AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed

[de.das.dude]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

AMD already lowered BD prices about two weeks ago, IIRC

wait what? their prices went up a little in india! the FX4100 is now at Rs7000, similar to a phenom II 965

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

wondering how steam roller is going to be priced. and if they will decrease the bulldozer prices then.

SteamRoller is scheduled to be released sometime in mid to late Q2 2013 (April/May/June) (In AMD's time it may probably be Q3 2013) to completely replace the Bulldozer & Piledriver lineups. So you mean will Piledriver based CPU's decrease in price, not Bulldozer. Piledriver is replacing Bulldozer completely.

Obviously AMD has something planned for Steamroller. There's been Major Architectural changes versus Piledriver. Piledriver may have fixed a lot of Bulldozer's issues by way of tweaks and latencies, but it is Steamroller that will bring major performance improvements from what has been said as of late.

Interesting times for AMD

[Covert_Death]

piledriver is probably the end of the line for AM3+ socket boards though, i doubt steamroller would run on such an "old" socket. time for AM4!!

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by Covert_Death

piledriver is probably the end of the line for AM3+ socket boards though, i doubt steamroller would run on such an "old" socket. time for AM4!!

Well the way AMD made it sound, Steamroller is Socket AM3+ and Excavator may be Socket AM4. It may also be based on DDR4? Sometime in 2014 AMD plans to relese improved version of Steamroller with better overall power and performance along with Excavator coming right after it.

AMD is really good at sticking with long term compatibility. But of course it's all speculation in relation to how AMD's past long term socket support.

[Covert_Death]

hmmmm it'd be nice if it were AM3+ but i need an upgrade nowwww, hopefully piledriver is a step up from my 955 @ 4.0 Ghz... if it proves worthy ill buy in, if not i guess ill push my 955 to its limit and wait for steamroller... either way im NOT buying another board for a long time

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by Covert_Death

hmmmm it'd be nice if it were AM3+ but i need an upgrade nowwww, hopefully piledriver is a step up from my 955 @ 4.0 Ghz... if it proves worthy ill buy in, if not i guess ill push my 955 to its limit and wait for steamroller... either way im NOT buying another board for a long time

no need for it, you have the next to top tier board right there

[Super XP]

Yes and I don't plan on replacing my Crosshair V (AM3+) for a long time. Though I would like to one day plug in a nice FX 8520 Steamroller 8-Core in it.

[Vinska]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Yes and I don't plan on replacing my Crosshair V (AM3+) for a long time. Though I would like to one day plug in a nice FX 8520 Steamroller 8-Core in it.

Ditto - I would like to keep my mobo for a long time and have a steamroller in it eventually
*crosses fingers for AM3+ for Steamroller*

[AvonX]

Originally Posted by Vinska

Ditto - I would like to keep my mobo for a long time and have a steamroller in it eventually
*crosses fingers for AM3+ for Steamroller*

Don't understand you guys, why you insist on AM3+?
They should leave AM3+ behind but i will not be surprised if AMD will release SR on AM3+.

[Vinska]

Originally Posted by AvonX

Don't understand you guys, why you insist on AM3+?
They should leave AM3+ behind but i will not be surprised if AMD will release SR on AM3+.

'Cause I don't like the idea to throw away my current mobo just so I could use the "bulldozer done right" (even though my mobo is not the top notch one, but is quite high-end (and expensive) nonetheless).

[Covert_Death]

Originally Posted by Vinska

'Cause I don't like the idea to throw away my current mobo just so I could use the "bulldozer done right" (even though my mobo is not the top notch one, but is quite high-end (and expensive) nonetheless).

exactly.... Intel boys are too used to buy boards and chips together at the same time... that's a $500-$600 upgrade EVERYTIME!!!!!! I'd much rather stick to what i can afford to upgrade every few years and stick to $200-$300

[AvonX]

Originally Posted by Vinska

'Cause I don't like the idea to throw away my current mobo just so I could use the "bulldozer done right" (even though my mobo is not the top notch one, but is quite high-end (and expensive) nonetheless).

The real situation here is that AMD doesn't have something really good to offer for performance desktop cpus. And that is why there is no new boards rolling out. If they had a good cpu upgrade they would of left AM3+ behind just as in trinity parts they have new boards.

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by AvonX

The real situation here is that AMD doesn't have something really good to offer for performance desktop cpus. And that is why there is no new boards rolling out. If they had a good cpu upgrade they would of left AM3+ behind just as in trinity parts they have new boards.

lol, Are you kidding
Who said AMD doesn't have anything good to offer via performance desktop CPU's. How about the best they can currently offer, such as the FX 8150, 8120, and a bunch of PII's lying around. They hold great price/performance and can do anything you throw at them including gaming.

Your logic is flawed but you do have a right to your opinion. AMD should stick with AM3+ up until Steamroller, then move onto a different socket for Excavator.

AMD made some mistakes with the Bulldozer Design which still needs a lot of refining. But nevertheless for now, they are alive and kicking when plugged into a compatible mobo

[Frick]

Originally Posted by Super XP

lol, Are you kidding

I think this needs to be reposted:

Originally Posted by erocker

Wow, this thread just goes in one circle after another. Here's an idea... Stop responding to the one who keeps repeating the same things over and over again and this dead horse beating show will stop.

Thanks.

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by Frick

I think this needs to be reposted:

Oh so he is the yes now I get it lol.

Anyhow let's chew on this:

Many say that Steamroller will not be able to face Haswell, but the reality is that Steamroller is apparently a proper implementation of the FlexFP concept. The doubling of the cache, dispatch and fetching units will greatly increase the performance.

Many are estimating conservative values ranging between a 20% and a 30% performance improvement over the current Bulldozer processors, but sources inside the engineering department at AMD are reportedly expecting 45% performance improvements.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-s...l-289980.shtml

[Steevo]

I am waiting for GTA 5 to see what my next system will be. If AMD doesn't get its crap together I will be Intel and Nvidia.

[Dent1]

Originally Posted by Steevo

I am waiting for GTA 5 to see what my next system will be. If AMD doesn't get its crap together I will be Intel and Nvidia.

I don't think AMD's CEOs are losing any sleep over you.

[Steevo]

Originally Posted by Dent1

I don't think AMD's CEOs are losing any sleep over you.

While I don't think they are either there are a lot of businesses with people like me, who buy, build and support all the systems in use, so a switch to Intel exclusively means a loss of motherboard, GPU, and CPU sales on. Then all the systems I build for people, and my own system. While it might only be 20 or so systems a year when you piss me off, when 1,000 other people like me get tired of it also that's 20,000 per year of chipsets, GPU, and CPU's that you don't sell.

But don't worry, I am sure they aren't concerned, they plan on never making another better performing chip anytime in the future.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by Covert_Death

exactly.... Intel boys are too used to buy boards and chips together at the same time... that's a $500-$600 upgrade EVERYTIME!!!!!! I'd much rather stick to what i can afford to upgrade every few years and stick to $200-$300

that was the whole idea of a custom pc.

idk if steamroller supports ddr3 but in event it does along with 970 chipset that cpu is replacing then phii in my bros machine and a hd 8 or 9 series gpu is going in with ram topped at 32GB.

The machine has 8Gb in it already.

[Super XP]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

that was the whole idea of a custom pc.

idk if steamroller supports ddr3 but in event it does along with 970 chipset that cpu is replacing then phii in my bros machine and a hd 8 or 9 series gpu is going in with ram topped at 32GB.

The machine has 8Gb in it already.

Intel don't plan on supporting DDR4 up until after late 2014. I don't see AMD moving to it, and IMO AMD will make its next socket change when it chooses to support DDR4. This is why I see Excavator perhaps supporting it. It could also be Excavators successor Steamshovel or its successor Dumptruck.

[Covert_Death]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Intel don't plan on supporting DDR4 up until after late 2014. I don't see AMD moving to it, and IMO AMD will make its next socket change when it chooses to support DDR4. This is why I see Excavator perhaps supporting it. It could also be Excavators successor Steamshovel or its successor Dumptruck.

where do all these names get made up and how far down the line is backhoe lol????

[largon]

^Heh, or "Dumper"?
"Jackhammer" would've been fitting for Bulldozer, IMO.

[...] sources inside the engineering department at AMD are reportedly expecting 45% performance improvements.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-s...l-289980.shtml

Uh-oh...
Reminds me of this.

I think it's safe to expect performance progression anywhere between -5% to n%.

[Frick]

Originally Posted by Steevo

I am waiting for GTA 5 to see what my next system will be. If AMD doesn't get its crap together I will be Intel and Nvidia.

Just out of curiosity, why dump amd graphic cards if their cpus doesnt deliver?

[AvonX]

Originally Posted by Frick

Just out of curiosity, why dump amd graphic cards if their cpus doesnt deliver?

I am not so sure if AMD will continue to deliver on the graphics cards.

Originally Posted by Super XP

Many are estimating conservative values ranging between a 20% and a 30% performance improvement over the current Bulldozer processors, but sources inside the engineering department at AMD are reportedly expecting 45% performance improvements.

Now we have another myth expecting nearly 50% performance improvements?
You have allot of chewing to do. LoL

[Frick]

Originally Posted by AvonX

I am not so sure if AMD will continue to deliver on the graphics cards.

Why? If you've already answered you can provide a link to that post.

Now we have another myth expecting nearly 50% performance improvements?
You have allot of chewing to do. LoL

Yeah, I'll call that a myth as well. It would be magic if it happened, but magic isn't real.