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Old Sep 25, 2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Intel Outlines Retirement Plan for Multiple Core Processors

Intel has this week revealed the discontinuance schedule for a lot of its older, 32 nm processors, including the Celeron G440 and the Core i5-2310, i5-2320, i5-2400, i5-2400S, i5-2405S, i5-2500, i5-2500K, i5-2500S, i5-2500T, i7-2600, i7-2600K, i7-2600S and i7-2700K. Interestingly enough, there's also a 22 nm chip on the black list, the 3.1 GHz Core i5-3450 which was released just last quarter.

All the CPUs listed are set to be available for orders until March 29, 2013, and will continue to ship while supplies last (for the boxed versions) or until September 27, 2013 (for the tray versions).

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Wow the ix-2xxx series being "put out to pasture" already. Are they really that old? Surely they must still be pulling a fair amount of sales still?
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The i7-2600 was launched in Q1 2011, which will make it 2 years old at that time (boxed version) or 2.5 years old for tray version.
Alas, this is for ordering....
You might be able to get one much much later if supplies last...
But why would you?!
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The i7-2600 was launched in Q1 2011, which will make it 2 years old at that time (boxed version) or 2.5 years old for tray version.
Alas, this is for ordering....
You might be able to get one much much later if supplies last...
But why would you?!
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The i7-2700k is still a very solid CPU
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although this is unnecessary for us consumers, I see is 2 possible reasons:
-that Intel want to make way for 22nm procs (IBs), i.e, sell more Ivy Bridge cpus(3xxx).. as ppl still consider 2xxx cpus in their purchases which in a way can cannibalise sales of IBs..
-probably their 22nm tech is good enough(yields) to take over from 32nm as mainstream and they probably dont want to run two nodes mainstream at the same time.. remember that 32nm started yields in 2008 began selling in 2009 (if i remember right).. according to below chart from intel my comment seems true.. 22nm currently seems to have 'matured' based on defect density trends earlier than 32nm.. 32nm spanned over 3 years while 22nm less than 2 years

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Are they really that old? Surely they must still be pulling a fair amount of sales still?
I dont think that really matters to intel, if they have their next gen out and the old parts are competeing with the new parts on price why not remove that option, its pointless to continue makeing them to me(for intel not consumers).
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seriously? wtf. I guess I'm not going to be able to play with this gen when I can afford it other then scoring a used chip if theres much around.

Nice job Intel. Its nice to keep updated but not so freakin fast when new chips only surpass previous gen by like 5-10% and the cost of new gen doesn't make it seem feasible. I'm lucky to just be playing with 1156 which seems fine for me for todays tasks that I run.
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I'm lucky to just be playing with 1156 which seems fine for me for todays tasks that I run.
That is the case, overall, os this is why they truly see this as a non-issue. I'd muc hrather see 22 nm chips on store shelves myself, since the 22nm chips offer everything the 32nm ones do, plus better features and lower power consumption, while still using the 32nm socket(SKT1155).

Technology really needs to keep progressing, not sit idle for a couple of years, so you're really not missing anything. The incremental upgrades that are offered don't truly benefit most running 32nm chips.


If anything, Haswell is your re-entry into Intel, anyway, for about the same dollar too, I'd imagine.
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seriously? wtf. I guess I'm not going to be able to play with this gen when I can afford it other then scoring a used chip if theres much around.
"This Gen" is ivybridge ...

Considering that most chips go through OEMs--which have all moved on to ivybridge cpus--it makes sense to stop production of the PREVIOUS generation.

Really, how long do you expect them to make a chip? It'd be one thing if IB & SB used different sockets, but they don't.

Also, they're discontinuing these in MARCH. Even if that meant immediate removal of products from all distributors (and it doesn't) you'd have 6 months to save up for a SB system.


"Oh, woe is me! Intel only gave me 6 months warning that they'll stop selling a 2 year old product! What ever shall I do?"
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i think they made this move for the next coming hasswell ,but if you think about a good performance system right now is much better bring a i5 2500k or 2550k ,2600k why cost lower and the difference in performance are not incledible vs iby bridge , lets see xd
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"This Gen" is ivybridge ...

Considering that most chips go through OEMs--which have all moved on to ivybridge cpus--it makes sense to stop production of the PREVIOUS generation.

Really, how long do you expect them to make a chip? It'd be one thing if IB & SB used different sockets, but they don't.

Also, they're discontinuing these in MARCH. Even if that meant immediate removal of products from all distributors (and it doesn't) you'd have 6 months to save up for a SB system.


"Oh, woe is me! Intel only gave me 6 months warning that they'll stop selling a 2 year old product! What ever shall I do?"
but this dosnot mean you have to follow the maketing move of intel ,if for you a good cpu old 2 years is to throw away wel good for you that you have the money for every single new stuff comes out
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seriously? wtf. I guess I'm not going to be able to play with this gen when I can afford it other then scoring a used chip if theres much around.
There's always eBay....
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but this dosnot mean you have to follow the maketing move of intel ,if for you a good cpu old 2 years is to throw away wel good for you that you have the money for every single new stuff comes out
I don't get your point. If you think your cpu is good enough to withstand current tasks, continue to use it. Who banned you to do so? Well still there is lots of people using Core 2 duo. There is no point of continue to produce last generation products, when there is new gen is available. Because they have to concentrate on producing next gen. This is how, you can keep up with the phase you set.
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I don't get your point. If you think your cpu is good enough to withstand current tasks, continue to use it. Who banned you to do so? Well still there is lots of people using Core 2 duo. There is no point of continue to produce last generation products, when there is new gen is available. Because they have to concentrate on producing next gen. This is how, you can keep up with the phase you set.
what i mean is from my prospective read a comment like is 2years old is normal = i have to follow the marketing ,i dont get people who follow this things like the 20000000 idiots that have run to bring the iphone 5 another marketing move
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well... if AMD isnt able to make a worthwile Processor, by architecture, why cant they just be that shrinking addicted as Intel is? 22 Nm on a reimproved Phenom architecture with a BD Memcontroller is what i dream of!
Except APUs, i see no bright future for AMD, anytime soon...they are just limping behind in literally every possible aspect i could think of... that really kills me as a person that used AMD for a long time, and that wished that Market Shares would equalize between the Blue Team and the Red Team,somewhere in the future
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Since the 22nm chips offer everything the 32nm ones do, plus better features and lower power consumption, while still using the 32nm socket(SKT1155).
Yep and for Intel there's better money in 22Nm part! Why would they say, "let’s keep selling the less profitable 32Nm". They'd just be scavenging lower profit sales from themselves. The only thing that folk didn't care for was incremental performance, and IB appeared to run hotter when OC, because of the heat spreader compound being lower cheapened... but folk still are saying take my money and Intel obliges.
Come March Intel SB's will approach 2-1/2 years, IB is here embrace it.
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LOL! And when you think that my Core 2 Quad Q9650 is still trashing current AMD offer in games I start to laugh, hehe.
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There was(is?) a $20 difference in a $200 or $300 chip.

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what i mean is from my prospective read a comment like is 2years old is normal = i have to follow the marketing ,i dont get people who follow this things like the 20000000 idiots that have run to bring the iphone 5 another marketing move
This really has nothing to do with marketing but with logistics/economics. Intel's goal: Make the most (profit) out of their fabrication plants. When 2xnm is more economical than 32nm it makes sense to stop 32nm production.

It says nothing as to whether you should get a new processor or if a 2 year old processor is sub-par. It only says that their fabrication plants are better off not making these processors anymore to maximize profit for Intel.
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If you check prices for say the core i5 2500k its not much less expensive than the 3570k [well here in aus anyway] so who wouldnt pay 10-20$ and get i.v,? is my point.
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I don't get why everyone is upset. The price difference between a 2500k and 3570k is minimal ($10-20). There is no reason to be upset, your getting better perf per core, a smaller chip with less power consumption and HD 4000 graphics for anyone using them in a htpc as an example.
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I don't get why everyone is upset. The price difference between a 2500k and 3570k is minimal ($10-20). There is no reason to be upset, your getting better perf per core, a smaller chip with less power consumption and HD 4000 graphics for anyone using them in a htpc as an example.
I guess it's just "nostalgia" They were pretty big "game changers" and are not getting any "weaker" Mine happily ticks away at 4.6 for no other reason than that it can...
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I guess it's just "nostalgia" They were pretty big "game changers" and are not getting any "weaker" Mine happily ticks away at 4.6 for no other reason than that it can...
I get the nostalgia bit, if I could get my hand on a QX9650 that is not insanely overpriced I would jump on it in a heartbeat. My 775 system is still kicking and screaming
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The headline makes me giggle.

Intel's going single core!
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