Borderlands 2

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by newbsandwich

How much do y'all think the PhysX adds to the game? From that video, looks to really add to the immersion. I haven't ever used it before, but if I can get a card for cheap, might get one.

Any recommendations on a card? I have a 6970 currently.

I'd OC the snot out of your 2600k, set it to medium, and see if that makes you happy. The 2600k is capable of playing it on medium, frames will dip now and then. But having played it both on Med and High, the only real difference I see the the amount of blood. And on High, the amount of blood is unreal, it's just everywhere. Medium is a much better amount, still over the top, but it fits the game.

If your happy with the performance, then you just end up saving yourself some cash. Put those extra threads to work, people always say, "get the 2500k, you don't need those threads for gaming". Time to prove them wrong.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I'd OC the snot out of your 2600k, set it to medium, and see if that makes you happy. The 2600k is capable of playing it on medium, frames will dip now and then. But having played it both on Med and High, the only real difference I see the the amount of blood. And on High, the amount of blood is unreal, it's just everywhere. Medium is a much better amount, still over the top, but it fits the game.

If your happy with the performance, then you just end up saving yourself some cash. Put those extra threads to work, people always say, "get the 2500k, you don't need those threads for gaming". Time to prove them wrong.

I kicked the card up as far as MSI afterburner would let me.



The lowest I get in really bloody firefights is 40FPS all max 1366x768. GTX470 is at 800c/1750m and the 9800GT 715c/1050m. Max load I saw on the 9800GT is 70%.

[newbsandwich]

Thanks for the input Kurgan, I'll give that a try. Should be getting BL2 tonight, i'll see how it runs normally, then I'll try that.

Quick question, what resolution were you playing it on medium at? I normally play at native, 1900x1200

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

I'd OC the snot out of your 2600k, set it to medium, and see if that makes you happy. The 2600k is capable of playing it on medium, frames will dip now and then. But having played it both on Med and High, the only real difference I see the the amount of blood. And on High, the amount of blood is unreal, it's just everywhere. Medium is a much better amount, still over the top, but it fits the game.

If your happy with the performance, then you just end up saving yourself some cash. Put those extra threads to work, people always say, "get the 2500k, you don't need those threads for gaming". Time to prove them wrong.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by cdawall

I kicked the card up as far as MSI afterburner would let me.

http://img.techpowerup.org/120921/Capture023.jpg

The lowest I get in really bloody firefights is 40FPS all max 1366x768. GTX470 is at 800c/1750m and the 9800GT 715c/1050m. Max load I saw on the 9800GT is 70%.

Seems our results are about the same then. I'm assuming res won't matter too much for particle effects since there should still be the same amount of particles.

The 9800 will have to do for now, but just kinda sucks going from 100 - 120 fps running and gunning, then a head poips off and blood comes out and I drop to 35 - 50 fps. The higher end of that spectrum is fine, but dropping 70% or so of my fps that quickly to 35 is noticeable. Also the load I see on my 9800 is usually 89%.

Originally Posted by newbsandwich

Thanks for the input Kurgan, I'll give that a try. Should be getting BL2 tonight, i'll see how it runs normally, then I'll try that.

Quick question, what resolution were you playing it on medium at? I normally play at native, 1900x1200

I tried Medium with at 1920x1080 with my 2600k when I was at like 4.5ghz and it was ok, the dips got a bit low if I was up close in a crazy fight, but some extra mhz might change that. Just have to try it and see if it makes you happy.

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Seems our results are about the same then. I'm assuming res won't matter too much for particle effects since there should still be the same amount of particles.

The 9800 will have to do for now, but just kinda sucks going from 100 - 120 fps running and gunning, then a head poips off and blood comes out and I drop to 35 - 50 fps. The higher end of that spectrum is fine, but dropping 70% or so of my fps that quickly to 35 is noticeable. Also the load I see on my 9800 is usually 89%.

The higher load must be the higher res. I may plop the GTX 295 in and see how it does for physx.

[mlee49]

Dooooeeit!!

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by mlee49

Dooooeeit!!

Don't mind the mess I am waiting for new blocks to retube the loop.



Will see how it performs shortly.

[Crap Daddy]

Originally Posted by cdawall

The lowest I get in really bloody firefights is 40FPS all max 1366x768.

Here's an interesting CPU performance chart:

[eidairaman1]

funny Claptrap

Borderlands -ClapTrap web series (1 to 4) - YouTub...

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by Crap Daddy

Here's an interesting CPU performance chart:

http://static.techspot.com/articles-...bench/CPU1.png

On that note I kicked the CPU up to 4ghz. With the GTX 295 and 4ghz phenom frames dipped at the lowest I saw to 45FPS.

[brandonwh64]

This game does take a hit with physx

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

This game does take a hit with physx

u dont think cuz ur nv is in x1 spot

[mlee49]

I just played through 5 hours straight. Wow, it was fun!

[cdawall]

GTX 295 at 700/1100 seems to fix my physx issues didn't drop below 50FPS even during boss battles running 1920x1080.

I attached a sensor log from the GTX 295 to give an idea how well it loads down that cards memory and GPU. Was seeing around a 50% max load with 300-400mb of memory used for physx.

Downside to the 295 is it seems to be starving the GTX 470 for air as temps on that went up 10-15C or so peaking at 84C.

[johnspack]

How much for this game, it actually looks like fun?

[Eternalchaos]

Originally Posted by johnspack

How much for this game, it actually looks like fun?

Depends on if you want the future DLC or not http://store.steampowered.com/app/49520/

[johnspack]

Lord, 60us... guess I'll keep playing pacman.....

[erocker]

Green Man Gaming has it for 10% off, but if you can wait the game will eventually go on sale on Steam.

[johnspack]

Wahh.. I'm trying to buy 2 gtx480s to replace my 2 gtx285s for my 51st birthday... I have a whole rack of other problems to deal with before I spend this much for a game... although dammit the first game I've seen in a long time I actually like....

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by cdawall

GTX 295 at 700/1100 seems to fix my physx issues didn't drop below 50FPS even during boss battles running 1920x1080.

I attached a sensor log from the GTX 295 to give an idea how well it loads down that cards memory and GPU. Was seeing around a 50% max load with 300-400mb of memory used for physx.

Not sure if this is how it works, but I'm assuming that with the 295 as well, it's only loading on 1 core, so it's basically just a GTX 275 for Physx.

Originally Posted by johnspack

Lord, 60us... guess I'll keep playing pacman.....

The game just came out a few days ago, now days $60 is pretty standard for big titles, a 4 pack if you can get in one is about $41. Or if you haven't played Borderlands 1, that goes on sale pretty often.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Not sure if this is how it works, but I'm assuming that with the 295 as well, it's only loading on 1 core, so it's basically just a GTX 275 for Physx

True. PhysX will only work with one GPU.

[eidairaman1]

from the Mouth of the green

http://www.nvidia.com/object/physx_faq.html#q4

[erocker]

Lies:

Can I use an NVIDIA GPU as a PhysX processor and a non-NVIDIA GPU for regular display graphics?
No. There are multiple technical connections between PhysX processing and graphics that require tight collaboration between the two technologies. To deliver a good experience for users, NVIDIA PhysX technology has been fully verified and enabled using only NVIDIA GPUs for graphics.

[eidairaman1]

way to bypass it is those older drivers w/e

[cdawall]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

Not sure if this is how it works, but I'm assuming that with the 295 as well, it's only loading on 1 core, so it's basically just a GTX 275 for Physx.

Yes it is basically a GTX 275. Especially since this card has some kind of glitch with this mobo were it only loads one gpu when mated with a dissimilar card.