New videocard

EHLW1993 · Oct 14, 2012, 01:51 PM

Hi guys,

I'm looking for a new videocard but I've totally no idea what kind of videocards are possible with my system specs. I'm a totally dumbass if it goes about videocards so maybe you can help me.

Mostly I play FSX and ArmA 2, not the lightest games and my specs are:
Processor intel Q8200 quad core 2,33/2,34 GHz
Ram memory 4GB
Videocard for now GT220 1024MB
Windows 7

I hope you can help me with finding a better card. I don't want too spend too much money

Grtz Guido

JrRacinFan · Oct 14, 2012, 01:57 PM

Power supply model and display being used also please.

Danielbleker · Oct 14, 2012, 02:18 PM

How much power can your power supply deliver and how many monitors do you use at what resolution.

EHLW1993 · Oct 14, 2012, 02:19 PM

Hey,

Uhm power supply? It's just connected to 220-230V there is nothing between it, only a block so I can plug in multiple plugs. The monitor I'm using is an SyncMaster 2494HM. Resolution 1920x1080

Grtz

Danielbleker · Oct 14, 2012, 02:20 PM

How many Watts guido

JrRacinFan · Oct 14, 2012, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHLW1993

only a block so I can plug in multiple plugs

Ok, best for you to not upgrade your video card then if you cannot provide proper information to get the answer you seek. I can find you a video card based on budget but need to know what kinda of max power draw I am looking at. Get me?

@DanielBleker

Wattage isnt the key. A power supply can be labeled as 500W but really can only "do" 300W.

Crap Daddy · Oct 14, 2012, 02:31 PM

Hi Guido. If you open the case to your PC you will see a box from where cables go into the motherboard, your videocard, HDD and what you have there inside. That is the power supply.
Read what's written on it.

Fourstaff · Oct 14, 2012, 02:32 PM

Sounds like a power supply is needed for better graphics card.

Dent1 · Oct 14, 2012, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHLW1993

Hey,

Uhm power supply? It's just connected to 220-230V there is nothing between it, only a block so I can plug in multiple plugs. The monitor I'm using is an SyncMaster 2494HM. Resolution 1920x1080

Grtz

You are going to really struggle at that resolution because of the CPU. It's not bad CPU for a veteran, but its clocked very low at only 2.33Ghz. Judging from your previous posts you seem too inexperienced for me to recommend overclocking it either.

What jumps out right away also is your RAM. 4GB is pushing it at that resolution. Upgrade to 8GBs of RAM and your video card at the same time!

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHLW1993

Found it...

model: PS-5301-08HF
DC output 300W

Looks like this http://microdream.co.uk/liteon-ps-53...er-supply.html

It's really not a good PSU. I would recommend upgrading it to something with a stronger brand i.e. Antec, OCZ, Corsair, Thermaltake etc.

Push for something with atleast 550-600W+, 30A per 12v rail, and 70% efficiency.

EHLW1993 · Oct 14, 2012, 02:56 PM

Found it...

model: PS-5301-08HF
DC output 300W

St.Alia-Of-The-Knife · Oct 14, 2012, 03:01 PM

300w is not enough at all for a decent graphics card
like all OEM crap, you have to replace it with a better one

JrRacinFan · Oct 14, 2012, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHLW1993

Found it...

model: PS-5301-08HF
DC output 300W

Your best bet then would be to stick with a card that does not require external power. Thinking AMD HD6670.

Jack1n · Oct 14, 2012, 03:10 PM

In my honest opinion you need to upgrade the entire computer altogether if you are looking for a significant performance increase.

Dent1 · Oct 14, 2012, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JrRacinFan

Your best bet then would be to stick with a card that does not require external power. Thinking AMD HD6670.

I think he is in the UK. PS-5301-08HF model PSUs are typically sold in England.

I think he can push for a much better video card and PSU for £160

ATI 6870 £109
PowerColor HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Dual Mini.. ...

AND

Thermaltake TR2 600 Non Modular 600W ATX 80+ Bronze £50

Thermaltake TR2 600 Non Modular 600W ATX 80+ Bronz...

OR

Antec VP 550W PSU £50
Antec VP 550W PSU | Ebuyer.com

Maybe add another £40 for additional 4GB of RAM. Bringing the total to £200
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Memory Ki... (Assuming the OPs mobo supports DDR2)

JrRacinFan · Oct 14, 2012, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1

I think he is in the UK. PS-5301-08HF model PSUs are typically sold in England.

I think he can push for a better video card and PSU for £160

ATI 6870 £109
PowerColor HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 Dual DVI Dual Mini.. ...

AND

Thermaltake TR2 600 Non Modular 600W ATX 80+ Bronze £50

Thermaltake TR2 600 Non Modular 600W ATX 80+ Bronz...

OR

Antec VP 550W PSU £50
Antec VP 550W PSU | Ebuyer.com

Agreed on all points, guess it all just depends on budget really.

@Jack1n

You're not being quite helpful. The OP can get a video card and use it in the "upgrade" that you're speaking of.

EHLW1993 · Oct 14, 2012, 03:25 PM

Hey,

@Dent1
No I'm not in the UK

Live in the netherlands

Danielbleker · Oct 14, 2012, 03:28 PM

Guido,

The card that Dent stated is an ATI card.
I read that you currently have a Nvidia card.
Would you rather have a Nvidia one?

EHLW1993 · Oct 14, 2012, 03:31 PM

Hey Daniël,

Well Nvidia is better for FSX. The clouds will be better and currently the Nvidia card is doing well with clouds, so yeah I like Nvidia more.

Dent1 · Oct 14, 2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danielbleker

Guido,

The card that Dent stated is an ATI card.
I read that you currently have a Nvidia card.
Would you rather have a Nvidia one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EHLW1993

Hey Daniël,

Well Nvidia is better for FSX. The clouds will be better and currently the Nvidia card is doing well with clouds, so yeah I like Nvidia more.

Fanboy much?

It really depends on the ATI card and the Nvidia card in question.

Don't worry about whether it's Nvidia or ATI. Makes no difference. Get the fastest and cheapest card you can find irrespective of manufacturer.

Jack1n · Oct 14, 2012, 03:38 PM

Ati is considerbly better performance wise in the sub 200$ market at the moment(nvidia usually would have better power consumption,cooler temps and will run quieter).

Fourstaff · Oct 14, 2012, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1

Fanboy much?

It really depends on the ATI card and the Nvidia card in question.

Don't worry about whether it's Nvidia or ATI. Makes no difference. Get the fastest and cheapest card you can find irrespective of manufacturer.

Some games favour one over the other, so I think we better look hard at the game(s) in question before passing any judgement. Arma II favours AMD as far as I can see, so that is one game to AMD's favour.

Also, sometimes its a major hassle changing graphics from one manufacturer to another (beyond many, I would add) that it might be safer to stick with same brand.

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 14, 2012, 04:31 PM

To be Entirely honest! You need to upgrade power supply before getting a video card.

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2....

Itll be better in the long run. More stable power, and more of it.

I've been playing FSX for years and it favors Nvidia so I would look at a GTX660ti.

MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dent1

Fanboy much?

It really depends on the ATI card and the Nvidia card in question.

Don't worry about whether it's Nvidia or ATI. Makes no difference. Get the fastest and cheapest card you can find irrespective of manufacturer.

get over it. FSX does favor Nvidia. Im not sure what the clouds have to do with anything though. FSX also likes VERY fast CPUs at over 4.0GHZ. Ive been playing the game for years, and from my experience my best performance has been with Nvidia.

Jack1n · Oct 14, 2012, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216

To be Entirely honest! You need to upgrade power supply before getting a video card.

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2....

Itll be better in the long run. More stable power, and more of it.

I've been playing FSX for years and it favors Nvidia so I would look at a GTX660ti.

MSI N660Ti PE 2GD5 GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB 192-bit ...

get over it. FSX does favor Nvidia. Im not sure what the clouds have to do with anything though. FSX also likes VERY fast CPUs at over 4.0GHZ. Ive been playing the game for years, and from my experience my best performance has been with Nvidia.

a 660ti would be overkill for the rest of his system as it will be bottlenecked,which is why i suggested a complete system upgrade,as far as upgrading only the video card i think that powercolor 6870 would be a great choise.

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 14, 2012, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack1n

a 660ti would be overkill for the rest of his system as it will be bottlenecked,which is why i suggested a complete system upgrade,as far as upgrading only the video card i think that powercolor 6870 would be a great choise.

It won't bottleneck the whole system. the Q8200 is not a bad chip. He could overclock it to like 3.0ghz with ease to relieve ANY sort of bottle neck with better cooling, and that PSU would handle it better and be more stable. Now if he was running like a dual core Core 2 Duo id be worried. Seems like people really like the throw the word bottleneck around these days.

MT Alex · Oct 14, 2012, 04:51 PM

I think you need to reread the thread, Phenom.

Oct 14, 2012, 01:51 PM	#1
EHLW1993 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	New videocard Hi guys, I'm looking for a new videocard but I've totally no idea what kind of videocards are possible with my system specs. I'm a totally dumbass if it goes about videocards so maybe you can help me. Mostly I play FSX and ArmA 2, not the lightest games and my specs are: Processor intel Q8200 quad core 2,33/2,34 GHz Ram memory 4GB Videocard for now GT220 1024MB Windows 7 I hope you can help me with finding a better card. I don't want too spend too much money Grtz Guido

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Danielbleker Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Holland Posts: 20 (0.06/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	How much power can your power supply deliver and how many monitors do you use at what resolution.

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EHLW1993 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Hey, Uhm power supply? It's just connected to 220-230V there is nothing between it, only a block so I can plug in multiple plugs. The monitor I'm using is an SyncMaster 2494HM. Resolution 1920x1080 Grtz

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Danielbleker Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Holland Posts: 20 (0.06/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	How many Watts guido

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EHLW1993 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Hey, @Dent1 No I'm not in the UK Live in the netherlands

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Danielbleker Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Holland Posts: 20 (0.06/day) Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Guido, The card that Dent stated is an ATI card. I read that you currently have a Nvidia card. Would you rather have a Nvidia one? Last edited by Danielbleker; Oct 14, 2012 at 03:29 PM. Reason: spell error

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EHLW1993 Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 (0.03/day) Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Hey Daniël, Well Nvidia is better for FSX. The clouds will be better and currently the Nvidia card is doing well with clouds, so yeah I like Nvidia more.

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