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Old Sep 26, 2012, 11:34 PM   #18826
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I live up here in New Hampshire. I woke up yesterday morning and it was 42*F outside at 7:00am. It didn't get warmer than 72*F. Its definitely started cooling down up here. My AC is unplugged and I'm getting ready to take it out for the season.
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10-15°C here. Not the temperature range where I want my radiator to not be working. I'm freezing my butt off. :S
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 12:16 AM   #18828
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Yep, that sounds about right. Glad someone invented air conditioning because probably 99% of places down here have one. It also never snows except in some extreme cases in the panhandle area, so no road salt and hardly any rusty cars down here.
I always wondered... if all of the AC units in Florida were shut off at the same time, would the temp drop outside?

You're right about cars not rusting from the bottom up but I've seen them rust from the top down after the UV from the sun wears off the paint.... and then the guts from the love bugs eats through the paint some more

We had snow in Orlando one night in December when I lived down there- weird
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Brandon's X4 940 and board should be here tomorrow. I already have my last case (a gutted Sony Vaio from 2002), 4GB DDR2-800 and a PSU ready to go, but need to find an HDD for it. I do have a few IDE ones left so I'll probably end up having one share the IDE cable with a DVD drive, or I can put Ubuntu on a USB stick and install it, or I can be crafty and use a donor system to install it on and swap drives since Linux isn't all "OMG NEW HARDWARE MUST BECOME UNGENUINE AND BSOD" like Windows.

Speaking of Ubuntu, my oldest machines seem to be crunching much better on it. Don't know if I just had a good day or something today, but ~1200 PPD for ~2.5GHz Athlon X2 and a C2D E6400 seems better than when they were running Windows.
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Brandon's X4 940 and board should be here tomorrow. I already have my last case (a gutted Sony Vaio from 2002), 4GB DDR2-800 and a PSU ready to go, but need to find an HDD for it. I do have a few IDE ones left so I'll probably end up having one share the IDE cable with a DVD drive, or I can put Ubuntu on a USB stick and install it, or I can be crafty and use a donor system to install it on and swap drives since Linux isn't all "OMG NEW HARDWARE MUST BECOME UNGENUINE AND BSOD" like Windows.

Speaking of Ubuntu, my oldest machines seem to be crunching much better on it. Don't know if I just had a good day or something today, but ~1200 PPD for ~2.5GHz Athlon X2 and a C2D E6400 seems better than when they were running Windows.
That's quite the boost! For reference, I'm getting 950PPD from a 2GHZ Penryn PentDC
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Old Sep 27, 2012, 01:25 AM   #18831
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That's not exactly what I wanted to hear

I'm going to try and get the seller to RMA it--he said that he would if I had any issues.
wiggle the cooler when you hit the power button. my FF was cooler pressure and CPU seating the third time. check the socket pins/.
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wiggle the cooler when you hit the power button. my FF was cooler pressure and CPU seating the third time. check the socket pins/.
The socket looks OK, there's some dust in it, but I'm afraid that if I try to remove it I'll bend some of the pens. Was there too much pressure or too little?

I'm going to try again in a few minutes and see if I can get anywhere.

EDIT: Still no go. No beeps, no POST, straight to FF. I think the board is just toast
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So I began fiddling with my desktop again. Memory this time.

Do you know if there is any gain in fiddling with the lesser timings? (tRAS and tRC in this case.)
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So I began fiddling with my desktop again. Memory this time.

Do you know if there is any gain in fiddling with the lesser timings? (tRAS and tRC in this case.)
Basically nothing. Even single-channel vs triple-channel RAM has practically no impact on WCG performance. Higher CPU clock speeds help far more
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Alas, higher clocks is not possible. :S

And asked here because it's where I chill with my homies, not because I was interested in it with relation to WCG only.
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Ion, let me know exactly what screenshot off WCG.ORG would get you the PPD runtime information to calculate Avg PPD for my G530 and I will post it up later tonight (time permitting).
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So I began fiddling with my desktop again. Memory this time.

Do you know if there is any gain in fiddling with the lesser timings? (tRAS and tRC in this case.)
WCG doesn't use a ton of memory. Anything to reduce your memory latency might help but since the data sets are pretty small, the majority of information is going to get cached so it hits your CPU cache more. The only time it will hit memory harder is if your cache is smaller. Repetitive tasks love cache.
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Brandon's X4 940 and board should be here tomorrow. I already have my last case (a gutted Sony Vaio from 2002), 4GB DDR2-800 and a PSU ready to go, but need to find an HDD for it. I do have a few IDE ones left so I'll probably end up having one share the IDE cable with a DVD drive, or I can put Ubuntu on a USB stick and install it, or I can be crafty and use a donor system to install it on and swap drives since Linux isn't all "OMG NEW HARDWARE MUST BECOME UNGENUINE AND BSOD" like Windows.

Speaking of Ubuntu, my oldest machines seem to be crunching much better on it. Don't know if I just had a good day or something today, but ~1200 PPD for ~2.5GHz Athlon X2 and a C2D E6400 seems better than when they were running Windows.
1200 ppd for the 2.5 x2 should be easy. I average close to 1k ppd @2.2
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WCG->My Grid->My Statistics->Device Statistics -> Click on hostname

You'll get better info if you let the system run for a few more days
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well since the vintage X2 3800+ rig bit the dust, i've decided to pool resources and cash into my daughter's upcoming PC. Im going to buy a case tommorow and then every 2 to 3 weeks buy another piece. I have everything picked out but the CPU and Mobo. Do the FX 6000 and 8000 do well in WCG? or should I just build a Core i3/i5 machine? Gaming isn't of particular importance atm, my kid is only 10 but this rig will def be a 24/7 cruncher and would appreciate advice on which route to go.
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sounds good. let me know as I can ship it out to you ASAP
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well since the vintage X2 3800+ rig bit the dust, i've decided to pool resources and cash into my daughter's upcoming PC. Im going to buy a case tommorow and then every 2 to 3 weeks buy another piece. I have everything picked out but the CPU and Mobo. Do the FX 6000 and 8000 do well in WCG? or should I just build a Core i3/i5 machine? Gaming isn't of particular importance atm, my kid is only 10 but this rig will def be a 24/7 cruncher and would appreciate advice on which route to go.
Norton can give you more exact numbers, but yes, they do quite well. If you have a FX-8 at 4GHz that should be 4.5-5k PPD or a bit more
A FX-6 will do ~75% of the PPD at the same clock speed
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Norton can give you more exact numbers, but yes, they do quite well. If you have a FX-8 at 4GHz that should be 4.5-5k PPD or a bit more
A FX-6 will do ~75% of the PPD at the same clock speed
Ion is correct... I average over 4k ppd @stock on my FX-8150 (3.6Ghz) and am expecting near 5k ppd @4Ghz. The 6 core models get 75% at the same clocks (75% of the cores=75% of the output)

IF you're on a budget and not planning any major overclocking you can use a Biostar A880GZ mATX mobo ($50-60) and an FX-8120 with a mild OC or an FX-8150@stock. I use this Biostar board for my FX-6 core rigs and the boards have been running trouble free for months- integrated graphics are also a plus

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* EDIT- 4k+ ppd for about $200-250 is not too bad (mobo, cpu, ram all new w/warranty) *
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If I can swing a Linux install for WCG, you may see me on the boards in the next 24 hrs with the 4P rig. I want to test it out a little more and see what it might produce. The idea is to help my WCG brothers when they are in a points race and have you guys help the F@H Team in May when the Chimp Challenge comes around again.

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What sockets do your water coolers support? Anything for S1366?

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Norton is running a 4P Opteron system that's pulling a bit over 25k PPD

Have you decided what you're going to do with the Lynnfield i7?
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