Beware: torrent sites are being watched

1nf3rn0x · Sep 10, 2012, 07:25 AM

Score one for highbrow tastes: If you've ever downloaded a popular movie, TV show or music album from a site like Pirate Bay, there's a strong chance your IP address is sitting on a database somewhere.

So what exactly did their research reveal? They were able to identify 1139 IP addresses linked up to the BitTorrent network that they believe were monitoring users around the world. Those IP addresses belong to copyright enforcement organisations, security companies and government research labs, according to the report.

Furthermore, it seems that copyright enforcers are targeting "only the most popular content," and anyone sharing a popular film or music file is likely to have their activity logged on the network within three hours. You don't have to be a mass downloader, either. According to the research, those who download a single film will be logged just as those who download 10 are.

But there is some good news for any of you scofflaws who have downloaded popular content. The scientists say that while the monitoring technology can detect that you are connected to a torrent client, they can't necessarily prove you downloaded anything. This means that the data gathered through monitoring "falls short of providing conclusive evidence of copyright infringement" — and might not stand up in a court.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/tech...#ixzz26380WF7T

Stay safe guys

de.das.dude · Sep 10, 2012, 07:36 AM

my isp has its own peering network and torrent site

mtosev · Sep 10, 2012, 09:10 AM

I'm not surprised at all by this

Drone · Sep 10, 2012, 09:20 AM

Like there were any real torrent sites. Demonoid, TorrentBox and BTJunkie are dead, TPB hosts only magnet links.

W1zzard · Sep 10, 2012, 09:22 AM

technically not the torrent sites are watched but the bt transfers. those companies run the torrent using a client that logs ip addresses of uploaders that show up as peers/dht/uploaders.

i seriously doubt there is enough evidence unless you actually upload a significant piece of the original data to that company.

_JP_ · Sep 10, 2012, 09:47 AM

Don't they know magnet links are all the rage now?

W1zzard · Sep 10, 2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by _JP_

Don't they know magnet links are all the rage now?

magnet just eliminates downloading the torrent file directly. once the magnet magic has done its job you will have a torrent file in your client

caleb · Sep 10, 2012, 09:52 AM

Lucky us the whole ACTA crap didn't pass around here. So unless you're a total moron and give away information about yourself then your ISP wont sell you for nothing (with no court order etc.)

_JP_ · Sep 10, 2012, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by W1zzard

magnet just eliminates downloading the torrent file directly. once the magnet magic has done its job you will have a torrent file in your client

Shh. Don't let them know that.

Laurijan · Sep 10, 2012, 01:34 PM

This is why I use Relakks (swedish ip) a 5€ per month encypted VPN tunnel service. my speed suffers - get 10M compared to 16M but I can live with it.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 10, 2012, 02:27 PM

I'm surprised any of you are surprised. Did you honestly think you had privacy online?

This isn't a dig at pirates or anything. Just saying in general you would have to be an idiot to think you are "protected" from anything online. ISP's could give a crap less about your privacy and if the powers that be want to find you they will.

Guitarrassdeamor · Sep 10, 2012, 02:29 PM

I started using invite only sites a while ago.

STCNE · Sep 10, 2012, 02:41 PM

All of the big piracy sites are/were owned by RIAA or RIAA owned corporations. Plus there is the whole matter that the big news sites were really pushing for people to 'try out' all the piracy software 5-10 years back. Don't believe me, do some research yourself. It's not exactly hidden. Look up Mike Mozart on youtube, he kind of shows the extremes of what this could mean for us. He goes a bit overboard but he has the proof. It's jail-baiting pretty much, that's why I stay away from piracy.

All they'd need to do to start arresting people is to pass a bill like CIPSA which they are pushing for now. The big US ISPs are big shareholders in RIAA owned buisnesses but they don't have the legal authority to send the proof(their records) with current laws.

HossHuge · Sep 10, 2012, 03:10 PM

Around here everybody has wifi so say for example your wifi was being hacked or you left your wifi open to everyone.

What would happen in those cases?
Can they force you to use an encryption?
Would they still know who is downloading?

Aleksander · Sep 10, 2012, 03:15 PM

wow i didnt know this!
a friend of mine already has 10 paypal accounts taking dollars and has everything from
stupid people, just by uploading torrents which cannot be detected by any antiviruses

newconroer · Sep 10, 2012, 03:20 PM

People who download The Avengers for free = small fry.
Corporations and 'scenes' like Rapidshare/Pirate Bay who knowingly harbor, distribute and advocate infringement = scum.

Governments need to prioritize their targets.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 10, 2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica

wow i didnt know this!
a friend of mine already has 10 paypal accounts taking dollars and has everything from
stupid people, just by uploading torrents which cannot be detected by any antiviruses

I didn't understand a damn thing you just said.

STCNE · Sep 10, 2012, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newconroer

People who download The Avengers for free = small fry.
Corporations and 'scenes' like Rapidshare/Pirate Bay who knowingly harbor, distribute and advocate infringement = scum.

Governments need to prioritize their targets.

They go for the easier targets, taking on the pirate bay or even megaupload is expensive and word spreads fast with big takedown attempts like that. Going after casual downloaders is easy as they can usually reach a settlement fast. And of course the way torrent software works, when you initiate a download it automatically makes you an uploader. That's how they are able to hit people for so much money. As you are downloading say a 1GB movie, the parts you have already downloaded will be 'seeded' off your connection. Assuming it's a heavily pirated movie you could be 'helping' hundreds if not thousands of other people download it within minutes. Technically you didn't upload it, but the law is flexible enough for those with the good lawyers.

ShiBDiB · Sep 10, 2012, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitarrassdeamor

I started using invite only sites a while ago.

Lol those are a joke, full of elitist assholes and are usually the most common sites to capitulate to copyright pressure

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I didn't understand a damn thing you just said.

Sounds like he just admitted his friend is knowingly stealing from other people using malware... Doesnt that make him guilty by association?

MatTheCat · Sep 10, 2012, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I didn't understand a damn thing you just said.

He is proudly announcing that his friend (or indeed he himself), is sitting withdrawing money out of peoples paypal accounts after they had downloaded torrent file with an undetected virus in.

TheMailMan78 · Sep 10, 2012, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatTheCat

He is proudly announcing that his friend (or indeed he himself), is sitting withdrawing money out of peoples paypal accounts after they had downloaded torrent file with an undetected virus in.

Ah ok.

Solaris17 · Sep 10, 2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatTheCat

He is proudly announcing that his friend (or indeed he himself), is sitting withdrawing money out of peoples paypal accounts after they had downloaded torrent file with an undetected virus in.

those are the real scumbags i hope he gets arrested.

Aleksander · Sep 10, 2012, 03:50 PM

There is no cybercrime law on my country so he is free for now

Anyway he was revealed several times by asian banks with name and real life address

I know you can hate him, but people pls! Bittorrent is full of these type of guys!
They should arrest bitorrent and thepiratebay first than my friend

Laurijan · Sep 10, 2012, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solaris17

those are the real scumbags i hope he gets arrested.

Me too

ShiBDiB · Sep 10, 2012, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksander Dishnica

There is no cybercrime law on my country so he is free for now

Anyway he was revealed several times by asian banks with name and real life address

As far as im aware, as soon as he steals from someone in a country with laws he can be charged.

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