Need drivers HD4670 AGP

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Also you need to remember under win xp he is limited to dx9 which in turns shadows all of the vid memory to system memory. So with a 1 gb vid card and lets just say he has 2gb of memory. Dx9 is going to take 1gb of system memory for shadowing of the gpu, so he will just have 1 gb of ram left to runs the os and programs. If he plays a demanding game or run a demanding program he could possibly run out of system memory. win vista and 7 use dx 11 so it is no longer a problem. Just adding this as this may be the reason he is choosing win vista or 7 over win xp.


Without knowing complete system specs we are all just guessing but I will vouch for eidairaman1 as he has done some intensive testing of just this. Agp systems with win vista and win 7. He does know what he is talking about here.

[FreedomEclipse]

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

we are all just guessing but I will vouch for eidairaman1 as he has done some intensive testing of just this. Agp systems with win vista and win 7. He does know what he is talking about here.

I used to run a AGP system with a AMD FX-55 or AMD 3000+ (OC'd to 2.8Ghz) kitted up with 2GB PC3200 DDR Ram and a bad ass x850xtpe. I ran Windows Vista and Win7 on it.

I could care less about WEI scores. but I managed to run L4D, guild wars and a shit ton of other modern games at max settings if not on high or medium.

WEI dont mean shit to me so long as I know it performs and performs well.

(the board i was using was a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum - Nforce3 Ultra chipset)


:EDIT:

Oh it worked fine with Windows Aero.

[TRWOV]

Originally Posted by Krazy Owl

Windows scores of:

4.2
4.4
1.0
6.7
5.3

But with this AGP I wonder why Aero is still only at 1.0 when the card can beat lot of other cards.

Weird score, I get 4 on mine if memory serves right. I'll run a few benchmarks tonight.

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

freedomeclipse and I also know that TRWOV has ran system like this so they also would have knowledge on this

[eidairaman1]

Thats the memory interface between memory on the video card and gpu

Originally Posted by Krazy Owl

I tought it was related to the processing power and bandwith like videocards with their 64-128-256 bits.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Weird score, I get 4 on mine if memory serves right. I'll run a few benchmarks tonight.

Ya Aero wont run. He needs a proper AGP GART DRIVER for the board. Sometimes a format helps aswell.

[TRWOV]

Originally Posted by ThE_MaD_ShOt

freedomeclipse and I also know that TRWOV has ran system like this so they also would have knowledge on this

I know that the AGP bus doesn't represent a meaningful penalty for the HD4670. Heck, even with the 3850 there isn't a lot of difference, about 2-3% compared to the PCIe version, which could be attributable to the bridge chip and not necessarily to the AGP bus.


Here is the WEI for HD3850 AGP. I'll test with my HD4670 later tonight:




And yes, we need to know what board are you using. 865 based boards work beautifully on W7 with no performance issues over XP, VIA boards work but there seems to be a slight timing issue with the AGP bus under W7 (you don'tget crashes or anything but you can tell something isn't right when you scroll down a page or something like that and the display lags) and nforce/ULi boards are all glithchy especially with AMD bridged cards.

[Krazy Owl]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

Ya Aero wont run. He needs a proper AGP GART DRIVER for the board. Sometimes a format helps aswell.

I'm using this computer at the moment ot write you and Aero runs well.

[eidairaman1]

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/mo...K8S760MG-6LRS/

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/Produc...Language=en-us

last Time Foxconn updated the drivers for this board was 7 years ago

SIS doesnt have a Vista/7 Based GART either. Only a XP 64bit driver

I actually scored better on my Sig rig with the 1950 Pro WEI score.

ULi Chipsets

http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_m1689.html

http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_m1695.html

http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_m1697.html

Drivers for Uli Chipsets- Vista Beta

http://www.nvidia.com/page/uli_drivers.html

Via has a Hyperion 4 in 1 which normally includes AGP Gart but its for Vista (Driver model between vista and 7 are nearly identical) just have to extract the entire file using 7 zip to its own folder to get to exact driver needed

Originally Posted by TRWOV

I know that the AGP bus doesn't represent a meaningful penalty for the HD4670. Heck, even with the 3850 there isn't a lot of difference, about 2-3% compared to the PCIe version, which could be attributable to the bridge chip and not necessarily to the AGP bus.


Here is the WEI for HD3850 AGP. I'll test with my HD4670 later tonight:

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/7056/weii.png


And yes, we need to know what board are you using. 865 based boards work beautifully on W7 with no performance issues over XP, VIA boards work but there seems to be a slight timing issue with the AGP bus under W7 (you don'tget crashes or anything but you can tell something isn't right when you scroll down a page or something like that and the display lags) and nforce/ULi boards are all glithchy especially with AMD bridged cards.

[TRWOV]

Here are the scores for the 4670AGP:



and 3dmark06. For some reason Futuremark system info identifies the GPU as a 4650

[Krazy Owl]

Ok but you have conroe and more ram than i have. Chill out man :P

[TRWOV]

yeah but you shouldn't be getting a 1.0 for Aero under any circumstance. what board are you using?

[Krazy Owl]

Foxconn Winfast K8S760MG-6LRS

[TRWOV]

So a SiS board then... haven't used one of those so I don't know what to expect.

You said you're using 12.4 beta, right? have you tried with 12.4 release? That's what I'm using.

[Krazy Owl]

I deleted 7 64 bits now and installed vista 32 bits. i had this useless license around and went for vista for graphics but with xp compatibility.

[ShiBDiB]

This thread is a shitshow.......

[Krazy Owl]

Originally Posted by ShiBDiB

This thread is a shitshow.......

....and you just became an actor of it. Thanx for joining us!

[eidairaman1]

i had posted links to the specific board you have. There are Vista Drivers other than AGP GART for it.

http://w3.sis.com/download/

[TRWOV]

Just tested 12.6 and it doesn't work because someone fucked up and the download link goes to the legacy pre-HD5000 Catalyst release not the AGP hotfix.


Hotfix page: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...AGPHotfix.aspx

Legacy W7 64bit page: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...w-vista64.aspx

Notice the identical download links.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

Just tested 12.6 and it doesn't work because someone fucked up and the download link goes to the legacy pre-HD5000 Catalyst release not the AGP hotfix.


Hotfix page: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...AGPHotfix.aspx

Legacy W7 64bit page: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...w-vista64.aspx

Notice the identical download links.

if its the Issue Id suggest reporting it.

[TRWOV]

I noticed because the filename had "whql" at the end. AGP hotfix drivers aren't WHQL.

Reported.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by TRWOV

I noticed because the filename had "whql" at the end. AGP hotfix drivers aren't WHQL.

Reported.

seems to be an ongoing issue

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/36...raphics-driver

ive had to before extract the installer using 7zip then executing individual files

[Mussels]

as long as the OP gets a working AGP driver and THEN installs the video card driver, it should be fine.


if no such drivers exist... well, time to ditch the system or stick with an older/supported OS.


this thread has turned into a real shitstorm, and it really shouldnt be over such a simple problem.

[Krazy Owl]

What is exactly a shitstorm expression ? Thx :P

[Mussels]

Originally Posted by Krazy Owl

What is exactly a shitstorm expression ? Thx :P

think of the saying "when shit hits the fan"

Then replace the fan with a hurricane, and shit with "far more shit than there should ever, ever be"