PowerColor HD 7990 Devil 13 6144 MB

[ArchStupid]

Compared to the 690GTX it has:
- Higher temperature
- Noisier cooler
- About 10% lower performance
- Higher power consumption
- Triple slot cooler compared to dual slot
- Same price
- Serious problem with the cooler mounting system
- No advantages

I guess 8.5 means something different on TPU.

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by qubit

Yes, that's basically the point I'm making. There's no way they'd make a dumb mistake like that by design.

I'd be inclined to agree...except for the incident with the reference HD 6970 where the 8-pin PCIE plug was ghetto modded (manually shaved) to allow for fan clearance

[qubit]

Originally Posted by ArchStupid

Compared to the 690GTX it has:
- Higher temperature
- Noisier cooler
- About 10% lower performance
- Higher power consumption
- Triple slot cooler compared to dual slot
- Same price
- Serious problem with the cooler mounting system
- No advantages

I guess 8.5 means something different on TPU.

Good points and I did wonder about that score myself. What score would you give it, then?

As I said in an earlier post, I wouldn't hold that cooler issue against it though, as it would have been a one-off manufacturing fault from using the wrong screws.

Originally Posted by HumanSmoke

I'd be inclined to agree...except for the incident with the reference HD 6970 where the 8-pin PCIE plug was ghetto modded (manually shaved) to allow for fan clearance

Couldn't find it. Where was it in the review?

[Nihilus]

Literally broke right out of the box. When crossfire works it is near perfect, but there is just too many times when it doesn't

Originally Posted by qubit

So, the 690 is better. No surprise there. I'd really like to see a card on the AMD side properly trounce its competition from nvidia. We'd get so much more for our money then.

Hd 7870 vs ? Hd 7850 vs ? Those two win by default. Hd 7750 >>>>>>>>> GT 640

Originally Posted by Lionheart

My AMD fanboyish side would like to favor the HD7990 but I would still go with the GTX 690

Dito. Still a shame that asus didn't go through with the 7870x2. PICARIN IS THE BETTER CHIP!
Instead we get this triple slot, poor overclocking, high power drawing, broke piece of crap.

[happita]

Originally Posted by qubit

Good points and I did wonder about that score myself. What score would you give it, then?

As I said in an earlier post, I wouldn't hold that cooler issue against it though, as it would have been a one-off manufacturing fault from using the wrong screws.

Poor QA on their part. They are supposed to "show off" their best, instead 1 slips through the cracks, and that being 1 of the review samples that is supposed to speak highly of their ridiculously expensive creation! Shame on Powercolor. I think the score should've been more like a 7.0, but that's just me, I'm like an asshole...I have an opinion But I'm sure with some proper drivers, it's true colors will show, its just garbage right now.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by happita

I'm like an asshole...I have an opinion

Yup, they messed up.

You cracked me up with that line, dude.

[PopcornMachine]

Pricing of the PowerColor Devil 13 is $999, with limited volume available.

I think you got that price upside down. Shouldn't it be $666.

[HumanSmoke]

Originally Posted by qubit

Couldn't find it. Where was it in the review?

I just linked the TPU review cos I wanted the site to get an extra page hit or two.
...not really. The bottom left hand PCB pic was widely circulated when the design fault came to light. Some reviews mentioned the issue -but since I'm too lazy to sift through HD 6970 reviews, here's the XS thread.
Nice close up here.

[Cool Mike]

I have been waiting to purchase the Devil 13. I believe they are in transit to retailers now. Newegg for sure. Having Doubts now! This is their premier card and they send a defective card to a well regarded reviewer? How was this card even properly tested at the factory?
I hope this is a one time occurance.

[qubit]

Originally Posted by Cool Mike

I have been waiting to purchase the Devil 13. I believe they are in transit to retailers now. Newegg for sure. Having Doubts now! This is their premier card and they send a defective card to a well regarded reviewer? How was this card even properly tested at the factory?
I hope this is a one time occurance.

You want to buy it?

Just look at what you lose out on:

Originally Posted by ArchStupid

Compared to the 690GTX it has:
- Higher temperature
- Noisier cooler
- About 10% lower performance
- Higher power consumption
- Triple slot cooler compared to dual slot
- Same price
- Serious problem with the cooler mounting system
- No advantages

I guess 8.5 means something different on TPU.

Do you still want to buy it? No one else does and those reasons are why. I'd only forgive it for the dodgy cooler, as I'm sure it's a one-off as I've explained above, as embarrassing as this is.

Seriously, get a single GPU card or a GTX 690 if you've got that kind of money. Don't waste it on this.

[Durvelle27]

or wait till AMD officially releases the HD 7990

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by qubit

Do you still want to buy it? No one else does and those reasons are why. I'd only forgive it for the dodgy cooler, as I'm sure it's a one-off as I've explained above, as embarrassing as this is.

Seriously, get a single GPU card or a GTX 690 if you've got that kind of money. Don't waste it on this.

Hey sometimes your just brand loyal. I mean it is pretty high quality part, they didn't skimp on the components anywhere(cooler SNAFU aside) It overclocks fairly well which does put it ahead again. If I was buying a Dual GPU card I would still go for this over a 690

I forgot to ask. W1zzard did you happen to test the ASIC quality on the chips? I don't recall seeing it in the review(or I just missed it)

[qubit]

Originally Posted by INSTG8R

Hey sometimes your just brand loyal. I mean it is pretty high quality part, they didn't skimp on the components anywhere(cooler SNAFU aside) It overclocks fairly well which does put it ahead again. If I was buying a Dual GPU card I would still go for this over a 690

I forgot to ask. W1zzard did you happen to test the ASIC quality on the chips? I don't recall seeing it in the review(or I just missed it)

Yes, it does overclock well, so it'll be good for hardcore overclockers. But for general use, the 690 looks better.

Yup, it does sound like brand loyalty, lol.

[BigMack70]

They needed this to be priced around the $800 mark to make a real impact... $1000 pricing is fail - why would you get this over a 690 or better yet 7970 crossfire (if going AMD)?

Also as a 7970 xfire user, I can definitely say that AMD needs to step up their multi-GPU driver support. Their single card support is near-flawless, but multi-GPU just isn't there. There's just too many situations where crossfire is broken or half-broken. Maybe the release of this card will help them fix that?

[BigMack70]

Originally Posted by ArchStupid

Compared to the 690GTX it has:
- Higher temperature
- Noisier cooler
- About 10% lower performance
- Higher power consumption
- Triple slot cooler compared to dual slot
- Same price
- Serious problem with the cooler mounting system
- No advantages

I guess 8.5 means something different on TPU.

It's a good deal faster than the 690 when the drivers are working properly.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by BigMack70

They needed this to be priced around the $800 mark to make a real impact... $1000 pricing is fail - why would you get this over a 690 or better yet 7970 crossfire (if going AMD)?

Also as a 7970 xfire user, I can definitely say that AMD needs to step up their multi-GPU driver support. Their single card support is near-flawless, but multi-GPU just isn't there. There's just too many situations where crossfire is broken or half-broken. Maybe the release of this card will help them fix that?

Im sure since they are working on the single card configs and getting them that way, they will then work on multi card configs, but remember motherboard drivers come into play too

[Cool Mike]

My preference is AMD. Long time customer. Hope to see another review or two soon. If they are like this review I will not purchase. I owned a Powercolor 6870X2 and worked flawlessly.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by Cool Mike

My preference is AMD. Long time customer. Hope to see another review or two soon. If they are like this review I will not purchase. I owned a Powercolor 6870X2 and worked flawlessly.

just stick with what you got right now.

[KainXS]

damn even im suprised by how bad it runs, 7970 CF smokes this.

[SIGSEGV]

i wonder why this review wasn't using extensives antialiasing while benching it in most games. unfortunately this card performances is lower around 10% based on this reviews compared with competition. i hope amd will optimizing their driver especially on cf performances

[Lionheart]

Originally Posted by PopcornMachine

I think you got that price upside down. Shouldn't it be $666.

Agreed Also that price goes well with the marketing name of the card

[N3M3515]

Drivers fail....
Why wasn't it tested with the turbo bios? is it already ?

[kadeep]

hardwareheeven use 12.8 driver

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

TPU with 12.7 beta driver that not support this card
they should retest it with proper driver
not show junk like this

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by kadeep

hardwareheeven use 12.8 driver

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

shame on TPU with 12.7 beta driver that not support this card
they should retest it with proper driver
not show junk like this

While I agree the latest 12.8's should have been used. In all fairness this is a "one off" card. I would be surprised if there were actually any inf's for this specific card in the 12.8s anyway.

[entropy13]

Originally Posted by kadeep

hardwareheeven use 12.8 driver

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/review...roduction.html

TPU with 12.7 beta driver that not support this card
they should retest it with proper driver
not show junk like this

Hardware Heaven's CPU: i7 3960X
TPU's CPU: i7 3770K

BF3 in Hardware Heaven at 1920x1080 - avg. FPS of 114FPS
BF3 in TPU at 1920x1200 (slightly larger resolution) - avg. FPS of 126FPS



Difference in FPS in the multi-monitor resolution boils down on the CPUs used and not on the drivers. The other games are not used in the TPU review so I don't think there's a comparison to be made there. The Diablo 3 numbers are weird for the Hardware Heaven review since it's also maxed out in TPU yet the avg. FPS are much higher for the TPU review.