Borderlands 2

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Frag Maniac

The fact remains that you replied to my post where I HAD validly referred to comparative GPU performance, and you answered with an example that has ZERO to do with it.

Again, I'm not merely talking about overall game performance here. I'm talking about how little difference there is in performance between two drastically different priced GPUs. What is so hard about that for you to grasp?

To put it another way, the CPU OC you mentioned would have the same effect on either of the GPUs I'm comparing, so they'd still run relatively close despite having a huge cost difference.

So the point remains, that one can get by with a cheap GPU with this game because there's very little to it's graphics, and nothing you can say about CPUs will change that.

No, the fact remains that I posted out that a GPU isn't the only piece of hardware involved in making a game run better. Like I said, you read into it, and try to put words in my mouth. I'm simply saying CPU clocks and a good CPU matter as well.

You are arguing with yourself on every other point there buddy, calm down. I already said in my previous post that this game isn't a stress hog, yet you continue to ramble and try and argue that it isn't... I already agreed with that. /facepalm

[ufgy20]

Originally Posted by razaron

I'm playing (the) Commando and have found it to be quite alright (difficulty wise). At your level I had points in Impact, Healthy, Preparation and Phalanx shield. My playstyle involved throwing down the turret to agro while criting everyone with a sniper.

But i dont want to use a sniper rifle as a commando i like Assault Rifles and Shotguns as my primary guns like in Borderlands 1. maybe Gunzerker would fit my bill for guns a blazing all out run and gun. but i miss the ability to shoot enemies with my gun to heal, heal with grenades, turret heals and ammo regen from turret.
i wish they would have carried some of that over for the commando not the siren

[razaron]

What build are you peoplez mainly aiming for? This is mine, it's good for a ronery solo player, http://www.bl2db.com/skill-trees#zMVEqVoV9mxV0d

Originally Posted by ufgy20

But i dont want to use a sniper rifle as a commando i like Assault Rifles and Shotguns as my primary guns like in Borderlands 1. maybe Gunzerker would fit my bill for guns a blazing all out run and gun. but i miss the ability to shoot enemies with my gun to heal, heal with grenades, turret heals and ammo regen from turret.
i wish they would have carried some of that over for the commando not the siren

Able and Quick Charge are what you want.

[ufgy20]

Originally Posted by razaron

What build are you peoplez mainly aiming for? This is mine, it's good for a ronery solo player, http://www.bl2db.com/skill-trees#zMVEqVoV9mxV0d



Able and Quick Charge are what you want.

Im level 20 O_o this can do me no good since thats higher tier level stuff to get both im talking about mid level so far up to level 30 not many unique options to go down most shotguns that are good are explosive only the rest are Meh. and i have only found one decent asault rifle and its decent at best with NO elemental effect damage. i remember in BL2 coming accros some amazing and more unique versions of elemental effects and damage but so far up to level 25 i have seen no assault rifles with elemental effect damage accept a shock damage but that blows in itself. there are not many mobs i come across and say OH his shield is hard to get through, its mainly damn this bastard needs to burn and slow moving shotgun bullets that miss half the time due to them moving too darn fast ends in me dying on several occasions in one area.

[de.das.dude]

i am an assassin bitches XD

[eidairaman1]

once my life is straightened back out ill have a machine capable of playing all the latest titles. Join the TPU BL1/2 Gaming Community/Clan

[de.das.dude]

i just realised that i joined a lvl 19 mission when i was lvl 16 O.O
no wonder i am finding it hard, and all the weapons the enemies are dropping are out of my level

guess its time for some side missions XD

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

i am an assassin bitches XD

Ditto in fact I have 2! My Solo(27) and my Co-op(22). My Solo has some serious sniper rifles. One of every elemental most pushing 400 damage and my Jacobs rifle pushing over 800 damage.That bad ass shotgun I posted earlier for close up defense. I did make a horrible error earlier.

I had a really nice shield just under 2000(had a some kind of perk on it too)I accidentally sold it doing a trash clean up(no idea how it ended up on the list) When I did my trash sell it made a funny noise and I just didn't twig to it then promptly hopped the Fast Travel over to 1000 Cuts to a brutal mission I can best describe as "March of the Robots" It wasn't until I got rushed by a Goliath that I even notice I HAD no shield.. I made a beeline right for the Fast Travel and got the hell outta there. Of course once you leave the area there is no chance to do the Buy Back...I did have some "okay" shields in my bank but nothing even close to the one I lost...

But Weapon wise he is a machine. I carry one of everything(except SMG's)Only use Torgue AR and Shotguns. He is shaping up to be a decent Solo character(minus losing that great shield)

[de.das.dude]

^me jelly. i havent gone that far yet! but i did find a sniper with a 600s damage.

i have jacobs pistol with 223 damage! :O
fire rate is as fast i bull em tripper.'


i dont use AT. i got a shotgun with that red and white shark drawn and 3 barrels. its epic!
and an smg with similar livery. i made a mistake before when i sold the plasma smg i had. it would have been epic against those assasin shocking dragon like things, forgot what they are called.


i have the best guns for future levels stored in the safe at sanctuary

[INSTG8R]

I have been concentrating on boosting his Criticals and damage. Even running a Class Mod that increases Critical and Sniper Damage 20% each. Can drop most stuff with a Critical in one but even Nomads are dowin in too. All about the Criticals. I do carry a couple of killer AT because you never know when your gonna come up against some "monster" like oh a 50ft Thresher for example and picking away at it with even 500+Elemantals will get you dead quick.

Those are Stalkers, Shock weapons are the best for them and Criticals are in the mouth.

Yeah I am in a pickle right now as Both my banks are full I have high level duplicates of most Elementals so it is an total PITA trying to move the "lesser" Sniper Rifles(350+) over to my lower level character. I had been trying to sort thru them just now but gave up. I have all kinds of "neat" guns in my banks I may never use(E-Tech Pistols, A cool Fire Shotgun form Moxxie, The Bane etc) I can't bring myself to sell them.

I am too much of a Pack Rat and BL2 is SORELY lacking in space almost half as much as stock BL had. So they gave us almost twice as many guns and half the space...
I am almost tempted to start another character just as a "mule" to stuff it's bank with all my "uniques" I don't even think I have got a Legendary yet. But I keep guns for friends I Co-op with, guns I think well I might use that on my next character. I may just end up with a big pile in front of my Bank if I thought I could trust them to be there when I came back...

[Black Haru]

Originally Posted by INSTG8R

I have been concentrating on boosting his Criticals and damage. Even running a Class Mod that increases Critical and Sniper Damage 20% each. Can drop most stuff with a Critical in one but even Nomads are dowin in too. All about the Criticals. I do carry a couple of killer AT because you never know when your gonna come up against some "monster" like oh a 50ft Thresher for example and picking away at it with even 500+Elemantals will get you dead quick.

Those are Stalkers, Shock weapons are the best for them and Criticals are in the mouth.

Yeah I am in a pickle right now as Both my banks are full I have high level duplicates of most Elementals so it is an total PITA trying to move the "lesser" Sniper Rifles(350+) over to my lower level character. I had been trying to sort thru them just now but gave up. I have all kinds of "neat" guns in my banks I may never use(E-Tech Pistols, A cool Fire Shotgun form Moxxie, The Bane etc) I can't bring myself to sell them.

I am too much of a Pack Rat and BL2 is SORELY lacking in space almost half as much as stock BL had. So they gave us almost twice as many guns and half the space...
I am almost tempted to start another character just as a "mule" to stuff it's bank with all my "uniques" I don't even think I have got a Legendary yet. But I keep guns for friends I Co-op with, guns I think well I might use that on my next character. I may just end up with a big pile in front of my Bank if I thought I could trust them to be there when I came back...

storage is actually a few slots larger than BL1. remember, that while you had ~50 backpack slots, there was no bank.

also, once you quite a game session, all loot that is not stored is erased. (and, if it is like BL1, there is a limit to the amount of loot that can be in a map area. when farming crawmerax, it was ~6 runs before guns started disappearing)

[INSTG8R]

Originally Posted by Black Haru

storage is actually a few slots larger than BL1. remember, that while you had ~50 backpack slots, there was no bank.

also, once you quite a game session, all loot that is not stored is erased. (and, if it is like BL1, there is a limit to the amount of loot that can be in a map area. when farming crawmerax, it was ~6 runs before guns started disappearing)

We got a 42 slot Bank with Mad Moxxi's Underdome. Which again is considerably more than we have now. There were some more Claptrap Missions added the "random chance" at more backpack slots(Possibility of 72 by the time all the DLC was out)

So you see we are running considerably less than BL1. Bone stock BL1 with no DLC was 57. So YEAH we had ALOT more storage BL2 we just have that TOTAL of 43 slots with all upgrades(plus 4 slot stash) We could carry more on our back in BL1 than we have total in BlL2, In BL1 we had an estimated 17 Million guns available. It's estimated BL2 has at least double that. Yet we are given not even close to a relative storage system to match.

[Frag Maniac]

Originally Posted by 1Kurgan1

No, the fact remains that I posted out that a GPU isn't the only piece of hardware involved in making a game run better. Like I said, you read into it, and try to put words in my mouth. I'm simply saying CPU clocks and a good CPU matter as well.

You are arguing with yourself on every other point there buddy, calm down. I already said in my previous post that this game isn't a stress hog, yet you continue to ramble and try and argue that it isn't... I already agreed with that. /facepalm

I'm perfectly calm, I just know when someone jumps in and makes a comment that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. CPU and GPU performance are two entirely different matters, get it?

It's like you don't even know that the GPU does the lion's share of the work, and your little CPU chart isn't going to affect the fact that a mere $230 GPU will still come close to what a $500 one will do no matter what CPU is used or what clock it's running at.

I'm sure you'll keep pretending your CPU talk changes that somehow though. Some people on the net just love to type to see their own posts apparently. LOL

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by Black Haru

storage is actually a few slots larger than BL1. remember, that while you had ~50 backpack slots, there was no bank.

also, once you quite a game session, all loot that is not stored is erased. (and, if it is like BL1, there is a limit to the amount of loot that can be in a map area. when farming crawmerax, it was ~6 runs before guns started disappearing)

I haven't really ran into many storage issues so far with BL2, I remember running into them a lot during BL1. I just recently bought bag upgrades, only did it because I had extra iridium.

Originally Posted by Frag Maniac

I'm perfectly calm, I just know when someone jumps in and makes a comment that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. CPU and GPU performance are two entirely different matters, get it?

It's like you don't even know that the GPU does the lion's share of the work, and your little CPU chart isn't going to affect the fact that a mere $230 GPU will still come close to what a $500 one will do no matter what CPU is used or what clock it's running at.

I'm sure you'll keep pretending your CPU talk changes that somehow though. Some people on the net just love to type to see their own posts apparently. LOL

Calm isn't insulting someones intelligence All I said was, there is more to a gaming rig than a GPU. And if you have a crap CPU (you don't have rig specs listed), a $500 GPU won't matter. You seem to only think bottlenecks go one way, and that games only require a good GPU. My point is it requires a balanced machine.

I mean those charts show that a great GPU and a decent GPU aren't far apart, so if that was your point, why even post it? the chart already showed that, or do you just like to reiterate the obvious?

[de.das.dude]

heres me
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[1Kurgan1]

Interesting, didn't know there was Grenade mods beyond MIRVs that spawned child grenades. Also good name on that, made me laugh.

[mlee49]

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

heres me
[IMG]http://img.techpowerup.org/121002/Bo...5-47-39-42.png[/IMG]

Pffffftttt.... I've got a better 'nade than that. Something like 500x7 ish.

Finally found a decent rifle, 300 dmg but chews through 4 bullets a shot. Waiting till lvl 20 to use another golden key.

[razaron]

Originally Posted by mlee49

Pffffftttt.... I've got a better 'nade than that. Something like 500x7 ish.

Finally found a decent rifle, 300 dmg but chews through 4 bullets a shot. Waiting till lvl 20 to use another golden key.

9842x8. Most things are exponential in this game.

[de.das.dude]

i used that grenade at that time just for the screenie. i have one that does 800 something damage.

also where do you get them golden keys? i got only one.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

i used that grenade at that time just for the screenie. i have one that does 800 something damage.

also where do you get them golden keys? i got only one.

I have like 238 keys now but I did the key trick before they patched it

[Black Haru]

Originally Posted by INSTG8R

We got a 42 slot Bank with Mad Moxxi's Underdome. Which again is considerably more than we have now. There were some more Claptrap Missions added the "random chance" at more backpack slots(Possibility of 72 by the time all the DLC was out)

So you see we are running considerably less than BL1. Bone stock BL1 with no DLC was 57. So YEAH we had ALOT more storage BL2 we just have that TOTAL of 43 slots with all upgrades(plus 4 slot stash) We could carry more on our back in BL1 than we have total in BlL2, In BL1 we had an estimated 17 Million guns available. It's estimated BL2 has at least double that. Yet we are given not even close to a relative storage system to match.

http://www.mobygames.com/images/shot...screenshot.png

you can't count moxi's bank, because it is DLC. I can guarantee that inventory will increase (as well as level cap) with the upcoming DLC.

I do agree with you though. I would have liked more inventory space. and even beyond that, a use for eridium after unlocking all the SDU's

[razaron]

Mad Mike in the second playthrough is HARD. He only need one good shot to insta-gib you. The only reason I managed to kill him is because I got lucky. He was stuck behind some railings so all of his shots were hitting the railing while I was criting him with a sniper. However he managed to get one shot in on me so I had to use a rocket laucher from a fair distance away while in fight-for-your-life mode. He dropped one green and I died about 7 times (that's $350k down the drain).

EDIT: Also, Hyperion snipers are awesome. Although they sway alot for the first shot, the latter shots become less "swayish" and there is zero recoil. This means you can hold down the fire button and the sniper will hit the same place until you need to reload.

[de.das.dude]

i want fucking keys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1Kurgan1]

Originally Posted by de.das.dude

i want fucking keys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Watch Randy Pitchfords Twitter, or check Reddit since someone always posts the codes. they are usually only good for 2 hours. You need to sign up for Shift, then link it to your game, you enter the keys in the Extra's menu in-game.

[brandonwh64]

Do the keys tie to your game or just the character that you have?