TPU's F@H Team - Page 616

[Ion] · Sep 16, 2012, 09:45 PM

Your choice I guess. I've found that I can run the CPU @ load even while using the computer, and the GPUs could always be run overnight.

Solaris17 · Sep 17, 2012, 04:13 PM

Well the 2 people I PMd couldnt help me. one doesnt remember and the other said they never owned a GTX260 what do you think my next ste p should be? I kinda want to take off the IHS but im not sure the stock cooler will make contact with the core. PNY probably wont do an RMA im not the original owner i cant provide a date a UPC or a location.

[Ion] · Sep 17, 2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

Well the 2 people I PMd couldnt help me. one doesnt remember and the other said they never owned a GTX260 what do you think my next ste p should be? I kinda want to take off the IHS but im not sure the stock cooler will make contact with the core. PNY probably wont do an RMA im not the original owner i cant provide a date a UPC or a location.

I assume that you've already cleaned the cooler, etc? Is it making good contact with the IHS? Is there hot air coming out of the back of the card? I'd be very worried about removing the IHS TBH. I would try another cooler instead if possible.

Solaris17 · Sep 17, 2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by [Ion]

I assume that you've already cleaned the cooler, etc? Is it making good contact with the IHS? Is there hot air coming out of the back of the card? I'd be very worried about removing the IHS TBH. I would try another cooler instead if possible.

yup double and triple checked iv been out for awhile but im not a novice. the IHS im worried about as well. but im running out of options everything os kosher as far as contact. I dont have another cooler or money for any of the fancy after market ones.

BUCK NASTY · Sep 17, 2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

yup double and triple checked iv been out for awhile but im not a novice. the IHS im worried about as well. but im running out of options everything os kosher as far as contact. I dont have another cooler or money for any of the fancy after market ones.

It this model with the rounded back edge?

Solaris17 · Sep 17, 2012, 05:05 PM

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It this model with the rounded back edge?

http://img.techpowerup.org/120917/.jpg

thats it! core 216 pny xlr8 55nm core stamp says revision B3

BUCK NASTY · Sep 17, 2012, 06:06 PM

Does that model have "heat pipes" on the heat sink or is it just a chunk of alum with milled fins?

Solaris17 · Sep 17, 2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Does that model have "heat pipes" on the heat sink or is it just a chunk of alum with milled fins?

copper contact plate with ALU fins no heatpipe in site. this problem orginated between my system going down about a year ago to comming back online about a week ago.

iv tried TIM clean/replace with MX-5 checked spread and examined the card for proper clamp down after I re-assembled. everything looks fine. I then tested it and whiloe the temp climbs slower I reach TJ in about 10min. I even flashed the bios and then tweaked a second bios that had more aggresive fan profiles. even ramping to 100% when it hits 60C (10c from idle temp) I cant slow down the heat output. I was trying to "ramp early so that the cooler isnt saturated too late" but no dice i cant control the heat output.

BUCK NASTY · Sep 17, 2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

copper contact plate with ALU fins no heatpipe in site. this problem orginated between my system going down about a year ago to comming back online about a week ago.

iv tried TIM clean/replace with MX-5 checked spread and examined the card for proper clamp down after I re-assembled. everything looks fine. I then tested it and whiloe the temp climbs slower I reach TJ in about 10min. I even flashed the bios and then tweaked a second bios that had more aggresive fan profiles. even ramping to 100% when it hits 60C (10c from idle temp) I cant slow down the heat output. I was trying to "ramp early so that the cooler isnt saturated too late" but no dice i cant control the heat output.

What are the chances that the bond/interface on the copper plate to heatsink has started to fail? Can you remove the plate and put some TIM on the back of the plate and reassemble the card? Screws should hold everything in place, right?

Solaris17 · Sep 17, 2012, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

What are the chances that the bond/interface on the copper plate to heatsink has started to fail? Can you remove the plate and put some TIM on the back of the plate and reassemble the card? Screws should hold everything in place, right?

from what i see it looks like its some kind of brazing my next best guess honestly is the contact between core and IHS but idk if I want to do that. If fuck up im in shits creek.

1freedude · Sep 17, 2012, 08:58 PM

Sol, do you have the power to run a GTX460? I have one I got from hertz...not using it...you send me that card, I send you the 460...I troubleshoot your card.

Solaris17 · Sep 17, 2012, 09:06 PM

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Sol, do you have the power to run a GTX460? I have one I got from hertz...not using it...you send me that card, I send you the 460...I troubleshoot your card.

i have a corsair HX1000 I can run it but I dont have the means to ship it, this is something I need to handle in house. does anyone have a decent guide on removing an IHS?

[Ion] · Sep 17, 2012, 11:13 PM

Congratulations Team!

Over a million points again, and, for the first time I can remember, five teams listed on our overtake list!

Jstn7477 · Sep 18, 2012, 02:24 AM

I noticed tonight that my PPD has been down (the system with the GTX 470 goes down all the time because I need to stop playing with the overclock) but it looks like all my cards are getting hit with 76xx 5K point WUs which reduces GTX 460s to 11K PPD each, and I also discovered that the client on my machine that runs the GTX 550 and GT 440 froze up on "Updating" for I have no idea how long, so that's why I'm down to ~70K PPD. I hope to be up in the 90-100K range once I get my hardware sorted tomorrow.

At least we have Buck's monster machine on our team with its crazy PPD:watt ratio. Can't tell you how much I want a pair, one for folding and one for crunching.

[Ion] · Sep 18, 2012, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jstn7477

I noticed tonight that my PPD has been down (the system with the GTX 470 goes down all the time because I need to stop playing with the overclock) but it looks like all my cards are getting hit with 76xx 5K point WUs which reduces GTX 460s to 11K PPD each, and I also discovered that the client on my machine that runs the GTX 550 and GT 440 froze up on "Updating" for I have no idea how long, so that's why I'm down to ~70K PPD. I hope to be up in the 90-100K range once I get my hardware sorted tomorrow.

At least we have Buck's monster machine on our team with its crazy PPD:watt ratio. Can't tell you how much I want a pair, one for folding and one for crunching.

Yeah, I've been getting nothing but the 5187pt WUs on my GTX460s for about a week now. I dislike them greatly, it drops the PPD by ~1/3 and the cards run a good bit hotter (5-8c with fan fixed @ full). It will be interesting to see how the GTX470 does with them (it's supposed to be here Wednesday) and hopefully we'll get the juicy 5757pt WUs soon. Those were fun, as most days I could get six of them folded. Now I'm only getting 4 of the 5187s done a day

Jstn7477 · Sep 18, 2012, 02:40 AM

Yeah, I miss watching each of my pairs of 460s getting 30K PPD. Even my 750MHz GTX 465 is getting 11.6K PPD.

[Ion] · Sep 18, 2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jstn7477

Yeah, I miss watching each of my pairs of 460s getting 30K PPD. Even my 750MHz GTX 465 is getting 11.6K PPD.

I'm running them at 848MHz each and I'm getting barely 11.6k PPD each. Do you have the RAM OCed any?

I was getting 33k PPD with the 5757pt WUs, so it was quite amazing. I was hoping for 50k or a tad more with the 2 GTX460s + 1 GTX470, but it looks like I'm not going to be that lucky. Maybe we'll get the 5757pt WUs back again. Or even the 2510s. Those give me ~14.9k/card, and they're fun because they complete so fast

Jstn7477 · Sep 18, 2012, 02:46 AM

My GTX 460s all have the RAM set to 2000MHz in Afterburner, and the original Fermi cards I have get set to 1750MHz.

[Ion] · Sep 18, 2012, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jstn7477

My GTX 460s all have the RAM set to 2000MHz in Afterburner, and the original Fermi cards I have get set to 1750MHz.

I'll overclock my RAM in the morning when I'm able to watch the computer...that might help a bit. It's running at stock ATM. I'll also see how well the RAM on the GTX470 clocks

BUCK NASTY · Sep 18, 2012, 02:50 AM

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My GTX 460s all have the RAM set to 2000MHz in Afterburner, and the original Fermi cards I have get set to 1750MHz.

Ram o/c does nothing for F@H except creating more heat and crashing your cards. Reset it to stock.

Solaris17 · Sep 18, 2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Ram o/c does nothing for F@H except creating more heat and crashing your cards. Reset it to stock.

I can attest to this I had to deal with it on a first hand basis 2 GX2s are very VERY naughty children if you dont show them attention.......every day.......for months.

then i got rid of them

[Ion] · Sep 18, 2012, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Ram o/c does nothing for F@H except creating more heat and crashing your cards. Reset it to stock.

Thanks for that, I won't bother then

BUCK NASTY · Sep 18, 2012, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Solaris17

2 GX2s are very VERY naughty children if you dont show them attention.......every day.......for months.

LOL, love the reference.

BUCK NASTY · Sep 19, 2012, 01:28 AM

Lost power this morning so the rig sat idle for 6 hrs and lost 50K points. I have bumped the overclock to 2.875ghz(230 FSB) to make up for a little lost time.

[Ion] · Sep 19, 2012, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BUCK NASTY

Lost power this morning so the rig sat idle for 6 hrs and lost 50K points. I have bumped the overclock to 2.875ghz(230 FSB) to make up for a little lost time.

Ahh, that would explain why the WU was only worth ~310k pts vs ~350k. Still pretty sweet

Can you run it at 2.875 24/7? And can you set it to auto-login so if the power goes out again you don't lose time?

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Sep 17, 2012, 04:13 PM	#15377
Solaris17 Creator Solaris Utility DVD Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Reinacting scenes from platoon with Charlie Sheen Posts: 13,708 (4.83/day) Thanks: 4,366 Thanked 3,295 Times in 2,311 Posts System Specs	Well the 2 people I PMd couldnt help me. one doesnt remember and the other said they never owned a GTX260 what do you think my next ste p should be? I kinda want to take off the IHS but im not sure the stock cooler will make contact with the core. PNY probably wont do an RMA im not the original owner i cant provide a date a UPC or a location. __________________ I Made the Millionth post! \| "Please come to WI now so I can beat you over the head with a bratwurst."-Kreij PS3 mod 8500/8600GT Mod Guide Rebuild a Copperhead Heat Ware NF4 Ultra SLI Mod Solaris Utility DVD 4.0 Broken CPU pin guide Vista Mark

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Sep 17, 2012, 06:06 PM	#15382
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Sep 18, 2012, 02:24 AM	#15389
Jstn7477 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA Posts: 3,139 (2.30/day) Thanks: 388 Thanked 1,193 Times in 805 Posts System Specs	I noticed tonight that my PPD has been down (the system with the GTX 470 goes down all the time because I need to stop playing with the overclock) but it looks like all my cards are getting hit with 76xx 5K point WUs which reduces GTX 460s to 11K PPD each, and I also discovered that the client on my machine that runs the GTX 550 and GT 440 froze up on "Updating" for I have no idea how long, so that's why I'm down to ~70K PPD. I hope to be up in the 90-100K range once I get my hardware sorted tomorrow. At least we have Buck's monster machine on our team with its crazy PPD:watt ratio. Can't tell you how much I want a pair, one for folding and one for crunching. __________________ Intel Crunchers (27 threads): 2x 3770K 4.3G (14t), 2600K 4G (7t), X3210 (3t), P-M 735A, P4 HT 3G AMD Crunchers (11 cores):1100T 3.6G (3t), 1045T 3.4G (2t), X3 8550 2.5G, X2 4200+, T64 ML-37 AMD Folders (6272 GCN cores): 2x 7950 1125/1475, 7970 1150/1650, 7770 1100/1200 NV Folders (2336 GF10x + 1344 GK104 cores):GTX 470 & 465 720/1715, 4x 460 768MB 825/2000, GTS 450, 660Ti 1228/6000 HEATWARE

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Sep 18, 2012, 02:40 AM	#15391
Jstn7477 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA Posts: 3,139 (2.30/day) Thanks: 388 Thanked 1,193 Times in 805 Posts System Specs	Yeah, I miss watching each of my pairs of 460s getting 30K PPD. Even my 750MHz GTX 465 is getting 11.6K PPD. __________________ Intel Crunchers (27 threads): 2x 3770K 4.3G (14t), 2600K 4G (7t), X3210 (3t), P-M 735A, P4 HT 3G AMD Crunchers (11 cores):1100T 3.6G (3t), 1045T 3.4G (2t), X3 8550 2.5G, X2 4200+, T64 ML-37 AMD Folders (6272 GCN cores): 2x 7950 1125/1475, 7970 1150/1650, 7770 1100/1200 NV Folders (2336 GF10x + 1344 GK104 cores):GTX 470 & 465 720/1715, 4x 460 768MB 825/2000, GTS 450, 660Ti 1228/6000 HEATWARE

Sep 18, 2012, 02:46 AM	#15393
Jstn7477 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sarasota, Florida, USA Posts: 3,139 (2.30/day) Thanks: 388 Thanked 1,193 Times in 805 Posts System Specs	My GTX 460s all have the RAM set to 2000MHz in Afterburner, and the original Fermi cards I have get set to 1750MHz. __________________ Intel Crunchers (27 threads): 2x 3770K 4.3G (14t), 2600K 4G (7t), X3210 (3t), P-M 735A, P4 HT 3G AMD Crunchers (11 cores):1100T 3.6G (3t), 1045T 3.4G (2t), X3 8550 2.5G, X2 4200+, T64 ML-37 AMD Folders (6272 GCN cores): 2x 7950 1125/1475, 7970 1150/1650, 7770 1100/1200 NV Folders (2336 GF10x + 1344 GK104 cores):GTX 470 & 465 720/1715, 4x 460 768MB 825/2000, GTS 450, 660Ti 1228/6000 HEATWARE

Sep 19, 2012, 01:28 AM	#15399
BUCK NASTY F@H Mod & 4P Enthusiust Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL. U.S.A. Posts: 4,047 (1.91/day) Thanks: 3,379 Thanked 2,907 Times in 1,474 Posts System Specs	Lost power this morning so the rig sat idle for 6 hrs and lost 50K points. I have bumped the overclock to 2.875ghz(230 FSB) to make up for a little lost time. __________________ “I'll finally be able to drool over 8 gpu in one rig... And get sued by my wallet for violent physical damage...” -Feanor

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