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[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

im looking to make the switch from AMD to intel.

here is what I have so far... any suggestions? I dont want to go over 500.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $463.95
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-04 16:50 EDT-0400)

[Fourstaff]

So what are you going to do with the FX8150 then? You can reuse the Hyper 520 and the ram if you wish, and get 3570K if its the same price as the 2500K

[erocker]

I don't see the point unless you plan on using more than one GPU.

[TacoTown]

Ditch the 2500k, and get a 3570k or better.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by TacoTown

Ditch the 2500k, and get a 3570k or better.

But 2500K and 3570K are the same

[erocker]

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

But 2500K and 3570K are the same

No they aren't. Check reviews as clock for clock the 3570K is faster.

[AthlonX2]

if you need a cpu cooler i have two you can choose from and ill give it to you for the cost of shipping

[Soup]

I'd get 8GB of faster ram instead of the 16GB

[Crap Daddy]

Get a new GPU.

[MxPhenom 216]

Keep your memory and cooler and just get a Ivy Bridge 3570k and motherboard. Or screw going intel right now and just get a new GPU. It'll help you more in gaming then doing a CPU/platform change.

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Get a new GPU.

see the thing is, half the time people tell me to upgrade my GPU. the other half of the time people tell me to keep the 5850 and swithc to intel cause it will improved my FPS by 5-10 FPS. the big issue i have right now is with Arma II bottlenecking. Hence why Im interested in switching from my FX-8120 to intel.

[Soup]

660Ti or 670 will be far more helpful than a new cpu

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

im looking to make the switch from AMD to intel.

here is what I have so far... any suggestions? I dont want to go over 500.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B SE2 37.9 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $463.95
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-09-04 16:50 EDT-0400)

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

see the thing is, half the time people tell me to upgrade my GPU. the other half of the time people tell me to keep the 5850 and swithc to intel cause it will improved my FPS by 5-10 FPS. the big issue i have right now is with Arma II bottlenecking. Hence why Im interested in switching from my FX-8120 to intel.

Keep what you've got. The FX-8120 is still pretty high end, it can't bottleneck a single GPU.

Switch to Intel you'll probably get the same frame rate, maybe a slight improvement like <5FPS average, I doubt any improvement noticeable to justify spending $500. Not sure how multi threaded Arma II is but you might even get less FPS.

Upgrade just the GPU. It's the only way to guarantee a FPS improvement in high double digits.

(also it's not the best time to be switching sockets. Piledriver is a few months away. It might be a quick and cheap upgrade solution if you decide to change the CPU alone)

[Crap Daddy]

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

see the thing is, half the time people tell me to upgrade my GPU. the other half of the time people tell me to keep the 5850 and swithc to intel cause it will improved my FPS by 5-10 FPS. the big issue i have right now is with Arma II bottlenecking. Hence why Im interested in switching from my FX-8120 to intel.

How would you explain that bottleneck? Isn't your 5850 under 99% load in game?

[MxPhenom 216]

Ducky you hould have just listened to everyone in team speak telling you to send your msi GTX670 back for a refund to buy the Non Reference gigabyte.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by erocker

No they aren't. Check reviews as clock for clock the 3570K is faster.

But 2500K clocks higher runs cooler etcetcetc...

They are more or less the same, similar enough for me to recommend getting the cheaper of the two or 3570K if price is within spitting distance.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

How would you explain that bottleneck? Isn't your 5850 under 99% load in game?

Why does an AMD A8-3800 APU beat out an 1100T?



Can you explain THAT bottleneck?

Originally Posted by Fourstaff

But 2500K clocks higher runs cooler etcetcetc...

They are more or less the same, similar enough for me to recommend getting the cheaper of the two or 3570K if price is within spitting distance.

2500K DOES NOT RUN COOLER.

Yes, 3570k reports higher temperatures, but it is against physics for 3570k to run "hotter", when it consumes less power.

That drop in power consumption is pretty big, too.


Ivybridge CPUs have far higher memory speeds possible, too, and memory performance out of the box is faster, which si a big part of why Ivy excels VS Sandy.

[erocker]

Regardless, the CPU he currently has is fine for ArmA 2 and Battlefield 2, etc. http://www.guru3d.com/article/battle...nchmark-test/3

I'm quite sure the performance issues that are going on are due to a driver/software issue, graphics settings are too high for the video card or the servers being played on have some networking/memory leak issues.

[Durvelle27]

your setup is perfectly fine for a single or multi gpu set up just upgrade the HD 5850 you'll get more of an improvement

[Benetanegia]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Yes, 3570k reports higher temperatures, but it is against physics for 3570k to run "hotter", when it consumes less power.

Not really. Less power but concentrated on a smaller area results in higher temps.

However it's the crappy paste instead of solder what makes temps high afaik.

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

2500K DOES NOT RUN COOLER.

Yes, 3570k reports higher temperatures, but it is against physics for 3570k to run "hotter", when it consumes less power.

I will have to disagree with you there, 2500K does indeed run cooler than the 3570 due to the poor heat dissipating powers of the 3570K. My 25w soldering iron is far hotter than my 65w cpu, care to explain that?

But yes, the 3570K is superior compared to the 2500K in almost all measures, only if you choose to utilise them. Getting 1600Mhz ram? Not too much different between 2500k/3570K. Using 1866Mhz ram? 3570K wins hands down. You have a good heatsink? 3570K clocks almost as good as 2500K, and wins hands down. Sticking with stock clocks? 3570K stock is better than 2500K stock.

[Soup]

http://www.techpowerup.com/165882/TI...After-All.html

[Killer_Rubber_Ducky]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

How would you explain that bottleneck? Isn't your 5850 under 99% load in game?

Actually for some reason most of the time the GPU lists as running under ~14% load with graphics set high with AA off and AF maxed.

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Ducky you hould have just listened to everyone in team speak telling you to send your msi GTX670 back for a refund to buy the Non Reference gigabyte.

I would have but my laptop died and I use that for school. School is more important than a GPU.

[Durvelle27]

is your cpu overclocked

[Benetanegia]

Originally Posted by Killer_Rubber_Ducky

Actually for some reason most of the time the GPU lists as running under ~14% load with graphics set high with AA off and AF maxed.

That is not CPU bottleneck. It's something else. Have you tried different drivers?