Atom/Nvidia-Ion Choppy Video...Need Help

[Solaris17]

Wow lot of free king out in this thread. DDD what kind of comment is that? Seriously?

Lets try this.

1. Fresh install of your choice of codecs.
2. Delete everything in the temp and prefetch folders.
3. Set your page file to 4096.
4. Change your disk parameters to disable disk caching to improve perfoamce.
5. Now disable indexing.
6. Now reboot and try again.

Ram? Ya you could use some. But the issue here isn't ion/CPU problem. It's easy to think it is but I'm a system were the hardware CAN do it and isn't you need to focus on the sandbag and not what the system SHOULD consist of. He is trying to read write and cache hi-def video we need to focus on HDD performance and work our way up. Come on TPU what happened to teamwork and the PROCESS? No one cares if your right or not only that the OP problem is RESOLVED. At least that was the unspoken system 5 years ago.

[de.das.dude]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

Wow lot of free king out in this thread. DDD what kind of comment is that? Seriously?.

i was sleepy. im sorry

[Mussels]

in MPC-HC, try setting the renderer to 2D overlay. it will disable aero, might help.


trying to get HD playback on an atom is not going to end well. I know this for a fact, because i have had many, many atom systems (mostly without ION) and while they can play basic 720p files 'ok', they really struggle with anything extra on top (positional subtitles, 10 bit video, etc)


IF you can get ION working to hardware accelerate the video, it tends to work ok (and 256MB is more than enough ram for that). the problem is that so few codecs can actually be hardware accelerated.

[OneMoar]

<3 mussels
the atom is basicly a stripped down cpu low clock speed hardly anything for cache
tldr a pentium 4 is faster
you need to have video acceleration or you will get nothing but trouble

[blackcat54]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

its has nothing todo with the am mount of ram or ram disks he has For fucks sake people quit talking out your ass hes cpu limited atoms are SLOW and I am sure the codecs arent configured properly
start over
1. remove all media players codecs and crap from the system
2. clean install coreAVC and MPC-HC
3.open MPC-hcs options and set the output to http://cl.ly/JDSl
4. then goto the filters tab and uncheck everything on the right handside http://cl.ly/JCE0
this setup will decode 720p h264 HIGH on a 2.2Ghz AMD 2700+ running windows xp with 64MB of on-board video (note the atom is a little weaker because its clocked slower so make sure you are using threaded decode (doesnt apply to coreavc >ffmpeg)
sorry I sound like a ass but dam people get your heads on strait or don't post

Did as instructed above.

Nada!

Stuttering still there.

"make sure you are using threaded decode" Not sure what this means.

[blackcat54]

I switched the video output from HDMI to VGA and the stuttering disappeared.

Is this a clue to something?

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by blackcat54

I switched the video output from HDMI to VGA and the stuttering disappeared.

Is this a clue to something?

it could be. on HDMI, try 59Hz refresh rate instead of 60.

[blackcat54]

Still stuttering @59Hz.

[mastrdrver]

Originally Posted by OneMoar

<3 mussels
the atom is basicly a stripped down cpu low clock speed hardly anything for cache
tldr a pentium 4 is faster
you need to have video acceleration or you will get nothing but trouble

P4 is faster because Atom is not OoO unlike every other x86/x64 CPU from Intel and AMD.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by blackcat54

Still stuttering @59Hz.

are you using HDMI audio? try using analogue audio (the HDMI audio could be using more CPU power)

[blackcat54]

Originally Posted by Mussels

are you using HDMI audio? try using analogue audio (the HDMI audio could be using more CPU power)

HDMI audio disabled.

I had to implement an EDID override to turn off HDMI audio to achieve sharp fonts on the 32" 1080P TV I use as a monitor. The Invidia Control Panel shows the PC display connector as DVI.

I think the problem might have something to do with the 256MB dedicated video memory being too little.

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by blackcat54

HDMI audio disabled.

I had to implement an EDID override to turn off HDMI audio to achieve sharp fonts on the 32" 1080P TV I use as a monitor. The Invidia Control Panel shows the PC display connector as DVI.

I think the problem might have something to do with the 256MB dedicated video memory.

its not the memory i've got an 8MB intel onboard that in 2D overlay, handles 720p video.

its quite likely related to the EDID hack you had to do. If its not the cause, its just another symptom of whatever caused the blurriness.

[blackcat54]

Originally Posted by Mussels

its not the memory i've got an 8MB intel onboard that in 2D overlay, handles 720p video.

its quite likely related to the EDID hack you had to do. If its not the cause, its just another symptom of whatever caused the blurriness.

Smooth Video.

or

Sharp Fonts.

Choose One!?...Can't have both?

That sucks!

Do you think Windows 32Bit as opposed to 64Bit would help?

[puma99dk|]

at just starting up standart 64bit uses more memory than 32bit, so u can give it a try blackcat54.

i have seen Intel Atom with Nvidia Ion with my own eyes running Disney's cartoon Bolt on blu-ray 1080p in PowerDVD but i couldn't get close to see what Windows 7 version it was running.

[OneMoar]

post process effects are SLOW your computer is SLOW
1. for whatever reasion something is eating a bunch of cpu time either poorly configured decoder(cuda accleration is not working obviously) or the machine is just plain old suck
2.he is attempting to use some sorta of post effect/scaling(trying to upscale 720p to 1080?) he has the power for neither
I have used a few atom based systems they are DOG slow but they CAN handle 1080p video when things are running at there peak anyway
/thread
protip more ram != faster
unless mpc-hc.exe is using >1000MB of ram it wont matter and IF mpc-hc.exe is uing >1000MB of ram then he has bigger issues to deal with
even on my machine using madVR I never use more then 512MB of Vram decoding AND up-scaling video 1280x720 > 1600x1200(in real time) and MadVr is very intensive using the EVR-fallback he wont ever use more then 128MB
back on topic can we get a screen shot of GPUz and taskmanger whilst playing a video and a screen of your mpchc/coreavc settings

[TC-man]

Hi,

Just try out Daum PotPlayer which is made by the same guy who made KMPlayer. It has everything built-in, that's including the codecs, dxva and CUDA/CUVID support and so on. You don't have to install a separate codec pack if you use PotPlayer.

And you can also install LAV filters which also support CUVID, dxva and Intel QuickSync; you can configure PotPlayer or MPC to use LAV filters; LAV filters can do more (e.g. can decode way more video formats than H.264) than CoreAVC and is free to use.

Hope this helps!

Good luck!

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by Mussels

its not the memory i've got an 8MB intel onboard that in 2D overlay, handles 720p video.

its quite likely related to the EDID hack you had to do. If its not the cause, its just another symptom of whatever caused the blurriness.

It isnt

[Batou1986]

I had issues with my AMD e-350 based Zbox with HD took me a while to get the right codec configuration.
I've been using MPC-HC 32bit and LAV filter setup found here without issue, skip mad VR.
http://coalgirls.wakku.to/faq/playba...r-mpc-hc-madvr

The only issue i have now is some 1080p stuff that's not DXVA compatible with styled subs can get choppy when there's alot of subtitle effects going on.

[Completely Bonkers]

Don't use x64 on an Atom. Many Atoms can't run x64, and the few that do... not optimised for it. You'll get a better experience on x86 IMO.

Filestamping... is NTFS way of updating EACH file with "last access time" in addition to "last modified". Of course, that adds a huge overhead to the disk infrastructure. I turn "last access time" off, esp. important on SSDs!

I'm sorry you are having problems with HDMI/EDID. If it gives you motivation, I have an Atom 330 ION system and it runs 720p fine... over DVI. My board wins with DVI, and I now realise, is lucky to be without HDMI.

[blackcat54]

Originally Posted by Batou1986

I had issues with my AMD e-350 based Zbox with HD took me a while to get the right codec configuration.
I've been using MPC-HC 32bit and LAV filter setup found here without issue, skip mad VR.
http://coalgirls.wakku.to/faq/playba...r-mpc-hc-madvr

The only issue i have now is some 1080p stuff that's not DXVA compatible with styled subs can get choppy when there's alot of subtitle effects going on.

Tried everything listed on your link.

Still Stuttering!

Did your Zbox stutter at first?

[blackcat54]

I updated the dedicated video memory (Frame Buffer) in the BIOS to 512MB.

Still stutters.

[D007]

I had issues with videos using hardware acceleration, that led to stuttering before.
Idk if that helps..

[blackcat54]

Originally Posted by D007

I had issues with videos using hardware acceleration, that led to stuttering before.
Idk if that helps..

Idk = I Don't Know?

Yes of course!

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by puma99dk|

at just starting up standart 64bit uses more memory than 32bit, so u can give it a try blackcat54.

i have seen Intel Atom with Nvidia Ion with my own eyes running Disney's cartoon Bolt on blu-ray 1080p in PowerDVD but i couldn't get close to see what Windows 7 version it was running.

official blu ray disks would be hardware accelerated. its playing from files that isnt.