Windows 8 Graphics Performance

[erocker]

Completely disagree (other than smaller footprint), but whatever. Enjoy your Windows 8 I guess.

[Dos101]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Smaller footprint, more secure, faster boot and shut down, runs beta drivers and goes toe to toe with a mature OS, ties main OS with all your mobile devices........yet no start button so it must be fail.

Common sense is not so common.

You can add better battery life for laptops/tablets to the list as well.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by erocker

Completely disagree (other than smaller footprint), but whatever. Enjoy your Windows 8 I guess.

How can you disagree with facts? It IS faster. It IS more secure. These are undeniable facts. Like your love for our child Mailrocker.

[popswala]

Battery life may only pertain to your mid grades as gaming don't last long at all. My m17x last prob lil over an hour on a 9cell running sli and discrete during gaming. so saying to switch os's cuase you mite gain a few more mins in battery life is really pointless. if battery life is important. carry around an extra battery already charged.

Having the same GUI across all systems is something I don't like. If you have a desktop, laptop, ipad, iphone. Really WTF? If your mobile alot all you need is a ipad for everything.

It sounds to me you saying a pc is a xbox. Go say that in the game section and get flamed.

How much faster do you need running ssd's in raid 0 with just an os installed and apps on seperate drive? If your complaining you can't use your pc in 3 secs somethings wrong lol.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by popswala

Battery life may only pertain to your mid grades as gaming don't last long at all. My m17x last prob lil over an hour on a 9cell running sli and discrete during gaming. so saying to switch os's cuase you mite gain a few more mins in battery life is really pointless. if battery life is important. carry around an extra battery already charged.

Having the same GUI across all systems is something I don't like. If you have a desktop, laptop, ipad, iphone. Really WTF? If your mobile alot all you need is a ipad for everything.

It sounds to me you saying a pc is a xbox. Go say that in the game section and get flamed.

How much faster do you need running ssd's in raid 0 with just an os installed and apps on seperate drive? If your complaining you can't use your pc in 3 secs somethings wrong lol.

Who needs a car when I have a healthy horse and carriage. Lots of forward thinking around here.

[trickson]

Originally Posted by erocker

What's the point? There is absolutely no reason at all to switch from Windows 7 to Windows 8 on a PC. None. Zero, regardless of UI.

I agree 1 million percent. I would find it a down grade myself as the User Interface (UI) is just what I want and need. And I find this one just plain and lackluster and blah. The average PC user and gamer will love it. Real PC gamers will not mes with it.

[trickson]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Skill of what? Cluttering their desktop? They have been trying that for 20 years.....it hasn't worked. People still use a computer about to the same level as a toaster oven.

LOL NOW that is the truth!

[iLLz]

Im using Windows 8 and so far I can tell you it is much more resource efficient. Idling at the desktop my RAM usage is at 1.1 to 1.4 GB of Physical RAM. Compare that to my Windows 7 usage, which was at 2.0 - 3.0 GB of Physical RAM depending on how long the system was up and running. Quite the difference if you ask me.

Also, if you sign in with your LIVE Account, then any settings and preferences you have setup with carry over to other PCs that you log into with said account. There is options to setup and login with local accounts.

Another tip I wanted to share that I learned the other day is if you are at the Desktop you can drag the mouse to any of the four corners to pull up the Charms menu. The left side, bottom of the screen with popup with the Start Screen and if you left click it, will take you back to the start screen, but if you RIGHT CLICK it, a context menu will appear with most if not all of the common tasks or places any power user will need to go:

Programs and Features
Power Options
Event Viewer
System
Device Manager
Disk Management
Computer Management
Command Prompt
Command Prompt (Admin)

Task Manager
Control Panel
File Explorer
Search
Run

Desktop

Right Clicking the bottom left hand side of the screen is a big help and is kind of like a start menu for those who need it.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by trickson

LOL NOW that is the truth!

And yet you double post.

[trickson]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

And yet you double post.



http://img.techpowerup.org/120821/Untitled417.jpg

Yeah I seen that. LOL.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

How can you disagree with facts? It IS faster. It IS more secure. These are undeniable facts. Like your love for our child Mailrocker.

Have fun with it.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by erocker

What's the point? There is absolutely no reason at all to switch from Windows 7 to Windows 8 on a PC. None. Zero, regardless of UI.

it depends on the user. Dave has explained this to me when I gave shit to mailman about being a stability nazi. What Mailman does with his system requires it to be stable and working 100% of the time, which is why he talks so highly of win 8 because it is a better OS for what he does with his machine. For people like you or I it may not be something we really need to put on our systems. Just depends on the users point of view, and what they need out of their system.

Originally Posted by erocker

Completely disagree (other than smaller footprint), but whatever. Enjoy your Windows 8 I guess.

it is faster and far more secure. I recommend you try it for atleast a day.

[badtaylorx]

id like to see this done on an FX cpu just for shitz and grinz

[james888]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

And now Windows Phones, Tablets and Computers will all have the same GUI. Learn one, learn them all. Its the future.

I can see the beneifits of having one gui for everything. I don't want a one size fits all GUI though. If I have a desktop I want a desktop GUI. If I have a tablet I want a tablet GUI. If I have a phone... They shouldn't be completely different GUI's, but just optimized to be the most effect GUI for that platform.

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Teach people not to be stupid? Um yeah are you new here? No the best path to success is to make things idiot proof. Apple is a trend setter in this aspect.

What about the people who don't need and or want a ui that is built for the lowest common denominator?

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Who needs a car when I have a healthy horse and carriage. Lots of forward thinking around here.

If 99% of the time I stayed within 10 miles of my home, then sure keep the horse and rent a car when you need one. You could even make a eco friendly argument on that one. I ride my bicycle if my destination is within 5 miles and I don't need the cargo space.

Originally Posted by badtaylorx

id like to see this done on an FX cpu just for shitz and grinz

I would like to see some allocation of system resources benchmarks. Especially cpu benchmarks. A gpu is only part of the picture.

[grok23]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Who needs a car when I have a healthy horse and carriage. Lots of forward thinking around here.

More like lots of people who are used to dealing with the ways of Redmond.

IF, you've dealt with them long enough, you know that you don't move your important stuff onto a new Windows OS until it's at the very least on the first service pack and you should be wary of doing it, even then, if it really is a brand new version of Windows altogether and it's coming after a good one. Windows users are already used to skipping entire OS refreshes at times (see Windows Millenium Edition & Vista). Most businesses I've worked for and had contact with did it with Vista and it's probably fair to say that most home users who bought Vista only got it because it came pre-installed with their new machines.

The business I work for has only just finished moving the last of their Windows machines onto 7 and will definitely not be going down the 8 route in any great hurry at all, if ever (we'll see what happens when 9 arrives). TBH, aside from a few dev boxes we use to test stuff with, two of which have had 8 on them for varying lengths of time, the rest of the company will most likely never see 8 installed at all, other than on their home/mobile devices, as there is no need or call for it and it's just another cost against the IT department.

I've been running a Windows 8 box at home myself for some time, as I do need to keep myself abreast of these things, even if I would never choose to install it for my own use. 8 is interesting to me, because it's different, shiny and new, but that's about where the love ends for it on a proper PC for me (mobile devices are another matter altogether, as I can see the point with them). I've tried running it on both my gaming rigs at home, but quickly removed it, as at the time the Metro UI just would not work properly on my multi-monitor 5760 x 1200 setups. It's currently been relegated to my kitchen PC, as has my only touch screen monitor.

I will continue to play and tinker with it myself and no doubt will end up using it more with some mobile devices in the next year or two, but I still fail to see any good reason to jump to it quickly or to recommend it to anybody as an upgrade from 7.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by james888

I can see the beneifits of having one gui for everything. I don't want a one size fits all GUI though. If I have a desktop I want a desktop GUI. If I have a tablet I want a tablet GUI. If I have a phone... They shouldn't be completely different GUI's, but just optimized to be the most effect GUI for that platform.


What about the people who don't need and or want a ui that is built for the lowest common denominator?


If 99% of the time I stayed within 10 miles of my home, then sure keep the horse and rent a car when you need one. You could even make a eco friendly argument on that one. I ride my bicycle if my destination is within 5 miles and I don't need the cargo space.

You might want that, but fact of the matter is that streamlining the UIs across the devices is the future. Apple has been trying to do that ever since the iphone and ipad came out and you can see the similarities between them a lot more these days.

[trickson]

Originally Posted by YoungSh4vah216

it is faster and far more secure. I recommend you try it for atleast a day.

Not from what I have seen first hand it suck , Really who thought of this? It is shit for and OS for a computer. This is tablet/phone OS. Looks like crap the UI has been totally screwed up. The little things that make us love and hate it are all there. You do not have to buy it and I am not going to. MS can put out any thing they like, If I do not like it I will not buy it. I do not even own a dumb phone or any table computers. No I can do without all that crap.

[james888]

Originally Posted by YoungSh4vah216

You might want that, but fact of the matter is that streamlining the UIs across the devices is the future. Apple has been trying to do that ever since the iphone and ipad came out and you can see the similarities between them a lot more these days.

I articulated what I want as well I should of. Apples Os's are very similar across platforms right. Not identical though right? I am actually asking because I only use an apple product once in a blue moon. If think the idea of cross platform gui is great. Makes it so people don't have to learn a new gui every time. I am just wanting optimization. Phones and tablets are great with a touch screen. Tweak their gui a little for that. Desktops are best with a mouse and keyboard, and even touch pads. Tweak their gui a little for that. With the exceptions of those tweaks have them be almost identical.

The last time I used mac laptop it felt very natural with a mouse and keyboard. Windows 8 did not when I tried it.

[MxPhenom 216]

Originally Posted by trickson

Not from what I have seen first hand it suck , Really who thought of this? It is shit for and OS for a computer. This is tablet/phone OS. Looks like crap the UI has been totally screwed up. The little things that make us love and hate it are all there. You do not have to buy it and I am not going to. MS can put out any thing they like, If I do not like it I will not buy it. I do not even own a dumb phone or any table computers. No I can do without all that crap.

What build were you using, and im not talking about just gaming right now.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by YoungSh4vah216

it is faster and far more secure. I recommend you try it for atleast a day.

I have a technet account. I've tried it for well more than a day. I'm not a fan... at all. I even know how to get around in the new UI. It is horrible.

[TheMailMan78]

Get used to it or move to OSX or Linux. Stick with Windows 7 and when Windows 9 comes out it will be THAT much harder to learn.

Originally Posted by erocker

I have a technet account. I've tried it for well more than a day. I'm not a fan... at all. I even know how to get around in the new UI. It is horrible.

Sounds like a good argument. I don't understand it so it must be horrible. I like this attitude. I'm gonna use it all through my life.

[erocker]

No, I think I'll wait for Microsoft to learn from their mistake and implement a proper "classic" interface... Which they will do, I have no doubt. Besides you obviously didn't read my entire post. I know how to use Windows 8. You people sound like Microsoft shills. Well, Mr. Youngshaver is for sure, you... Just trollin as usual. I can't take you seriously on this forum. Sorry.

[Hamlet]

Nice job Wizard, yet one big question remains unanswered:
Is this the DirectX10 fiasco all over again?

Reminder: When Vista came out, Microsoft forced everyone who wanted DirectX10 to upgrade to Vista, because they wouldn't want it to be backwards compatible as an incentive to push Vista sales.
Now we could have history repeating all over again with the next version of DirectX.

As I was enrolled as a student at that time, it was easy for me to take some time and test Vista, yet I quickly found it to be horrible and never used it until Windows 7 came out.

[james888]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Get used to it or move to OSX or Linux. Stick with Windows 7 and when Windows 9 comes out it will be THAT much harder to learn.

Not being able to use it and not enjoying it are two different things. When a Gui is good you forget about it, and just use it.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by erocker

No, I think I'll wait for Microsoft to learn from their mistake and implement a proper "classic" interface... Which they will do, I have no doubt. Besides you obviously didn't read my entire post. I know how to use Windows 8. You people sound like Microsoft shills. Well, Mr. Youngshaver is for sure, you... Just trollin as usual. I can't take you seriously on this forum. Sorry.

I don't think you take much of anything seriously.

Originally Posted by james888

Not being able to use it and not enjoying it are two different things. When a Gui is good you forget about it, and just use it.

Not true. Going from OSX to XP made me do a LOT of thinking. But the hard work paid off. Hell I'm still learning!