AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed - Page 19

Covert_Death · Sep 18, 2012, 01:05 AM

ummmmmmmmmmm

so vishera is gonna be a little bit better than bulldozer but the real improvements are gonna be steamroller

i would say BD = 100% PD = 110-115% and SR = 135-45%

Super XP · Sep 18, 2012, 01:36 AM

Obviously a lot of this is based on what AMD has revealed to date. They are continuing to keep Steamroller very quiet, with releasing minor details. Piledriver in the other hand is different, AMD is keeping it tight lipped. So October 2012 is going to be Piledriver month

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The refined Piledriver x86 architecture from AMD will take over the AM3+ platform very fast.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Eight...m-289906.shtml

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Although the company is being very hush about any new desktop processors, the computing architects and engineers in its R&D department
are hard at work developing the technology behind the architecture code-named Steamroller.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-R...s-289225.shtml

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AMD’s Steamroller to Be Faster Than Intel Haswell
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-s...l-289980.shtml
We’re sure AMD’s Dirk Meyer was envisioning something like Steamroller. He should have made the initial Bulldozer more like today’s Piledriver,
but at least we know that Bulldozer had some issues that have now been ironed out.

Many say that Steamroller will not be able to face Haswell, but the reality is that Steamroller is apparently a proper implementation of the FlexFP concept. The doubling of the cache, dispatch and fetching units will greatly increase the performance.

Many are estimating conservative values ranging between a 20% and a 30% performance improvement over the current Bulldozer processors, but sources inside the engineering department at AMD are reportedly expecting 45% performance improvements.

This puts AMD’s Steamroller beyond Ivy Bridge’s performance and right against Intel’s Haswell.

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Eleven AMD Zambezi processors EOL in Q4 12
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/28...s-eol-in-q4-12

eidairaman1 · Sep 18, 2012, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Obviously a lot of this is based on what AMD has revealed to date. They are continuing to keep Steamroller very quiet, with releasing minor details. Piledriver in the other hand is different, AMD is keeping it tight lipped. So October 2012 is going to be Piledriver month

Ok SuperXP, we Know Piledriver is to replace Bulldozer. Steam Roller to Replace Piledriver.

Piledriver is a stop gap.

I Just want to see gaming, everyday apps, encoding/CAD numbers. From End Users/Testers here/tomshardware/techspot/hardwareanalysis. Not Sources like Fudzilla, theenquier, reuters, ATInsider, or even leaks from AMD itself. I dont think this machine here will get a upgrade till Steamroller if it even supports this motherboard (970 Extreme 4)

Super XP · Sep 18, 2012, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Ok SuperXP, we Know Piledriver is to replace Bulldozer. Steam Roller to Replace Piledriver.

Piledriver is a stop gap.

I Just want to see gaming, everyday apps, encoding/CAD numbers. I dont think this machine here will get a upgrade till Steamroller if it even supports this motherboard (970 Extreme 4)

I am almost done, just one more glass of my Makedonikos Greek Red Wine. Don't mind me,

Now off to Left 4 Dead 2....

eidairaman1 · Sep 18, 2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

I am almost done, just one more glass of my Makedonikos Greek Red Wine. Don't mind me,

Now off to Left 4 Dead 2....

Hell give me some whiskey

Super XP · Sep 18, 2012, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Hell give me some whiskey

Yes, got some Irish stuff, though I prefer Greek Metaxa and Ouzo., Just keep water near by, that Metaxa is smooth, but burns as it goes down

Vinska · Sep 18, 2012, 08:03 AM

Note that I did not threw any speculation on the performance of PD. Why?
Let's say it this way:

When PD comes out, I am going to get one. Then I am going to run variety of benchmarks on both BD and PD running on the same clocks, to see what/if there is a IPC improvement & how well PD scales compared to BD.
I won't speak about it's performance until I do that, or at the very least, till someone does that for me. Because otherwise it would just be wild guessing.

Why am I saying this? Trying to tell You to stop guessing. Please don't say that PD is going to be crap. And please don't say it is going to be real good. At least hold that till it comes out, 'kay?

EDIT: I burned my breakfast 'cause of writing this

eidairaman1 · Sep 18, 2012, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinska

Note that I did not threw any speculation on the performance of PD. Why?
Let's say it this way:

When PD comes out, I am going to get one. Then I am going to run variety of benchmarks on both BD and PD running on the same clocks, to see what/if there is a IPC improvement & how well PD scales compared to BD.
I won't speak about it's performance until I do that, or at the very least, till someone does that for me. Because otherwise it would just be wild guessing.

Why am I saying this? Trying to tell You to stop guessing. Please don't say that PD is going to be crap. And please don't say it is going to be real good. At least hold that till it comes out, 'kay?

there is a 8350 already...

Vinska · Sep 18, 2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

there is a 8350 already...

Elaborate, please.

eidairaman1 · Sep 18, 2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinska

Elaborate, please.

read here

http://www.techpowerup.com/172376/AM...-Near-IDF.html

Vinska · Sep 18, 2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

read here

http://www.techpowerup.com/172376/AM...-Near-IDF.html

Well yeah, if You put it this way, it is already "available" for months now.
Yet, it is still unreleased & therefore has no retail availability.

Edit: already read that article before writing my two previous posts, btw.

eidairaman1 · Sep 18, 2012, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinska

Well yeah, if You put it this way, it is already "available" for months now.
Yet, it is still unreleased & therefore has no retail availability.

Edit: already read that article before writing my two previous posts, btw.

just waiting on NDA and performance numbers comparing the 8150 to the 8350, "Clocked at the same SPEED" Then Compared to Phenom II

Super XP · Sep 18, 2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

just waiting on NDA and performance numbers comparing the 8150 to the 8350, "Clocked at the same SPEED" Then Compared to Phenom II

Two comparisons, one at identified clocks and one both at stock. For price/performance.

Like I said before if performance is good over the current BD, then I'm in. Reason, now I think Steamroller may not be on AM3+. But who knows.

Vinska · Sep 18, 2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

Reason, now I think Steamroller may not be on AM3+. But who knows.

[captain_obvious]AMD employees I bet.[/captain_obvious]

Idea! Let's kidnap one and extort the information from him/her =d

nt300 · Sep 19, 2012, 07:34 PM

HD 8120 = Bulldozer = 0% (2011)

HD 8320 = Piledriver = 15% - 20% (2012)

HD 8520 = Steamroller = 35% - 45% (2013)

HD 8720 = Excavator = 70% - 85% (2014)

HD 8920 = Crane = 105% - 120% (2015)

Speculate your hearts out...
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=367705

Super XP · Sep 19, 2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nt300

HD 8120 = Bulldozer = 0% (2011)

HD 8320 = Piledriver = 15% - 20% (2012)

HD 8520 = Steamroller = 35% - 45% (2013)

HD 8720 = Excavator = 70% - 85% (2014)

HD 8920 = Crane = 105% - 120% (2015)

Speculate your hearts out...
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=367705

I wonder where you got that from

seronx · Sep 19, 2012, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

I wonder where you got that from

Steamroller and Excavator will have a different nomenclature.
Bulldozer/Piledriver: 8 total cores per monolithic die (Orochi)
new nomenclature -v
Steamroller/Excavator: 10 total cores per monolithic die (Viperfish)
new nomenclature -v
Etc.: 12 total cores per monolithic die

Bulldozer: 80% - 85%
Piledriver: 100%
Steamroller: 125% - 130%
Excavator: 140% - 145%

Speculate your behind off...

Super XP · Sep 21, 2012, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by erocker

I think you quoted the wrong person.

O.K. here is the post I read from Toms Hardware.

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AMD waits for the new-spec RAM to outperform the older-spec RAM at the same price OR for the newer memory to have the same performance for less money before jumping on the new RAM bandwagon. That's why AMD didn't adopt DDR2 until two years after Intel did and DDR3 until one year after Intel did. AMD also likes to wring out higher speeds of older-spec RAM, such as DDR-500 being supported on E-stepping A64s and DDR2-1066 being supported on AM2+ boards. Intel never went beyond standard-speed DDR-400 and DDR2-800.

NeoXF · Sep 21, 2012, 06:40 AM

Oh man... please don't let Steamroller suck... I hate monopoly, hell, duopoly isn't "great" either (as well as forced "competition"), nothing about the state or shape of society around me is "great", but at least it would be bearable, since technology is one of the few remaining things I'm still passionate about these days...

trickson · Sep 21, 2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

O.K. here is the post I read from Toms Hardware.

LOL.

erocker · Sep 21, 2012, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Super XP

O.K. here is the post I read from Toms Hardware.

I really have no idea why you keep quoting me. I was speaking about sockets, not RAM. While RAM can have a factor in a socket it is not what I was referring to.

Dent1 · Sep 21, 2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NeoXF

Oh man... please don't let Steamroller suck... I hate monopoly, hell, duopoly isn't "great" either (as well as forced "competition"), nothing about the state or shape of society around me is "great", but at least it would be bearable, since technology is one of the few remaining things I'm still passionate about these days...

People who think performance alone is going to save AMD are deluded.

Whether Steamroller sucks or not, there will still be a monopoly with a corporation the size of Intel around. The only way we can see a level playing field as far as market share is if AMD drastically gains support via a more lucrative marketing campaign or if they continue to diversify their strangle hold in the mobile & server arena and bully Intel out.

eidairaman1 · Sep 21, 2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dent1

People who think performance alone is going to save AMD are deluded.

Whether Steamroller sucks or not, there will always be a monopoly with a corporation the size of Intel around. The only way we can see a level playing field as far as market share is if AMD drastically gains support via a more lucrative marketing campaign or if they continue to diversify their strangle hold in the marketplace and server arena and bully Intel out.

It was the same way back during A64 and at that time AMD was literally tearing them a new asshole, just that intel had so much control that they were trying to use underhanded techniques with retailers/etailers and OEMs, despite their CPU being a Dog that Even the P3 was beating.

NHKS · Sep 21, 2012, 08:25 AM

anybody seen this pre-order page yet?

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi...=1&s_all=HKBOX

apparently, the FX/Vishera cpu prices start where the trinity A-x end

Vinska · Sep 21, 2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NHKS

anybody seen this pre-order page yet?

http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi...=1&s_all=HKBOX

http://img.techpowerup.org/120921/FX...0pre-order.jpg

apparently, the FX/Vishera cpu prices start where the trinity A-x end

aw gee wiz, do I see a 16MB L[undefined] cache there?

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Vinska Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Kaunas, Lithuania Posts: 462 (0.69/day) Thanks: 297 Thanked 200 Times in 121 Posts System Specs	Note that I did not threw any speculation on the performance of PD. Why? Let's say it this way: When PD comes out, I am going to get one. Then I am going to run variety of benchmarks on both BD and PD running on the same clocks, to see what/if there is a IPC improvement & how well PD scales compared to BD. I won't speak about it's performance until I do that, or at the very least, till someone does that for me. Because otherwise it would just be wild guessing. Why am I saying this? Trying to tell You to stop guessing. Please don't say that PD is going to be crap. And please don't say it is going to be real good. At least hold that till it comes out, 'kay? EDIT: I burned my breakfast 'cause of writing this __________________ Why do you wear glasses if you're deaf? Code: while (1) { alone(); } Last edited by Vinska; Sep 18, 2012 at 08:12 AM.

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Sep 19, 2012, 07:34 PM	#465
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