New Smaller And Lighter PlayStation 3 To Hit The Worldwide Market

[Fourstaff]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

true, but on a forum like TPU i would recommend the gamers here save their money. i own a ps3 (the original from 2007) and it has been an awesome media player.

It really is not that much different, the cost of a reasonable graphics card + BD player is usually almost equivalent to the cost of a PS3. You get to have 2(!) entertainment devices, leave your dog on the PS3 while you enjoy the nets etc. Of course there is the cost of a TV which complicates things.

[n-ster]

Right now I own the ps3 for NHL 13 lol

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

true, but on a forum like TPU i would recommend the gamers here save their money. i own a ps3 (the original from 2007) and it has been an awesome media player.

Yep that is pretty much what mine gets used for these days is a Media Player. I have Playstation Plus I have downloaded all kinds of games(why not their "free")but then never end up playing them...

[TheMailMan78]

The next gen will not be as big a jump like in the past. Its not gonna be a Xbox to Xbox 360 and a PS2 to PS3 kinda jump. Its just not gonna happen. It will have some minor increases but that's about it. The WiiU is a great indicator without even having an inside line.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The next gen will not be as big a jump like in the past. Its not gonna be a Xbox to Xbox 360 and a PS2 to PS3 kinda jump. Its just not gonna happen. It will have some minor increases but that's about it. The WiiU is a great indicator without even having an inside line.

Not sure... Wii isn't about the best graphics and all that like the Sony and Microsoft consoles. I see your point but I'll have to wait and see considering we have almost nothing to really go on. The fact that we aren't seeing anything other than another revamp of the PS3 might be a good thing in terms of next gen hardware.

[Easy Rhino]

what is amazing is that the new PS3 design is essentially the same size as a typical bluray player.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by erocker

Not sure... Wii isn't about the best graphics and all that like the Sony and Microsoft consoles. I see your point but I'll have to wait and see considering we have almost nothing to really go on. The fact that we aren't seeing anything other than another revamp of the PS3 might be a good thing in terms of next gen hardware.

Both camps have said they are looking heavy into streaming games. Dunno if that will be the next gen or longer down the line. However they both have said do not expect such an epic jump as "gamers have come to expect a certain level of graphics". That means IMO combined with the streaming interest that they are gonna sell slightly bumped up hardware with a massive gimmick of some kind.......gimmick not graphics. Hell the WiiU destroys the 360 and PS3 in hardware. They could have called it a PS4 and it would have been a great update. See where I'm coming from?

Time will tell. I think the days you and I enjoyed (Atari, NES, SUPER NES, N64, PS2, XBOX, XBOX 360) are over in terms of hardware improvement.

I hope I'm wrong.

[NHKS]

Unboxing

PS3 Super Slim Unboxing - YouTube

[Delta6326]

It still has crappy wireless IEEE 802.11 b/g NO "N" ! and only 2x USB 2.0. PS3 it still one of the only modern day consoles that keeps downgrading its self with fewer features... This most likely means that next gen console will be held off till 2014. The newer PS3 will consume Approx. 190w!! While the Xbox 360 Approx. 100w... The PS3 still uses its crappy Cell Broadband Engine CPU and RSX GPU, with only 256MB XDR Main Ram and 256 GDDR3 VRAM. I don't see how these companies can keep coming out with the same thing, but just smaller. They must be afraid that if they don't come out with something really good then they will loose lots of money.

[theoneandonlymrk]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

The next gen will not be as big a jump like in the past. Its not gonna be a Xbox to Xbox 360 and a PS2 to PS3 kinda jump. Its just not gonna happen. It will have some minor increases but that's about it. The WiiU is a great indicator without even having an inside line.

i gota say thats a matter of opinion as i would take a ps3 as a big leap to the xbox 360 graphically i really would, so Dx11 capable hardware with much much better AA hardware etc will make the next gen an appropriate upgrade, though maybe not to a high end pc owner.

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Both camps have said they are looking heavy into streaming games.

in the future people will not own games. we will simply rent them long term since the gaming company could go belly up and then you are screwed...

[Solaris17]

i dont like the top loading thing.

Originally Posted by IGN dude

its 25% lighter and 20% less volume which is obviously how i measure my consoles too

lolololol

Originally Posted by erocker

Not sure... Wii isn't about the best graphics and all that like the Sony and Microsoft consoles. I see your point but I'll have to wait and see considering we have almost nothing to really go on. The fact that we aren't seeing anything other than another revamp of the PS3 might be a good thing in terms of next gen hardware.

I agree while I thnk its kind of a waste of time to release a 3rd PS3 revision looking at its size compared to my phat makes me have hope for the size of the PS4 if they can do with that what they have done with this "ultra slim" then I will gladly add a ps4 to my collection.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by theoneandonlymrk

i gota say thats a matter of opinion as i would take a ps3 as a big leap to the xbox 360 graphically i really would, so Dx11 capable hardware with much much better AA hardware etc will make the next gen an appropriate upgrade, though maybe not to a high end pc owner.

The PS3 is not more powerful then a 360. They are about the same no matter the hype from the camps. Personally all console games look like crap to me with the lack of AA and upscaling.

[_JP_]

Originally Posted by Solaris17

i dont like the top loading thing.

Me neither. I predict this one will have optical drive issues after a year of use. Either the sensors or the hinges will fail.

"Please close the DVD reader lid."
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[D007]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

save your money, build a PC.

Yup...

I was a console gamer until I tried pc.. Makes me sad people don't enjoy their games to the fullest.
It's like watching a movie in 480p, then watching it in 1080p..
Just no comparison..

[Solaris17]

Originally Posted by _JP_

Me neither. I predict this one will have optical drive issues after a year of use. Either the sensors or the hinges will fail.

"Please close the DVD reader lid."
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[Jstn7477]

Originally Posted by AsRock

How the hell are you getting those numbers ?. sorry but i have the second model and it's taken no more than 90w.

Yes i seen those crazy numbers on the net too and it's BS so maybe that's were ya getting it from.

http://www.eurasia.nu/wiki/index.php...0_motherboards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_36...t_of_revisions

PS3: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlaySta...Configurations

I wasn't implying that the console actually took 190w, but considering the XBOX 360 started with a 203w (now 115w) PSU and the PS3 started with a 380w (now 190w) PSU, who is the power winner here? Unless Sony really oversizes their PSUs which must cost a decent amount of money to do, it seems like the XBOX takes less based solely on power supply specifications.

PS3 has had a 40nm RSX and 45nm CBE for a while now, as well as XBOX 360 and its 45nm XCGPU.

[MN12BIRD]

I think it looks ugly compared to the slim model we have now. But whatever, if it's cheaper that's all that matters. It's good for late adopters who haven't got a PS3 yet.

Still though I gotta say... no N? I know its been mentioned. But I just realized the other day that the current slim model still only runs wireless G and I was surprised at that!

Lets see we can do 54Mbps peak wireless on a good day, if I line my outer walls in tin-foul and do a good luck dance or I can use a wire and get 1,000Mbps. Gigabit LAN and Wireless G sure go good together for contrast. They did on the original model back in 2006 and apparently they still do in 2012!

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by Delta6326

It still has crappy wireless IEEE 802.11 b/g NO "N" ! and only 2x USB 2.0. PS3 it still one of the only modern day consoles that keeps downgrading its self with fewer features...

Yep the release Phat is really still the only "Full Phat" version. 4 USB Ports and even a Card Reader(never found a use for it other than sticking my camera's card in just for kicks to see what it did) As for wireless yeah I guess it "could" be "N" by now but then I run mine wired and make use of it's Gigabit LAN in my network

Originally Posted by Solaris17

i dont like the top loading thing.

I must admit it does look kinda cheap. But then the Drives failing on the previous models was not an unknown occurrence either.

My WTF? is the Cooling? I mean it appears to have none that I can see. Mine has a behemoth of a cooler in it's and it certainly cooling it. Could prolly melt cheese on bread next to the vents when it's been going on for awhile.
I mean fine they have shrunk the process over time but it still has to be generating at least some significant amount of heat.

I remember playing LA Noire for a good session and had never heard my fans get that loud and was just waiting for it to YLOD on me from the strain.

[n-ster]

I have a Phat 40GB (that I put a Vertex 2 60GB SSD in) and the fans get loud pretty fast... A blow dryer on low/med basically

[Super XP]

Is this a joke? How about Sony get those PS4's out the door and let these ols PS3's die off.

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by n-ster

I have a Phat 40GB (that I put a Vertex 2 60GB SSD in) and the fans get loud pretty fast... A blow dryer on low/med basically

Any noticeable improvement with the SSD? I ended up yanking one of the 160's out of my laptop(It had "twins" like it born to RAID but Acer seemed to neglect to actually allow that feature) Just stuck the 60GB in the laptop. Just meant my "storage drive" got a little smaller.

[n-ster]

Huge improvement when I had my ps3 on CFW and my games on the HDD, but now I just installed the official firmware and apart from loading saves, nope... is there a way to "install" games on the HDD? lol

[MN12BIRD]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Is this a joke? How about Sony get those PS4's out the door and let these ols PS3's die off.

PS4's wont be out until 2014 IIRC and remember the slim PS2's came out two years before the PS3. The slim PSone actually came out around the same time the PS2 came out IIRC. It was just there as a cheap alternative. Even if the PS4 comes out next year there's nothing wrong with releasing a smaller version of the PS3 now as long as it's cheaper. Obviously it's cheaper to manufacture, so it should be cheaper to buy. I wouldn't be surprised if these new slim models drop the price down at least another $50. Maybe even $100. Imagine how many people will still buy a PS3 when the price drops down to $199!

I bought a slim PS2 when the PS3's were out. When the PS3's came out they were so expensive and there was no good games. I figured I'm going to get a cheap PS2 now so I can still play GT4! I thought it was awesome you could still buy new PS2's for under $200, and at the time the PS3 was like $500! Actually I think a lot of people still bought the slim PS2's at that time because PS2 games were still coming out. Once again it was just a cheap alternative for the non-hardcore console gamers. The Rock Band phenomenon didn't kick off until really late in the PS2's life too so that helped revamp PS2 sales after the slim model came out and into the PS3 era.

The PS3 is old. Six years old. But it was so slow to start out. No one bought them in the first year and it really didn't start to gain serious momentum until two years in. Really I might even guess 3 years in or around the time the slim PS3 came out is when it finally took off to the full extent. So I think Sony knows they have to push on with it for at least another year now.

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by n-ster

Huge improvement when I had my ps3 on CFW and my games on the HDD, but now I just installed the official firmware and apart from loading saves, nope... is there a way to "install" games on the HDD? lol

Well outside of getting the game of PSN(I have a ton of them now because of all the Freebies on PSN Plus) The game has to have the option to install to the HDD and any I have come across(GT5 comes to mind)just installs parts of it. I have some great games installed on my HDD at the moment RDR, Couple of Tomb Raiders, Motorstorm Apocalpyse. Now if only I would sit down and play them

Originally Posted by MN12BIRD

PS4's wont be out until 2014 IIRC and remember the slim PS2's came out two years before the PS3. The slim PSone actually came out around the same time the PS2 came out IIRC. It was just there as a cheap alternative. Even if the PS4 comes out next year there's nothing wrong with releasing a smaller version of the PS3 now as long as it's cheaper. Obviously it's cheaper to manufacture, so it should be cheaper to buy. I wouldn't be surprised if these new slim models drop the price down at least another $50. Maybe even $100. Imagine how many people will still buy a PS3 when the price drops down to $199!

I bought a slim PS2 when the PS3's were out. When the PS3's came out they were so expensive and there was no good games. I figured I'm going to get a cheap PS2 now so I can still play GT4! I thought it was awesome you could still buy new PS2's for under $200, and at the time the PS3 was like $500! Actually I think a lot of people still bought the slim PS2's at that time because PS2 games were still coming out. Once again it was just a cheap alternative for the non-hardcore console gamers. The Rock Band phenomenon didn't kick off until really late in the PS2's life too so that helped revamp PS2 sales after the slim model came out and into the PS3 era.

The PS3 is old. Six years old. But it was so slow to start out. No one bought them in the first year and it really didn't start to gain serious momentum until two years in. Really I might even guess 3 years in or around the time the slim PS3 came out is when it finally took off to the full extent. So I think Sony knows they have to push on with it for at least another year now.

LOL funny you should say that. I moved to Europe and sold all my PS2 gear all except my Memory Cards. So I missed out on GT4. So after getting my PS3 you wanna bet the first game I bought was GT4 Platinum. Well of course I wanted to use my GT3 save on my licenses.

Well on the official PS Forums there was a thread where they were mailing around a Memory Card Reader so you could dump your Memory Cards onto PS3(you get Virtual Memory Cards)
I signed up and it got mailed to me and I had been waiting to even start the game without my saves. I dumped my Memory Card(and my PS1 card as well) Well job done put in the post to the next user on the list.

Fired up GT4 all excited, went to the menu to load my GT3 saves....NADA, No saves found!
NTSC saves aren't compatible with PAL games. I was devastated. All the hours I put into GT3 trapped forever...