called dedicateddumpfile but didn't implement the tweak yet as didn't had time.

Ofcourse the first mod tweak will be to bring back the start button, but first the necessary sys config, such as services, pagefile, uac ...etc




EDIT: That's more like it ... for starters:

[Drone]

Finally full, thorough review of Windows 8.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392889,00.asp

[gopal]

Windows 8's wrost is NO START BUTTON THE BIGGEST MINUS

[Chicken Patty]

So does it pretty much suck? I plan on reading through the tread when I'm home today from work, but I see nothing but negative comments on it.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

So does it pretty much suck? I plan on reading through the tread when I'm home today from work, but I see nothing but negative comments on it.

Because people hate change. It boots faster, more secure, and it rumored to be better with games (Better FPS) in the RTM. But no start button. Peoples first reaction OMG CHANGE I MUST HATE.

[gopal]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

So does it pretty much suck? I plan on reading through the tread when I'm home today from work, but I see nothing but negative comments on it.

As i said

Originally Posted by gopal

Okay i tried W8 on my P4 doesen't like it, it makes my Crunching slow.
SO i give W8 - 7/10
Cutted 3 points for
1) Slow Crunching i can Crunch faster on my W7
2)Kind a Cunfusing UI (2 points cutted for it).

[Dos101]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Because people hate change. It boots faster, more secure, and it rumored to be better with games (Better FPS) in the RTM. But no start button. Peoples first reaction OMG CHANGE I MUST HATE.

^this! I had MASSIVE reservations about it, but after using the consumer preview for a week, and now the RTM, I'm doing pretty much everything I normally do on my laptop in Windows 8 now and all these "issues' people keep bringing up about why Windows 8 sucks don't seem to be effecting my day-to-day productivity at all. I can boot into Win 8 much faster than 7, and it also gives me a nice little boot loader in case I do want to boot into 7 (currently triple booting Mac OS X, Win 7, and Win 8 on my MBP).

People wanted Microsoft to do something different and step more into the 21st century. They did it and now all people can do is complain. Some people will never be satisfied.

Also, here's a hands-on by Ars: http://arstechnica.com/information-t...perience-aint/

[Chicken Patty]

^ very good feedback guys, really appreciate it. I'm going to give it a go, then again even if it really was as bad, everybody is different. But yeah, change is usually not welcomed properly. I'll give it a go myself.

[H82LUZ73]

I have had it since it was on Technet Wednesday ,No problems yet just USER problems here.I have Origin running fine,BC2 installed worked,DeadSpace2 worked,MOH works.BFplayforFree works,Only waiting to reinstall BF3 because of ME yes me trying to run the install from backup and it failed on me
Just disable in Firefox your flash player and Web developer tools, it causes the crashes like someone said (MailMan? )in the BF3 clubhouse.
Cat12.8 plus cap3 works for me too.Only drivers i have installed and my video sound through HDMI worked right of the box(digital download)Just installing thing to test take time......Someone setup a Windows8 Clubhouse?

Originally Posted by Dos101

^this! I had MASSIVE reservations about it, but after using the consumer preview for a week, and now the RTM, I'm doing pretty much everything I normally do on my laptop in Windows 8 now and all these "issues' people keep bringing up about why Windows 8 sucks don't seem to be effecting my day-to-day productivity at all. I can boot into Win 8 much faster than 7, and it also gives me a nice little boot loader in case I do want to boot into 7 (currently triple booting Mac OS X, Win 7, and Win 8 on my MBP).

People wanted Microsoft to do something different and step more into the 21st century. They did it and now all people can do is complain. Some people will never be satisfied.

Also, here's a hands-on by Ars: http://arstechnica.com/information-t...perience-aint/

I don`t care what other`s say, I love Win8,It has that New feeling Win7 should have had,And i see in Win8 more faster load and boot times.Everyone that HATE`S 8 is mad for no START button get over it ...It is 2012 not 1985 when 3.11 work-groups came out.

[AphexDreamer]

Well if windows 8 is offering all these performance enhancements while remaining at least as stable as 7 then I'd switch over.

I'll wait to see some benchmark comparisons but reviews have aroused my attention.

[H82LUZ73]

Just too follow up BF3 is working I`m happy now to install some other programs Like Office2010-13 in few weeks.You guys should give Win8 a try,just cause it has Metro after your into desktop and play games you forget that is there.

[Drone]

Just installed RTM. Borders and icons look neat, some new sound effects and newer and faster IE10. That's lush, boot times are as quick as they come, even tho I give no shit about boot times. Enterprise 64 bit took ~ 12 GB of space.

[H82LUZ73]

Well this is something new(too me at least)I just setup my fourth hard Drive with Steam on it.Clicked the steam.exe for Steam,it ask to see if it was me..get the email type it in along with my password,Guess what it runs,just ran Counter Strike Source without a hitch,The best part s I NEVER INSTALLED THE PROGRAM.....Win8 rocks.

[MyTechAddiction]

Steam is portable.Had the same experience here on win 7 x64

[MyTechAddiction]

In my experience with W8 it is faster than W7 .I tested With cinebench11.5 against a w7 and xp and W8 is as fast as Xp is.All OS were run in Wmvare Player.

[Chicken Patty]

Looks like I'll be installing RTM this weekend. Thanks for the info guys.

[Dos101]

Originally Posted by H82LUZ73

Someone setup a Windows8 Clubhouse?

Ask and ye shall receive http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=170632

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

Looks like I'll be installing RTM this weekend. Thanks for the info guys.

You have a Technet?

[Chicken Patty]

Bah, not RTM, whichever one I got off Microsofts website, RC1 I think...? Been on my desktop for a while waiting to be put on a CD.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by Chicken Patty

Bah, not RTM, whichever one I got off Microsofts website, RC1 I think...? Been on my desktop for a while waiting to be put on a CD.

Ah ok the preview. Download the new one man. They updated it a few days ago.

[Chicken Patty]

Really? Good to know, I'll download it when I get home, want to see if I give it a shot sometime this weekend.