cdawall's SG05-B redux

cdawall · Sep 2, 2012, 06:34 PM

This is a carry on from this thread were I was trying to water cool my entire mini ITX build. Well I decided I would try and stuff everything in and around my SG05-B.

The original build looked a bit like this.

Original Specs

Intel Core I3 560ES
GSkill Tridents 2x2GB 2000CL9
Gigabyte H55N-USB3
Zotac 9800GT Eco
FSP 300w SFX

The current specs

Intel Xeon 3440
GSkill Tridents 2x2GB 2000CL9
Gigabyt H55N-USB3
PNY GTX470
Silversone 450w SFX

Now onto the case...For some reason Silverstone never intended for anyone to mount dual 120mm rad's in their case (jerks) so some minor modifications are being made to make do.

Some temp fitting inside of the case.

Hard mounting the rads

I want to mount the radiator external for one I think it will look cool and for two there is not enough room to easily mount it. Now looking at that should I run some thick black tubing (I have some rubber 3/8" power steering tubing that would look kind of cool) or clear or what? I decided to mount the res in a different spot. Need some angled 3/8" barbs now.

cadaveca · Sep 2, 2012, 07:50 PM

Will be interesting to see what you gonna come up with.

Remove the spoiler tags and show off the pics!

cdawall · Sep 2, 2012, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Will be interesting to see what you gonna come up with.

Remove the spoiler tags and show off the pics!

I guess I could do that...

That tubing and those connectors for the res?

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=30683

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=23354

cdawall · Sep 3, 2012, 01:03 AM

Stupid grey gone.

Anything else I should be looking at getting?

popswala · Sep 3, 2012, 01:22 AM

Gonna be kinda sweet to see how this comes along. That is a tiny case for what what all you wana do.

off topic, You know your going back over? I was army MP. How many yrs you got in? rank?

cdawall · Sep 3, 2012, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by popswala

Gonna be kinda sweet to see how this comes along. That is a tiny case for what what all you wana do.

Thanks I am excited to see how it turns out. This will be my first shot at doing cables and making them pretty

. Along with the fancy tuning etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by popswala

off topic, You know your going back over? I was army MP. How many yrs you got in? rank?

Januaryish, been in about three and Sra.

popswala · Sep 3, 2012, 02:45 AM

Take your time on the cables. That sure can be time consuming.

Good luck when you leave. Definitely keep in touch. I spent alot of time on TPU when I was over (Iraq '09).

cdawall · Sep 3, 2012, 04:33 AM

Case is assembled and painted. I am just waiting on parts now. Still haven't ordered the parts from frozen yet.

JrRacinFan · Sep 3, 2012, 04:39 AM

What fan you running on that rad? You sure it can keep up with static pressure of running it sandwiched on both? Otherwise, awesome work C. Can't wait to see the finished product. Friendly tip, try for some 90* barbs on the pump..

cdawall · Sep 3, 2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

What fan you running on that rad? You sure it can keep up with static pressure of running it sandwiched on both? Otherwise, awesome work C. Can't wait to see the finished product. Friendly tip, try for some 90* barbs on the pump..

I shouldn't need 90 degree barbs with the Apogee drive II pump/block combo thing...

Right now there is just a Antec trispeed inbetween the rad's I am looking into what fan I should have in the middle. I have a set of yate loon high speeds I can use if this one wont cut the mustard. Plan is to use the onboard fan control again like I did with the ultra kaze. No noise until you need it.

Other thing should I look into a set of 1TB notebook drives?

Refurbished: Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD10TPVT...

$70 a pop in raid 0 would be quite nice AFAIC.

That's what all I am looking at from frozen...anyone have any other tips? concerns?

JrRacinFan · Sep 3, 2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

Other thing should I look into a set of 1TB notebook drives?

Refurbished: Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD10TPVT...

$70 a pop in raid 0 would be quite nice AFAIC.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120903/Capture021.jpg

That's what all I am looking at from frozen...anyone have any other tips? concerns?

Didn't know you were getting the apogee drive. Sorry. Think it will hold up with adding the GPU? $140 eh? What's your current drive setup?

cdawall · Sep 3, 2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Didn't know you were getting the apogee drive. Sorry. Think it will hold up with adding the GPU? $140 eh? What's your current drive setup?

The apogee drive has my old ddc1t in it so it should hold up fine. Current drive setup is a 1.5tb esata and breaking up my raid for a ssd.

JrRacinFan · Sep 3, 2012, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

breaking up my raid for a ssd.

Sorry, i have a bad memory as of late. If you're already doing an ssd and breaking up a raid, if you really need the drives to show up as one volume just do a spanned windows dynamic volume unless you need to dual boot for any reason.

cdawall · Sep 3, 2012, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Sorry, i have a bad memory as of late. If you're already doing an ssd and breaking up a raid, if you really need the drives to show up as one volume just do a spanned windows dynamic volume unless you need to dual boot for any reason.

Well that's my thing if I buy the 1Tb's I wont break the ssd's up or add the 1.5tb external. Will simply run the 2x1tb drives in raid 0. All internally the case

JrRacinFan · Sep 3, 2012, 05:35 AM

I would just go the SSD route, adding it to your current setup.

cdawall · Sep 7, 2012, 08:07 PM

Got the block in today.

It gets a little close but isn't touching

This one ends up being a little bit taller since I used a DDC1T

Again close but not touching

m1dg3t · Sep 7, 2012, 09:21 PM

WOW! Didn't know they made shoehorns that size! Good job getting it all in there

Those APD2 pumps are going to make a lot of loops possible that wouldn't otherwise be and/or they are gonna make loops a lot cleaner. i just wish the base or "housing" was more conducive to performance/flow as the port ID is 1/4" i think, would be nice to have them @ 3/8" at least. Maybe they did it on purpose to keep pressures up?

cdawall · Sep 7, 2012, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m1dg3t

WOW! Didn't know they made shoehorns that size! Good job getting it all in there

Those APD2 pumps are going to make a lot of loops possible that wouldn't otherwise be and/or they are gonna make loops a lot cleaner. i just wish the base or "housing" was more conducive to performance/flow as the port ID is 1/4" i think, would be nice to have them @ 3/8" at least. Maybe they did it on purpose to keep pressures up?

Yup it's a little cramped...

cdawall · Sep 11, 2012, 06:10 PM

Got the red CCFL's in dual 40mm ones.

m1dg3t · Sep 20, 2012, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdawall

Yup it's a little cramped...

lol You can say that again! I really am surprised you got that much stuffed in there

You got a lot less room to work with then me and lots more modding too! I got off easy with this latest build

cdawall · Sep 20, 2012, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by m1dg3t

lol You can say that again! I really am surprised you got that much stuffed in there

You got a lot less room to work with then me and lots more modding too! I got off easy with this latest build

Yup I do I am thinking I want a different gpu for it as well. Can't decide what but it has to have a full cover block available. Maybe a 7850 or something.

INSTG8R · Sep 20, 2012, 02:26 AM

Thanks for posting this up CD. Damned impressed on what you have managed to cram into that tiny box.

mediasorcerer · Sep 20, 2012, 02:33 AM

Im impressed too, thats incredible!! Love the idea of small space high performance, well done!! Thanx for posting up, really interesting and inspiring.

cdawall · Sep 20, 2012, 02:51 AM

Thanks shouldn't be much longer before its full assembled. Goal is to have the Xeon cranked out to 3.8ghz since 4.2 smoked the board. Along with some form of overclocked vga. 7850 would be cool for eyefinity.

m1dg3t · Sep 20, 2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cdawall

Yup I do I am thinking I want a different gpu for it as well. Can't decide what but it has to have a full cover block available. Maybe a 7850 or something.

Why not a 6 series Nvidia? IIRC their "mid level" cards are physically smaller and still perform on par, if not better, then ATi

Don't get me wrong the 7850 is a freaking beast of a card from what i have seen and if you can swing it, fockin' wing it!

FC blocks aren't for me, i prefer die only for some reason. I just wish i didn't get the run around from people regarding stock levels. It's in stock untill you pay then it magically is backordered for 3 weeks

Sep 2, 2012, 06:34 PM	#1
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.43/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	cdawall's SG05-B redux This is a carry on from this thread were I was trying to water cool my entire mini ITX build. Well I decided I would try and stuff everything in and around my SG05-B. The original build looked a bit like this. Original Specs Intel Core I3 560ES GSkill Tridents 2x2GB 2000CL9 Gigabyte H55N-USB3 Zotac 9800GT Eco FSP 300w SFX The current specs Intel Xeon 3440 GSkill Tridents 2x2GB 2000CL9 Gigabyt H55N-USB3 PNY GTX470 Silversone 450w SFX Now onto the case...For some reason Silverstone never intended for anyone to mount dual 120mm rad's in their case (jerks) so some minor modifications are being made to make do. Some temp fitting inside of the case. Hard mounting the rads I want to mount the radiator external for one I think it will look cool and for two there is not enough room to easily mount it. Now looking at that should I run some thick black tubing (I have some rubber 3/8" power steering tubing that would look kind of cool) or clear or what? I decided to mount the res in a different spot. Need some angled 3/8" barbs now. __________________ Last edited by cdawall; Sep 2, 2012 at 07:52 PM.

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cadaveca My name is Dave Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 10,768 (4.15/day) Thanks: 4,483 Thanked 5,192 Times in 3,199 Posts System Specs	Will be interesting to see what you gonna come up with. Remove the spoiler tags and show off the pics! __________________ Gadgets, Phones, Tablets, Cameras, TVs, HiFi...NextPowerUp -Only real men play games THIS way.

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Sep 3, 2012, 01:03 AM	#4
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.43/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	Stupid grey gone. Anything else I should be looking at getting? __________________ Last edited by cdawall; Sep 3, 2012 at 01:10 AM.

Sep 3, 2012, 01:22 AM	#5
popswala Join Date: May 2009 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,188 (1.51/day) Thanks: 1,602 Thanked 960 Times in 717 Posts System Specs	Gonna be kinda sweet to see how this comes along. That is a tiny case for what what all you wana do. off topic, You know your going back over? I was army MP. How many yrs you got in? rank?

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Sep 3, 2012, 02:45 AM	#7
popswala Join Date: May 2009 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 2,188 (1.51/day) Thanks: 1,602 Thanked 960 Times in 717 Posts System Specs	Take your time on the cables. That sure can be time consuming. Good luck when you leave. Definitely keep in touch. I spent alot of time on TPU when I was over (Iraq '09). __________________ HEAT eBAY My Sale Thread FOLDING GTX 460 SC x2 / 6950 / GTX 275 CRUNCHING I7 870 4.08GHz/ I3 530 3.7GHz / Ph II X4 945 3.2GHzz / Ph II X4 940 3.4GHz / Ph II X3 720 3.4GHz / i7 720QM 1.60GHz = [21c/31t]

Sep 3, 2012, 04:33 AM	#8
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.43/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	Case is assembled and painted. I am just waiting on parts now. Still haven't ordered the parts from frozen yet. __________________

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Sep 7, 2012, 08:07 PM	#16
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.43/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	Got the block in today. It gets a little close but isn't touching This one ends up being a little bit taller since I used a DDC1T Again close but not touching __________________

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Sep 20, 2012, 02:51 AM	#24
cdawall where the hell are my stars Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: some AF base Posts: 16,021 (6.43/day) Thanks: 457 Thanked 2,753 Times in 2,222 Posts System Specs	Thanks shouldn't be much longer before its full assembled. Goal is to have the Xeon cranked out to 3.8ghz since 4.2 smoked the board. Along with some form of overclocked vga. 7850 would be cool for eyefinity. __________________

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