cpu upgrade?

[eidairaman1]

AMD FX-4170 vs AMD FX-4100 vs AMD Phenom II X4 955...

FX is equivalent of a P4 Requires ridiculous clocks just to perform fast.

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by Norton

if it's 965BE vs an FX-Quad core.... go for the 965BE

Otherwise the FX-6100 is overall a better choice than the 965BE. Runs cooler too.

Look at my sig- I run them all except the FX-8120 (which I will add to the list next month)

*Note- The 1045T is also a good chip but I would still buy a 6100 within that price range

Yea, from reading the test and because the 6100 is only $109. I think I will have to go with that one.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by krammuel

Yea, from reading the test and because the 6100 is only $109. I think I will have to go with that one.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...IwAQ#scoring=p

https://www.google.com/products/cata...QrQQ#scoring=p

Those are the cheapest I can find for 1090T and 1100T

otherwise FX6200 Id look at honestly over 6100

read this bench http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Process...er-Consumption

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

AMD FX-4170 vs AMD FX-4100 vs AMD Phenom II X4 955...

FX is equivalent of a P4 Requires ridiculous clocks just to perform fast.

Sorry I started to post when I saw your post and was watching the videos.
Well I am still undecided then.
After watching a lot of vids now, I am less then impressed with FX series processors.

[xxdozer322]

stick with something thats know to perform good. i say go with the 965, its never let me down

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by krammuel

Sorry I started to post when I saw your post and was watching the videos.
Well I am still undecided then.
After watching a lot of vids now, I am less then impressed with FX series processors.

Id still recommend the FX 6100 or 6200 Since its hard to find a 1090T or 1100T for that matter in price+ shipping charge, If You really want a hex core.

Heres the deal if youre going to overclock you might aswell spend cash on a CPU cooler.

If Not use the stock cooler

My bros machine here uses a Phenom II X2 555 BE that has been successfully unlocked to a X4 BE 955/B55 CPU (All those run at 3.2GHz)

The quads are still good actually if you can find them- 955, 960T, 965, 970, 975, 980 all would work in that board. Honestly I hear from here that Piledriver Parts are in tow.

[krammuel]

Well thanks everyone for your input
My brain is fried for now, but if anyone would like to add something to this, Please do. I will keep reading up everyday until I make the leap and buy whatever I decide at the time is the best route.

Thanks again

[krammuel]

Well I am back to another problem!?! edairaman1 kinda knows the problems I have been having lol
Just when I thought things were fine for now the stupid thing crashed again
This time (has the last few times) when it is about to show the boot screen it instead says the "BootMng" fine is missing. So as I did for last few times I restart and go into bios. What I thought was when that happened it was resetting the bios to Defualt on me. It is and that is annoying as hell to start. So would go through and reset everything the way I had it (not touching the OC settings) starting with the storage format "AHCI". which is what I had it on when I installed windows but appearently not. Because it will start up fine if set for IDE mode only.

Isn't IDE mode going to be slower? or does it make a difference?
I have always set to AHCI mode because it was always recommended for windows per the board manufacture.

Thanks for any help again

[Widjaja]

IDE mode vs AHCI is only a difference when using an SSD.
It mainly introduces some enhancements which an SSD makes use of.
Windows 7 will automatically install AHCI drivers while Windows XP will not.

[eidairaman1]

Hey Krammuel, Restore the clock speed of that CPU and Lock the 4th core back down, you had a bad core from looks of it (common on 720s)

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Hey Krammuel, Restore the clock speed of that CPU and Lock the 4th core back down, you had a bad core from looks of it (common on 720s)

It already did when it crashed and I haven't unlocked it since. This actually happened when I just tried to OC the cpu a little (took it to 3Ghz, without the 4th core) just to see if I could. I figured if I burned the 720 up I was replacing anyways.

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by Widjaja

IDE mode vs AHCI is only a difference when using an SSD.
It mainly introduces some enhancements which an SSD makes use of.
Windows 7 will automatically install AHCI drivers while Windows XP will not.

Apparently not since it is running on a SSD drive in IDE mode

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by xxdozer322

stick with something thats know to perform good. i say go with the 965, its never let me down

I agree with you. But the $115 price isn't that bad for the better Phenom II. I will probably opt for that then. or maybe 965BE without a fan (since I can use the 1 that came with my 720BE), it;s only $79

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by krammuel

I agree with you. But the $115 price isn't that bad for the better Phenom II. I will probably opt for that then. or maybe 965BE without a fan (since I can use the 1 that came with my 720BE), it;s only $79

check opn/sku first on amds site before buying a cpu. to ensure youre getting a be model

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

check opn/sku first on amds site before buying a cpu. to ensure youre getting a be model

Here is the boxed BE: HDZ965FBGMBOX

And here is the Proc only ($79): HDZ965FBK4DGM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...72719&csid=_61
These are the only numbers I see to compare. Different retail store so they don't give same info.

edit:

[Super XP]

Wait for Piledriver to get released in October 2012, then you will have a better choice.

[krammuel]

Update:

4th core still unlocked and still running fine.
Only kinda weird thing is when it is running for some time (3+hours) the core temp drops to 0c. OK! I think but can't run prime95 to long cause I have no idea what the core temp is. I mean right now it is reading 29c (but haven't been running it hard to check things on weather it is going to be fine or find any issues with running various programs.

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by Super XP

Wait for Piledriver to get released in October 2012, then you will have a better choice.

Will piledriver be compatible on my MoBo? I hope to think ASRock will update bios to make it compatible but being this is really made for AM3 more so (does support the bulldozer procs tho).
Or do you mean the prices will go down for FX and such?

[mastrdrver]

Piledriver will be better then Bulldozer and will be able to work on your board. Rumors are saying sometime early in October (1st week) is when the release is.

[OneMoar]

Originally Posted by krammuel

Update:

4th core still unlocked and still running fine.
Only kinda weird thing is when it is running for some time (3+hours) the core temp drops to 0c. OK! I think but can't run prime95 to long cause I have no idea what the core temp is. I mean right now it is reading 29c (but haven't been running it hard to check things on weather it is going to be fine or find any issues with running various programs.

unlocking messes with the core-sensors ignore any core readings as they wont be correct
unlocking a chip usually makes the sensors read 0 or negative values I am surprised it gives any reading at all
if you are running a aftermarket cooler I would not even bother with the temps but the stock phenom II cooler is junk so ...

[Widjaja]

Originally Posted by krammuel

Apparently not since it is running on a SSD drive in IDE mode

Did you install windows 7 while IDE mode was enabled?
Windows 7 will BSOD if I switch to IDE mode.

[xBruce88x]

http://www.halowayexpress.com/produc...3SIV2XD99.html

there's a 1090T for around $120, and there are 14 in stock. though I don't know much about the seller.

[krammuel]

Originally Posted by Widjaja

Did you install windows 7 while IDE mode was enabled?
Windows 7 will BSOD if I switch to IDE mode.

No. Thats what I was saying I always set to AHCI because it is always recommended for windows.

So I don't understand how it is set for IDE?!?