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Old Oct 3, 2012, 12:17 PM   #1
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IB De-Lidding Temps before and after

DeLid or suffer the heat.

Delidding is in the air. I can't wait no more. *I'm running a 20 pass LinX stress test right now for my before delid test information. *In a few minutes I'm going to delid my 3570k. *

I wouldn't do this unless I was confident that I can do this and that my 3570k will benefit from it.

Right now my water cooled rig only has 1x120mm HWLABS Black ICE GTX Stealth radiator.

This is the testing water loop configuration for my first De-lidding test.



I have another radiator on back order at FrozenCPU and wanted to wait for it but I couldn't wait no more.

Photos from my adventure.

Officially Delidded. *No going back at this point in the game.





Cleaned up and ready to GO!


Contact Paper pressure test is a go!

Here is contact paper pressure test with my DT SNIPER water block on 3570k IHS and then 3570k direct die.

With IHS.



No IHS direct DIE!



Before Delidding.

Ambient Temp 26C

TIM IC Diamond 24

Temps under LinX load 83C 93C 89C 84C



http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2531026

De-Lidded results.

Direct DIE Contact

Ambient Temps 25.5C

TIM IC Diamond 24

Temps under LinX load *70C 80C 78C 74C



http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2531139




Delidded IB i5-3570k @ 4.5GHZ 1.15v with NO IHS with DT SNIPER Water block
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2551498

Loop configuration as tested. Single 120mm slim HWLABS Black ICE radiator.




TIM Liquid Pro
IBT 4.5GHZ Maximum memory tested 10 passes
Ambient Temps 25C
Fresh Install



With Liquid Pro average temp of each core is at 61C!! under IBT load.


Conclusion: By de-lidding my IB i5-3570k I was able to lower average core temps from 87.25C to 61C!!!!!

Since delidding I have been able to lower my average core temps under IBT 100% load at 4.5GHZ by 26.25C per core!!!


Intel left it to us to effectively cool IB. This works!!

Share your methods, lessons learned, and temps.

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what are your load vcore values at that clock/temp ?
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what are your load vcore values at that clock/temp ?


It's in the screen shot. 1.176v
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Arg, now I'm going to want to do this to my CPU, and I know I'm gonna mess it up.
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It's in the screen shot. 1.176v
Oh, ok
they looked so low , so your using fixed value .
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Arg, now I'm going to want to do this to my CPU, and I know I'm gonna mess it up.
From the two I've seen done here, it looks relatively simple. I suspect the hardest part is getting the HS level on the die.
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For direct contact the temps seem kinda high, maybe due to ambient? Or maybe others were fudging results?

I've seen same/similar temps posted from simply replacing stock TIM, some even greater!
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For direct contact the temps seem kinda high, maybe due to ambient? Or maybe others were fudging results?

I've seen same/similar temps posted from simply replacing stock TIM, some even greater!

Seems like lowest temps have been accomplished with liquid pro TIM. All I have is IC Diamond 24.


Also I'm running a somewhat restrictive loop for single slim 120 mm radiator.


I think the results are great.
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That rad should still be capable of dissapating 200w of heat, have you tried a remount? Extra mounting pressure?

I'm not saying you "did a bad job", contrary, was just curious is all. Really can't compare anyways because no 2 setups are alike

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That rad should still be capable of dissapating 200w of heat, have you tried a remount? Extra mounting pressure?

I'm not saying you "did a bad job", contrary, was just curious is all. Really can't compare anyways because no 2 setups are alike

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The rad is capable but with restrictive flow it will get saturated in heat much easier. The flow is pump to radiator to video card to CPU to reservoir and the back to pump.
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It's in the screen shot. 1.176v
woah. At 1.175 V, my chip hits ~65-70c, under an H100, similar clocks. You have a hot one, yep, but that explains why it's a 3570K, and not a 3770K, like mine is.
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woah. At 1.175 V, my chip hits ~65-70c, under an H100, similar clocks. You have a hot one, yep, but that explains why it's a 3570K, and not a 3770K, like mine is.


It is unfortunate that it runs so hot with such little voltage.

At least now it can cool off better.
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So, you are direct-die now then?
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The rad is capable but with restrictive flow it will get saturated in heat much easier. The flow is pump to radiator to video card to CPU to reservoir and the back to pump.
Ah! This is the problem right here! Trying to cool 300w of heat with a 200w exchanger, pretty good temps considering Have you tried any other loop orientation or remounting? Just for shits N' gigles if nothing else

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Ah! This is the problem right here! Trying to cool 300w of heat with a 200w exchanger, pretty good temps considering Have you tried any other loop orientation or recounting? Just for shits N' gigles if nothing else

It's a temporary set up. Have a new radiator on back order at frozen CPU.
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Those temps are pretty good considering youre cooling a cpu and a gpu with one slim 120.
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Those temps are pretty good considering youre cooling a cpu and a gpu with one slim 120.


That is what I am thinking.

I have an Alphacool Cool NexXxus UT 60 420mm radiator on order at FrozenCPU. As soon as they are in stock it is being sent to me.

For now my little 120mm radiator is doing ok.
The only reason I am running it like this is because I sold the 360mm radiator that was in the same loop last week.

Did this test a few hours ago.

20 run LinX with AVX enabled pass in Windows Diagnostic Mode
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Is that gpu still your 7950, and is it still at 1300mhz?
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Is that gpu still your 7950, and is it still at 1300mhz?


I'm still running the same Sapphire HD7950 950mhz edition that I have posted about before in different thread.

Since my loop is hurting for radiators right now I have under volted the HD7950 and am running at stock speeds of 950mhz. Other wise the 120mm radiator can't handle the 1300mhz temps and the heat from the over clocked 3570k.


1 little 120mm radiator even with a huge triebwerk 123 fan blowing just isn't enough cooling power to effectively cool an over clocked HD7950 and an over clocked i5-3570k.

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I'm still running the same Sapphire HD7950 950mhz edition that I have posted about before in different thread.

Since my loop is hurting for radiators right now I have under volted the HD7950 and am runnind at stock speeds of 950mhz. Other wise the 120mm radiator can't handle the 1300mhz temps and the heat from the over clocked 3570k.


1 little 120mm radiator even with a huge triebwerk 123 fan blowing just isn't enough cooling power to effectively cool an over clocked HD7950 and an over clocked i5-3570k.
I was beginning to wonder if this some kinda magical radiator if it can handle all that and maintain temps.
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Before I mounted the block I did a contact paper pressure test and contact looked nice and flat for good mount. I have rubber washers on the front and back of the mother board of my cpu block mount bolts to add a comfort when tightening and my DT Sniper water block has springs on the set nuts. I just have a nice squeeze on it. Not too hard and everything feels safe.
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Did you try it with the ihs on vs with it off ?

Mine delided runs a lot cooler then my non delided cpu

So it doesn't help but not for ppl that use ln2
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