Your PC ATM

[IamEzio]

Updated my rig with i5 3470 + H77-D3H and corsair vengeance 1600MHz LP Blue edition , but there is weird "Cold boot Loop" problem that i can't really figure out.. Run Prime95 Blender Test for about 1 hour and no errors, also run OCCT with one of the ram's for more then 7 hours without a problem , and it seems that after Windows is loaded everything seems to work OK ..

[Jetster]

SSD Installed

[t_ski]

[Enigma8750]

nice Rig..

[sneekypeet]

ski, you running beer in that loop?

[popswala]

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

ski, you running beer in that loop?

lol, it sure looks like it. I didn't even catch that earlier.

[t_ski]

Originally Posted by sneekypeet

ski, you running beer in that loop?

No, it's in desparate need of a flush. Second time that's happened. Gonna have to douche it out again

[Thrackan]

Originally Posted by t_ski

No, it's in desparate need of a flush. Second time that's happened. Gonna have to douche it out again

What makes it such an appealing thirst-quenching mixture then?

I mean, how does such colour and foam appear? And what colour was it supposed to be?

[t_ski]

It's plain distilled water and was clear, then gradually got a little cloudy. One weekend it was pretty warm and I left the rig on all weekend, and it got even warmer in that room. Afterwards I noticed the water was brown. Did I burn it? lol

[Thrackan]

It's either tons and tons of bacteria, or some chemical reaction in your loop.
You're not mixing alu and copper blocks right?

[Durvelle27]

upgraded to a Sapphire HD 6950 2gb

[t_ski]

Originally Posted by Thrackan

It's either tons and tons of bacteria, or some chemical reaction in your loop.
You're not mixing alu and copper blocks right?

No mixing going on. I'm wondering if it's a reaction to the Biocide I put in the loop before or something the previous owner used. I should get a silver coil one of these days...

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by t_ski

No mixing going on. I'm wondering if it's a reaction to the Biocide I put in the loop before or something the previous owner used. I should get a silver coil one of these days...

OK, I'll just offer this here.


Distilled water, alone, is a bad coolant. Water can readily accept free ions, whether soluable or not, and moving water generates an electric charge. This means that distilled water will quite often pick up ANYTHING that might be in a loop...coolant additives that have coated the inside of a rad, precipitated there due to cooling effects, or anything else of that sort.


What we need is something to fill the water to the saturation point, some additive, which will not affect cooling properties. Glycol seems to be a common choice, and I'm pretty sure Glycol isn't good for algae, either.

IF hte water was saturated, it woudl notbe able to pick up contaminates. Mind you, you jsut cleaned your loop out, too. If I was you, I'd swap out coolant, put in fresh water, run for a coupel fo days, then drain agian. repeat if needed.


Thoughts on that?

[popswala]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

OK, I'll just offer this here.


Distilled water, alone, is a bad coolant. Water can readily accept free ions, whether soluable or not, and moving water generates an electric charge. This means that distilled water will quite often pick up ANYTHING that might be in a loop...coolant additives that have coated the inside of a rad, precipitated there due to cooling effects, or anything else of that sort.


What we need is something to fill the water to the saturation point, some additive, which will not affect cooling properties. Glycol seems to be a common choice, and I'm pretty sure Glycol isn't good for algae, either.

IF hte water was saturated, it woudl notbe able to pick up contaminates. Mind you, you jsut cleaned your loop out, too. If I was you, I'd swap out coolant, put in fresh water, run for a coupel fo days, then drain agian. repeat if needed.


Thoughts on that?

Kinda lost me there for a moment. So distilled is not good by itself. What would you say is good and still clear that will not contaminate, colorize tubing/res and just overall a good choice? I'm looking to go water very soon and I already have a gal of distilled water lol.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

OK, I'll just offer this here.


Distilled water, alone, is a bad coolant. Water can readily accept free ions, whether soluable or not, and moving water generates an electric charge. This means that distilled water will quite often pick up ANYTHING that might be in a loop...coolant additives that have coated the inside of a rad, precipitated there due to cooling effects, or anything else of that sort.


What we need is something to fill the water to the saturation point, some additive, which will not affect cooling properties. Glycol seems to be a common choice, and I'm pretty sure Glycol isn't good for algae, either.

IF hte water was saturated, it woudl notbe able to pick up contaminates. Mind you, you jsut cleaned your loop out, too. If I was you, I'd swap out coolant, put in fresh water, run for a coupel fo days, then drain agian. repeat if needed.


Thoughts on that?

Dexcool works damn good. I have had the same coolant in the loop for about a year now. No color change and I have drained it a couple of times to check the block/pumps. Refilled the same coolant without an issue.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by cdawall

Dexcool works damn good. I have had the same coolant in the loop for about a year now. No color change and I have drained it a couple of times to check the block/pumps. Refilled the same coolant without an issue.

Hmm, checking it out.


Not many people relate what I jsut did..in fact, most wil ljstu say that distilled water is just fine...but I disagree. It's basic Chemistry, FFS.

Isn't it?

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Hmm, checking it out.


Not many people relate what I jsut did..in fact, most wil ljstu say that distilled water is just fine...but I disagree. It's basic Chemistry, FFS.

Isn't it?

Most people prefer to run the standard "green" vehicle coolant. It is a basic glycol based antifreeze. I use Dexcool for the color I liked the orange it is still glycol based and nothing grows in it. The stuff is rated for 100K miles in a car. That works out to a long time in a PC AFAIC. The stuff is a little thicker hence my dual pump set up, but Dexcool is thinner than the green stuff. I am looking into running the red motocraft for my HTPC. Very similar to dexcool.

This is my 25% Dexcool loop CPU@4ghz 1.55v

Room temp is 74F
CPU is 32C after 2 hours of crysis
OPT3 is loop temp post CPU pre rads.

[PopcornMachine]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Hmm, checking it out.


Not many people relate what I jsut did..in fact, most wil ljstu say that distilled water is just fine...but I disagree. It's basic Chemistry, FFS.

Isn't it?

I use distilled water with a silver coil. Noticed it getting a little murky once, but nothing like the contents of the above reservoir. And I flush it at least twice a year.

Not a great deal of experience here though. I heard a lot of bad stuff about additives corroding and dyed fluids staining that I decided to go with clear distilled water.

Besides, it's a heck of a lot cheaper.

[MxPhenom 216]

Distilled Water + PT Nuke = Win

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Distilled Water + PT Nuke = Win

Have you even ever HAD watercooling?

[popswala]

I've heard mixed things on pt nuke so i decided not use that. I have heard of the car antifreeze mixed with distilled water. Any type of water is not good as it'll rust the inside of the rad.

[Athlonite]

distilled water on it's own is ok but it also needs to be demineralized aswell so that it is nothing but pure H2O

also something to stop any bacteria growing and make the water loaded so it can not pick up anything else from the loop is also a good idea an 25/75 mix of anti freeze/boil or an premix if your not wanting to mix it yourself , should get you demineralized/distilled water and glycol

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

Distilled Water + PT Nuke = Win

More like brown water

[brandonwh64]

Like my anti sagging method? LOL

[t_ski]

Originally Posted by cadaveca

OK, I'll just offer this here.

Distilled water, alone, is a bad coolant. Water can readily accept free ions, whether soluable or not, and moving water generates an electric charge. This means that distilled water will quite often pick up ANYTHING that might be in a loop...coolant additives that have coated the inside of a rad, precipitated there due to cooling effects, or anything else of that sort.

What we need is something to fill the water to the saturation point, some additive, which will not affect cooling properties. Glycol seems to be a common choice, and I'm pretty sure Glycol isn't good for algae, either.

IF hte water was saturated, it woudl notbe able to pick up contaminates. Mind you, you jsut cleaned your loop out, too. If I was you, I'd swap out coolant, put in fresh water, run for a coupel fo days, then drain agian. repeat if needed.

Thoughts on that?

I've used distilled water + automotive anti-freeze (25% mix), plain distilled water, and distilled water + PT nuke (the biocide I mentioned before). I understand that an additive can increase the effectiveness of the coolant and provide a few other features like fungi/algea/etc prevention, but with kids and pets around I like the distilled water the best. I don't have to worry about having the other stuff around or keeping anyone out of it if there is a leak.

Originally Posted by cdawall

Dexcool works damn good. I have had the same coolant in the loop for about a year now. No color change and I have drained it a couple of times to check the block/pumps. Refilled the same coolant without an issue.

I'd have to look back at my log to see the last time I swapped the water out, but it's been a while. It's probably due for a flushing anyway. I'd really like to pop the CPU block open and clean it out, but one of the screws that holds the base on is stripped in the tools side (not the threads) and I can't take it out unless I have a replacement for it.

Originally Posted by cadaveca

Hmm, checking it out.

Not many people relate what I jsut did..in fact, most wil ljstu say that distilled water is just fine...but I disagree. It's basic Chemistry, FFS.

Isn't it?

DAve you been drinking? Seems to be some issues with your typing skillz...

Originally Posted by cdawall

Most people prefer to run the standard "green" vehicle coolant. It is a basic glycol based antifreeze. I use Dexcool for the color I liked the orange it is still glycol based and nothing grows in it. The stuff is rated for 100K miles in a car. That works out to a long time in a PC AFAIC. The stuff is a little thicker hence my dual pump set up, but Dexcool is thinner than the green stuff. I am looking into running the red motocraft for my HTPC. Very similar to dexcool.

This is my 25% Dexcool loop CPU@4ghz 1.55v

Room temp is 74F
CPU is 32C after 2 hours of crysis
OPT3 is loop temp post CPU pre rads.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120912/Capture015.jpg

Again, see my issues with this above.

Originally Posted by PopcornMachine

I use distilled water with a silver coil. Noticed it getting a little murky once, but nothing like the contents of the above reservoir. And I flush it at least twice a year.

Not a great deal of experience here though. I heard a lot of bad stuff about additives corroding and dyed fluids staining that I decided to go with clear distilled water.

Besides, it's a heck of a lot cheaper.

I agree on the dyes being bad but I have not heard much about other additives, other than residual traces left behind. I too would like to go the route of a coil, as I think it's the safest way and should not cause any corrosion due to mixed metals.

Originally Posted by popswala

I've heard mixed things on pt nuke so i decided not use that. I have heard of the car antifreeze mixed with distilled water. Any type of water is not good as it'll rust the inside of the rad.

I never had the water turn brown until I used this. I'm not confident I got all of it flushed out, and I admit I may have used more than I should have. Not really clear on the directions.

Originally Posted by cdawall

More like brown water

Have you had experience with this too, or is this just in response to my situation?