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Old Sep 10, 2012, 03:54 PM   #26
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I come from a country where cybercrime never existed, so it is quite normal i find this humorous.
How comes you say such words, when piratebay is out there and people loose info from downloading something.
It looks completely silly. This is the humorous thing.
And you just started, without even knowing how many people are out there doing these things.
Usually those who "act" as they hate these things, have a very high chance they do these things themselfs.
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I come from a country where cybercrime never existed, so it is quite normal i find this humorous.
How comes you say such words, when piratebay is out there and people loose info from downloading something.
It looks completely silly. This is the humorous thing.
And you just started, without even knowing how many people are out there doing these things.
Usually those who "act" as they hate these things, have a very high chance they do these things themselfs.
Because you know someone personally who could be stealing someones only source of income. This is what makes you the douche, thats like watching someone rob an old lady and giving them a high five as they run away.

And I just notice you accused me of doing this, your logic false.
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ok, what if you find your family rob a penny in a bank?
And i said you for all who replied to the post, not you personally.

And watching your signature, i understand what you mean....
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I come from a country where cybercrime never existed, so it is quite normal i find this humorous.
How comes you say such words, when piratebay is out there and people loose info from downloading something.
It looks completely silly. This is the humorous thing.
And you just started, without even knowing how many people are out there doing these things.
Usually those who "act" as they hate these things, have a very high chance they do these things themselfs.
So basically your script kiddie friend steals money/info from people and you and him get together and laugh about because your country doesnt have any cyber crime laws because your so back woods your government is still run by people in teepees?





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Old Sep 10, 2012, 04:39 PM   #30
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Lol those are a joke, full of elitist assholes and are usually the most common sites to capitulate to copyright pressure
You probably need to join some different sites. There are only 1 or 2 that I joined and had a problem with "elitist assholes", one specifically I know of that I am still a member of. That, and only maybe 2 of the sites I am/have been on have fallen to "copyright" pressure, and I might just have lost the site information for one of them.
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Old Sep 10, 2012, 04:42 PM   #31
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I think this thread is becoming more personal
you did that. ill gladly go back on topic but some personal advice id refran from admitting to a tech community save torrent sites that you and your little criminal friend get a good laugh out of jerking people around. the majority of other countries tend to frown on shit like that.
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No, you'll get back on topic now.

Thread cleaned.

Violators infracted.

Name-calling... really people?

Stay on topic, consider this a warning for the rest of you who didn't earn some points.
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OOO a piracy thread
/me get some popcorn ...
seriously kids grow up
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Old Sep 11, 2012, 10:43 AM   #35
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I can smell a high tide of conspiracy theories right here.
That being said, internets are everything but safe, that's for sure, and there are ways of checking on stuff 99% of people never heard of (at the least, not everyone is really superiour network specialist).
But I don't believe half of the claims that always arise in threads similar to this. I always remember those hoax emails about new deadly virus that would spin your hard drive to insane rotation speeds and completely destroy all data, if you click on an email sent by donkeydick1337 blabla. Some common sense and basic knowledge about what I am doing helps a lot.
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The scary thing is that some companies specialized in lurking over p2p in order to link personal data with stuff you download - not very hard with facebook and not encrypted transfers from public trackers eh ?
When they have both they contact copyright owner with the information afterwards they both contact you with proposal : money or lawsuit. Sure the process in court might go different ways but ask yourself would you rather go there or just pay them money ?
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The sad thing is if you buy or rent a movie you have to watch 10 min of crap before you can even watch the movie so your screwed ether way
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As far as im aware, as soon as he steals from someone in a country with laws he can be charged.
Only when you steal from the US.
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Pirating it`s not same as stealing. Pirating it is not correct either. By definition when you steal some thing from some one he should lose that thing. Companies don`t lose anything. They don`t want to legalize all copies they just want to make more billions.

They calculate that X millions downloads X price of the game = THE LOSS

It reality if there weren`t torrents doesn`t mean that those millions of people would buy the game.

Another argument torrent could increase sales for companies. One part of the people that downloaded from torrent and play the campaign and get addicted and go and buy the game to play it multiplayer.

There are multiple games that sell for couple dollars and make millions and they are not near as good as CoD for example. It is possible that if they sold CoD for 5$ could end up making even more money. Similar to what apple did with music. They lower the price of the music and ended up making more money for them and for the owners.

If they really wanted to stop pirating why not just sell the game with usb security token. If it is safe for banking I don`t see why wont be good for Games.
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That, and the fact that games are so expensive nowadays (not that they weren't in the past, but..) "in today's economy" that shelling out $60 for a supposed AAA title that sucks ass is stupid. And with PC, you're stuck with it - can't sell it or trade it in a lot of the times. Lots of companies don't provide demos anymore either. Mass Effect is one game I remember trying and it was so good I went and bought it right after. I haven't played it at all really, but I bought it.
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"Waaa, waaaa, waaaaaa, games are so expensive" Excuses for stealing are funny.
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Government steals from me every day.. They call it taxes but our kids aren't getting any new books, our roads are in disrepair and people can't afford medical insurance.. They can sue me.. If they are reading this, they should really take a moment and reflect on this:
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PS: If the movie is worth it, I buy it on Amazon in HD anyway.. I don't go to the movies. But I don't feel like waiting months for a dvd release.. Maybe they should stop sucking the cak of the movie theaters and start releasing movies to the public for sale sooner..

Also, games are dumb expensive now.. If you looked at EA's annual income, you'd know that..
Have I ever stolen a game? No.. But I'm dam sure pissed at how fast they jump the prices to 60 dollars, add bullshit dlc and overcharge for it.. they are making a killing on that kind of crap but instead of passing on savings they just gouge.. I have no sympathy..
They can cry about it if they want, when the ceo drives by me in his lamborghini..
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hoax emails about new deadly virus that would spin your hard drive to insane rotation speeds and completely destroy all data
Dont know about thet, but I got a DVD disc, one game on it, you play the game, when its end, its destroy your hdd. ( no spin up tho ) Did it with 4 hdd in the past.
I think it is virus on it, not sure. But if it is, then possible to kill hdd with virus over email too.
( The data was unrecoverable from all hdd, did try several virus scan, not find any )
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Dont know about thet, but I got a DVD disc, one game on it, you play the game, when its end, its destroy your hdd. ( no spin up tho ) Did it with 4 hdd in the past.
I think it is virus on it, not sure. But if it is, then possible to kill hdd with virus over email too.
( The data was unrecoverable from all hdd, did try several virus scan, not find any )
Oooh, this is like the ring.. Only for PC's..
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Government steals from me every day.. They call it taxes but our kids aren't getting any new books, our roads are in disrepair and people can't afford medical insurance.. They can sue me.. If they are reading this, they should really take a moment and reflect on this:
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PS: If the movie is worth it, I buy it on Amazon in HD anyway.. I don't go to the movies. But I don't feel like waiting months for a dvd release.. Maybe they should stop sucking the cak of the movie theaters and start releasing movies to the public for sale sooner..

Also, games are dumb expensive now.. If you looked at EA's annual income, you'd know that..
Have I ever stolen a game? No.. But I'm dam sure pissed at how fast they jump the prices to 60 dollars, add bullshit dlc and overcharge for it.. they are making a killing on that kind of crap but instead of passing on savings they just gouge.. I have no sympathy..
They can cry about it if they want, when the ceo drives by me in his lamborghini..
How dare they make money!
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Pirating it`s not same as stealing. They calculate that X millions downloads X price of the game = THE LOSS
There are pirates who sell pirated content, in this case it's definitely can be called stealing.

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Yes un-bought content and pirated content is actually the same thing. I'm sure those people ain't gonna pay anyway. But I think that pirates don't do it just because they don't want to pay, it's rather their lifestyle.

To me it doesn't make much sense. If I like some artists I'll support them, I'll buy their stuff and will go to see their gig. If I don't like them I won't need their shit even for free.
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"Waaa, waaaa, waaaaaa, games are so expensive" Excuses for stealing are funny.
I own 100+ games on Steam and 30+ games (most bought new) for my PS3 and multiples for other consoles and a lot more in the past. Money is not an issue, believe me. What is an issue is when you release a shitty game and I have no recourse after wasting $60 on it.
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Government steals from me every day.. They call it taxes but our kids aren't getting any new books, our roads are in disrepair and people can't afford medical insurance.. They can sue me.. If they are reading this, they should really take a moment and reflect on this:
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PS: If the movie is worth it, I buy it on Amazon in HD anyway.. I don't go to the movies. But I don't feel like waiting months for a dvd release.. Maybe they should stop sucking the cak of the movie theaters and start releasing movies to the public for sale sooner..

Also, games are dumb expensive now.. If you looked at EA's annual income, you'd know that..
Have I ever stolen a game? No.. But I'm dam sure pissed at how fast they jump the prices to 60 dollars, add bullshit dlc and overcharge for it.. they are making a killing on that kind of crap but instead of passing on savings they just gouge.. I have no sympathy..
They can cry about it if they want, when the ceo drives by me in his lamborghini..
Me I like taxes, but they work pretty good where I live, I can understand people get pissed when they don't work well.

Time between theater and DVD/BR I don't mind. It feels proper somehow, dunno why really.

And the last thing isn't true, at least not here. A lot of big titles (Deus Ex HR for instance) retail at just above €30 at launch, and physical releases are always a lot cheaper than digital ones. They drop pretty quick too. BF3 Premium is €61 (which sounds a lot, but the € is weak now and the SEK is pretty strong, it used to be €1 = 10SEK), the price games used to come out at. The regular version is €30. Heck I bought Simcopter for BF3 Premium kind of money when it came out.
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The sad thing is if you buy or rent a movie you have to watch 10 min of crap before you can even watch the movie so your screwed ether way
My way around this is by ripping the movies I rent.
Reasons:-
I can watch it later without worrying about overdues
Most of the time I watch the movie once
I don't give out the movies I rip to people
I get kicks out of seeing how fast my PC can encode
I don't particularly enjoy downloading movies from torrents due to not knowing what the actual quality will be or if it will be a cam rip etc etc.
Only things I do DL are television programs which are not available in my country and not available for download without torrenting.

Games I do not pirate.
I enjoy waiting for the steam sales and I like seeing the list of games in my library accumulate.
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I own 100+ games on Steam and 30+ games (most bought new) for my PS3 and multiples for other consoles and a lot more in the past. Money is not an issue, believe me. What is an issue is when you release a shitty game and I have no recourse after wasting $60 on it.
Well, if I bought a crappy car and wasted my money on it, I don't think I would go to the car lot and take another car.

This is the internet though, I freely take what I want and make no excuses for it.
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