Borderlands 2

[johnspack]

Bingo... and because I want the disc, I'm old school... : http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69052
Edit: and also, if I need steam to play this, I'll use a separate windows install just for that. I don't like trojans running on my os!

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Mussels

damnit those shift codes are annoying, with the time zone differences

Just follow twitter or reddit, and go by the time stamps to judge rather than the time zones. Usually they say 2 hours remaining, so judge by the stampage.

Originally Posted by johnspack

Bingo... and because I want the disc, I'm old school... : http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=69052
Edit: and also, if I need steam to play this, I'll use a separate windows install just for that. I don't like trojans running on my os!

Seems like going through a lot of extra loops just to play the game. I don't see the point in the disc since you won't need it to play the game. Unless you plan to pull it out and stare at it every now and then. And installing Steam on a different OS, just seems like another pointless loop, do you have a different OS for every program?

[erocker]

Originally Posted by johnspack

I don't like trojans running on my os!

Don't make your decision based on something as baseless as this.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by johnspack

Looks like I'll need to do a massive oc to run this game at a good fps on my new 480. Hope this game goes on sale soon, really want to play it.....

You dont really need to push that CPU any harder, now the video cards on the otherhand are getting long in the tooth. Id Keep 1 around for Physx Processing so you can keep the 480s for SLI without using Physx

whats worse than a trojan? worms, rootkits,

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Frag Maniac

Doesn't seem to be much point to showing those benches. Clearly a mere cell shaded game doesn't have enough to it to offer more than a couple FPS difference at 1080p with a card costing nearly $300 more than the mid priced ones.

You missed half the benches then, look at the difference when OCing a CPU.

[razaron]

I finished the normal campaign. Holy balls, the last boss fight drops a lot of loot.

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by razaron

I finished the normal campaign. Holy balls, the last boss fight drops a lot of loot.

Didn't Crawmerax from BL1 drop a ton of loot?

[razaron]

Never finished the first game. 'twas too boring (in SP).

[Black Haru]

Originally Posted by Random Murderer

Didn't Crawmerax from BL1 drop a ton of loot?

yes, he did. final boss doesn't drop that much. I have heard rumors there is a crawmeraxlike boss after you beat the warrior, but only rumors.

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by Black Haru

yes, he did. final boss doesn't drop that much. I have heard rumors there is a crawmeraxlike boss after you beat the warrior, but only rumors.

Even if it is just a rumour, expect a boss like Crawmerax to show up in one of the DLC packs.

[razaron]

A random Bullymong dropped this.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile.../?id=100290490

[brandonwh64]

Out of all the stuff I have found, I have yet to find anything legendary.

[Random Murderer]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Out of all the stuff I have found, I have yet to find anything legendary.

The only one I've come across was a level 6 legendary dropped by Captain Flynt the first time I faced him.

[1Kurgan1]

[razaron]

I found 3 legendaries in my first playthrough and another one near the beginning of my second playthrough.

[INSTG8R]

I got this awesome Torgue Shotgun from Michael Mamaril the first time I actually found/looked for him. Playing as a Zer0 Sniper this weapon was exactly what I needed for when things get up close. Wacks down a Goliath in about 3 shots. I equip 1 Elemental Sniper, 1 Jacob Sniper(straight damage) Torgue AR and that Torgue Shotgun(Torgue all have Explosive damage)

Honestly I may have sold some Legendary stuff out of not paying attention or just not using it(Never use SMG's for example)

But this Shotgun is just awesome for me at lvl26.

[eidairaman1]

Now with explosive damage can you be affected by it if you discharge it too close?

Originally Posted by INSTG8R

I got this awesome Torgue Shotgun from Michael Mamaril the first time I actually found/looked for him. Playing as a Zer0 Sniper this weapon was exactly what I needed for when things get up close. Wacks down a Goliath in about 3 shots. I equip 1 Elemental Sniper, 1 Jacob Sniper(straight damage) Torgue AR and that Torgue Shotgun(Torgue all have Explosive damage)

Honestly I may have sold some Legendary stuff out of not paying attention or just not using it(Never use SMG's for example)

But this Shotgun is just awesome for me at lvl26.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/57...27C33D207D7EC/

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Now with explosive damage can you be affected by it if you discharge it too close?

Not noticed if it can harm me but there is definitely splash damage with them. One shot from is dealing out over 1000 damage. Let just Mdgets are just goo piles(especially like liquefying those horrid little Rat Midgets )

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by INSTG8R

Not noticed if it can harm me but there is definitely splash damage with them. One shot from is dealing out over 1000 damage. Let just Mdgets are just goo piles(especially like liquefying those horrid little Rat Midgets )

so if you hit the baddy and it explodes you dont get splash damage, but when you shoot a wall or ground or vehicle you do? is what im guessing

[Frag Maniac]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

You missed half the benches then, look at the difference when OCing a CPU.

Uh, that only compares various speeds of CPUs, not various models of GPUs. Like I was saying, if you can get near equal performance with a GPU costing nearly $300 less, it makes it rather obvious how limited the graphics are.

In fact, what you just said only further validates my point, because if you can get such a huge FPS boost from just a 500MHz CPU OC, surely it's not all that demanding a game to begin with.

[erocker]

I did some bench's at 2560x1440 with PhysX at low, medium and high with just my HD 7970 (1100/1575) and my i7 3770K (4600MHz).

2012-10-01 17:10:35 - Borderlands2 - PhysX High
Frames: 4447 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 74.117 - Min: 58 - Max: 90

2012-10-01 17:16:21 - Borderlands2 - PhysX Medium
Frames: 5091 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 84.850 - Min: 65 - Max: 104

2012-10-01 17:22:46 - Borderlands2 - PhysX Low
Frames: 5073 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 84.550 - Min: 69 - Max: 104

Basically I ran around Sanctuary doing the same thing three times. Throwing grenades, shooting things and stuff like that. Interesting there is almost no change in FPS between Low and Medium.

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Frag Maniac

Uh, that only compares various speeds of CPUs, not various models of GPUs. Like I was saying, if you can get near equal performance with a GPU costing nearly $300 less, it makes it rather obvious how limited the graphics are.

In fact, what you just said only further validates my point, because if you can get such a huge FPS boost from just a 500MHz CPU OC, surely it's not all that demanding a game to begin with.

My post had nothing to do with GPU's, just was pointing out the fact that investing in a good CPU does matter, or OCing the snot out of the one you got. You only mentioned GPU's not making a difference in your post, so I simply responded saying there's more than a GPU required to play the game. Never said the game was taxing or anything like that, you are trying to read into it too much and fabricating information.

[Frag Maniac]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

My post had nothing to do with GPU's, just was pointing out the fact that investing in a good CPU does matter, or OCing the snot out of the one you got. You only mentioned GPU's not making a difference in your post, so I simply responded saying there's more than a GPU required to play the game. Never said the game was taxing or anything like that, you are trying to read into it too much and fabricating information.

The fact remains that you replied to my post where I HAD validly referred to comparative GPU performance, and you answered with an example that has ZERO to do with it.

Again, I'm not merely talking about overall game performance here. I'm talking about how little difference there is in performance between two drastically different priced GPUs. What is so hard about that for you to grasp?

To put it another way, the CPU OC you mentioned would have the same effect on either of the GPUs I'm comparing, so they'd still run relatively close despite having a huge cost difference.

So the point remains, that one can get by with a cheap GPU with this game because there's very little to it's graphics, and nothing you can say about CPUs will change that.

[ufgy20]

Hey guys Weekends over got a some more videos throughout the week. i have to say so far im enjoying the game. my only complaint is not many fire or acid shotguns or assault rifles in the first 20 levels so far. Maybe one but hardly anything so far which kinda sucks playing a commando i feel i rely on my turret to much. its hard to go solo as that class i cant seem to find what spec and weapons work best.

Episode 6 No Refunds!

Spoiler

[razaron]

Originally Posted by ufgy20

Hey guys Weekends over got a some more videos throughout the week. i have to say so far im enjoying the game. my only complaint is not many fire or acid shotguns or assault rifles in the first 20 levels so far. Maybe one but hardly anything so far which kinda sucks playing a commando i feel i rely on my turret to much. its hard to go solo as that class i cant seem to find what spec and weapons work best.

Episode 6 No Refunds!

Spoiler

I'm playing (the) Commando and have found it to be quite alright (difficulty wise). At your level I had points in Impact, Healthy, Preparation and Phalanx shield. My playstyle involved throwing down the turret to agro while criting everyone with a sniper.