NVIDIA Forces EVGA to Pull EVBot Support from GTX 680 Classified

[Easy Rhino]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Common sense is not so common anymore.

i don't even think it has to do with common sense. these people just consume. they constantly consume and judge other people's work without contributing anything themselves.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

i don't even think it has to do with common sense. these people just consume. they constantly consume and judge other people's work without contributing anything themselves.

Meh. I grew up i na church, so this applies:


Judge not lest ye be judged.


Which isn't as wholesome as most think..it's telling you to turn a blind eye, rather than to not judge.






Someone needs to tell people "NO!", clearly, or else things like the economy wouldn't be as bad as they are. People should be MORE critical.


Personally, I think nVidia is doing the right thing here. It might not be evident why, immediately, but i think they have a plan.

I jsut hope they follow through on it.

[ironwolf]

Originally Posted by Maban

Quick, somebody post a lolwut meme!

I concur!

[brandonwh64]

Maybe like dave said, it has come a time were OCing is mainstream cause people wanted it to be and Nvidia is just trying to save the customer and factory time and headaches with people that "Think" they can OC anything when in turn the just burn the card to the ground.

If you need that much voltage to OC a card then learn some entry level electronic engineering and build a Vmod like it was done in the old days.

[radrok]

I personally think that Nvidia did the right thing by locking voltage on reference boards because the VR circuitry is meant to operate more or less at stock and an excessive stress could be fatal.

On the other hand I do not agree with their choice to impose a lock on partners custom boards which are engineered to withstand higher voltages.

To solve this issue AIB should use a bios switch on custom boards which should only be accessible after removing something like a smartly positioned sticker which can't be reapplied without noticing.
You switch that bios? Well you can have your unlocked voltage at the cost of your entire warranty period.
You want to keep your warranty? Buy reference or do not touch that sticker protected switch.

There you have your solution.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

Maybe like dave said, it has come a time were OCing is mainstream cause people wanted it to be and Nvidia is just trying to save the customer and factory time and headaches with people that "Think" they can OC anything when in turn the just burn the card to the ground.

If you need that much voltage to OC a card then learn some entry level electronic engineering and build a Vmod like it was done in the old days.

I can also see where OC would be a lot of fun in the older days when the gains were so noticeable. Today with all the ports and the hardware so far ahead of the software I don't see a point in OC anymore. But I can appreciate people will still wanna do it. I think a true overclocker today doesn't use "autotune" software or push button OC. They still do it old school via bios tweaks and hard volt mods.

Hell I remember trying to do the pencil mod when I first started......then I realized I didn't know WTF I was doing and stopped. I think NVIDIA and the like are just protecting themselves from guys like me that don't come to the realization that "I dunno WTF I am doing" BEFORE they blow the hardware and have to RMA it.

[erocker]

There's still 3rd party support for overvolting your Nvidia cards that isn't dictated by Nvidia. However, the 680 Classified is a product that is aimed towards overclocking/overvolting and is not a reference design so I have no idea why Nvidia stepped in.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by erocker

so I have no idea why Nvidia stepped in.

Just to troll you I think.

[cadaveca]

Originally Posted by erocker

is not a reference design so I have no idea why Nvidia stepped in

Maybe they want to release their own reference OC platform?


I mean, after all, everybody's doing it...

[erocker]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

Just to troll you I think.

Just the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.

You're wrong though as I don't really care and it doesn't affect me.

[radrok]

Originally Posted by erocker

There's still 3rd party support for overvolting your Nvidia cards that isn't dictated by Nvidia. However, the 680 Classified is a product that is aimed towards overclocking/overvolting and is not a reference design so I have no idea why Nvidia stepped in.

Kepler is a clocking monster I would not be surprised that in betwen Nvidias reasons to lock voltages there is a "performance gain" one to be avoided.

[erocker]

Originally Posted by radrok

Kepler is a clocking monster I would not be surprised that in betwen Nvidias reasons to lock voltages there is a "performance gain" one to be avoided.

I can agree, however these cards were advertised to do these things. People who bought these cards with this feature in mind have now been stolen from. Regardless, as I said there's still 3rd party software to do it. So really, it isn't an issue.

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by erocker

Just the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.

I seriously just spit sweet tea all over my work screen.

My theory is that the number of RMA's on this card have jump quite high and Nvidia stepped in to intervene?

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by erocker

Just the answer I'm looking for. Thanks.

You're wrong though as I don't really care and it doesn't affect me.

Always here to help troll. *edited by erocker

[erocker]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I seriously just spit sweet tea all over my work screen.

My theory is that the number of RMA's on this card have jump quite high and Nvidia stepped in to intervene?

Maybe, but it still really isn't right.

Example:

Here, buy this item. (It has feature x, feature y, feature z)

It sounds good, you buy the item.

After purchase they take away "feature z"

Did you get what you paid for?

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by erocker

Maybe, but it still really isn't right.

Example:

Here, buy this item. (feature x, feature y, feature z)

It sounds good, you buy the item.

After purchase they take away "feature z"

Did you get what you paid for?

Yea I hear ya, If I paid that amount of money to do what I wanted to do with it (within its limits) and they took a feature that was a selling point away, I would be sending the card back for a full refund.

[EarthDog]

Two other vendors we work with (Im an editor at overclockers.com, FYI) also had trouble with Nvidia blessing more voltage and increased power limits (Top end 680 from one AIB, and a 660 from another).

Originally Posted by erocker

There's still 3rd party support for overvolting your Nvidia cards that isn't dictated by Nvidia.

Yes and no...

They are all still limited to 1.175v or 1.21v with a modded bios. The point is going PAST what other cards can do since they all hit 1.175v.

[Easy Rhino]

if somebody has this evga card, can't they just use another party's voltage tool to overclock? also, can't we just ask w1zzard to solve this issue for us?

[EarthDog]

Technically you can add the part yourself... and use the evbot.

http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...6593-ND/353085


(Thanks to Bobnova at ocf for that link/information)

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by Easy Rhino

if somebody has this evga card, can't they just use another party's voltage tool to overclock? also, can't we just ask w1zzard to solve this issue for us?

I don't think wizzard would risk some of his ties with nvidia to make a tool that would allow you to go over that said voltage.

Just thinking out loud here.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

I don't think wizzard would risk some of his ties with nvidia to make a tool that would allow you to go over that said voltage.

Just thinking out loud here.

I would stop thinking out loud if I were you. It hurts peoples ears.

Doesnt Trixx do this already?

[brandonwh64]

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

I would stop thinking out loud if I were you. It hurts peoples ears.

Doesnt Trixx do this already?

No it only goes to 1.175V or if lucky 1.2V

[PatoRodrigues]

Want some easy overvoltage and take some risks?

Buy the MSI GTX670 Power Edition. haha.... 9.3 volts of FUN.



Just kidding. A bizarre error from MSI (or Richtek) though.

[TheMailMan78]

Originally Posted by brandonwh64

No it only goes to 1.175V or if lucky 1.2V

Ah ok.....nevermind then (scurries off to a corner)

[sneekypeet]

Originally Posted by EarthDog

Technically you can add the part yourself... and use the evbot.

http://www.digikey.com/product-detai...6593-ND/353085


(Thanks to Bobnova at ocf for that link/information)

This is what I was thinking since they left the placement (at least in the image). So EVGA didn't lock out the EVbots functionality, they just removed the link for connectivity?