AMD FX "Vishera" Processor Pricing Revealed - Page 7

os2wiz · Oct 12, 2012, 01:20 AM

If the clown was serious and objective he would have issued thew sores on each test individually. He did not . I think he is a predjudiced stupid clown.

Fatal1ty39 · Oct 12, 2012, 09:27 PM

someone is selling the AMD FX-8350 with water cooling on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=170921648780

nt300 · Oct 12, 2012, 09:51 PM

For over $300 plus the shiping and handling

I'll wait for retail and see.

Fatal1ty39 · Oct 13, 2012, 01:32 AM

benchmarks AMD FX-8350:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1722207

eidairaman1 · Oct 13, 2012, 02:21 AM

i wouldnt trust anything till NDA is lifted and besides that guy is probably selling a fake chip so

Super XP · Oct 13, 2012, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatal1ty39

benchmarks AMD FX-8350:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1722207

Not sure if this is real or not, but what's with the CPUID saying it's a Zambezi? That should say Vishera.
Also synthetic benchmarks used always caters to Intel powered CPU's.

xenocide · Oct 13, 2012, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

Not sure if this is real or not, but what's with the CPUID saying it's a Zambezi? That should say Vishera.
Also synthetic benchmarks used always caters to Intel powered CPU's.

CPU-Z hasn't been publicly updated to reflect the new chips.

Pehla · Oct 14, 2012, 05:42 PM

even on the picture of cpu it says it manufactured in 2011!!
i cant belive anyone would by cpu from not trusty source,even before its in retail stores!!

erocker · Oct 14, 2012, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

Not sure if this is real or not, but what's with the CPUID saying it's a Zambezi? That should say Vishera.
Also synthetic benchmarks used always caters to Intel powered CPU's.

Pretty sure it's real. Most actual applications seem to be catered to Intel CPU's as well, though that's really not the case.

cadaveca · Oct 14, 2012, 06:05 PM

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erocker · Oct 14, 2012, 06:06 PM

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and that is all I will say. :P

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os2wiz · Oct 14, 2012, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Pretty sure it's real. Most actual applications seem to be catered to Intel CPU's as well, though that's really not the case.

I think with ther new windows 8 scheduler all 8 cores of the AMD FX-8000 series will receive 2 threads. Even with the fix it was only threads for 4 cores. This should improve performance considerably in many applications. I say wait 2 weeks and when both the FX-8350 and windows 8 are both available we will be able to see the dust settle and real improvements on benchmarks can be measured a little more accurately as long as the benchmarks reflect the real activities people use their cpus for and are weighted accordingly. I play a game that is a about 3 years old now called Galactic Civilizations II. It is a turned-based strategy game like Civilization for outer space. I know that gamer is multi-threaded extensively as Brad Wardell first developed the game for the os/2 platform and detailed the multi-threading in it. I noticed serious improvement in performance on that game when I installed the FX-8150 cpu as an upgrade from my old AMD Phenom II 955 cpu. I play that game with a huge universe with many planets. It stretches the cpu when its does the upgrades and changes for each turn.I know this cpu is a lot better than what it is given credit for , in spite of all its weaknesses.
By the way, as you suggested, I loosened the timings on my Ripjaws-X 2133 memory modules . So far all is well. I upped the cpu core voltage to 1.45 and actually lowered my cpu-northbridge voltage fro 1.375 to 1.3315 volts. No blue screens since I made these changes. I had previously lowered the cpu frequency to 4.0GHZ hoping for less crashes , but That did not work. Now since all these adjustments I have raised it to 4.4 GHZ with no problems for the past 4 days. I am also upgrading my cpu cooler from an H60 to an H100 so those temps will stay low during game play and testing. It should arrive Wednesday. My order to BLT for FX-8350 I suspect will take 3 weeks until fulfillment.

xenocide · Oct 14, 2012, 08:00 PM

The scheduler problem was that it would send 2 threads through 1 module instead of through 2 separate modules. They fixed it so 4 threads would use 4 modules instead of 4 cores, and it barely made a difference.

Am* · Oct 14, 2012, 08:52 PM

If the Trinity benchmarks are anything to go by, this is going to be the Bulldozer done right the same way the Phenom II was the Phenom done right. So long as the performance per watt is improved (which Trinity benchmarks ALSO suggest), these are going to sell and compete well, which in turn should give Intel a rightful kick up the backside in getting Haswell out of the door for desktops.

Good luck AMD, and here's hoping the final products reflect this.

Horrux · Oct 14, 2012, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Pretty sure it's real. Most actual applications seem to be catered to Intel CPU's as well, though that's really not the case.

See my signature.

Super XP · Oct 14, 2012, 10:31 PM

Who's planning on getting a Piledriver 8-Core for a Phenom II/Bulldozer upgrade? I hear with enhancements, tweaks and higher clock speed combined should offer approx: 20% - 30% performance improvement over current Bulldozer, but not sure in a clock for clock comparison.
If the price is right and the performance boost is fair, I may night

Norton · Oct 14, 2012, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

Who's planning on getting a Piledriver 8-Core for a Phenom II/Bulldozer upgrade? I hear with enhancements, tweaks and higher clock speed combined should offer approx: 20% - 30% performance improvement over current Bulldozer, but not sure in a clock for clock comparison.
If the price is right and the performance boost is fair, I may night

I don't know- not sure if I like AMD.....

looks at signature

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xBruce88x · Oct 14, 2012, 10:46 PM

Your such an intel fanboy

Horrux · Oct 15, 2012, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

Who's planning on getting a Piledriver 8-Core for a Phenom II/Bulldozer upgrade? I hear with enhancements, tweaks and higher clock speed combined should offer approx: 20% - 30% performance improvement over current Bulldozer, but not sure in a clock for clock comparison.
If the price is right and the performance boost is fair, I may night

I definitely think so, as my secondary gaming rig is getting a little bit underpowered with a Phenom II X4 965 and incidentally, a GTX 460 768mb on an AM3+ mobo. I think a FX-8350 with a Radeon 7970 will upgrade it nicely, keeping the GTX for PhysX.

I hate AMD too...

Melvis · Oct 15, 2012, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

Who's planning on getting a Piledriver 8-Core for a Phenom II/Bulldozer upgrade? I hear with enhancements, tweaks and higher clock speed combined should offer approx: 20% - 30% performance improvement over current Bulldozer, but not sure in a clock for clock comparison.
If the price is right and the performance boost is fair, I may night

Me!! IF the performance is there, otherwise ill be getting a faster PII

I help off for Bulldozer and we all know how that went so ive held off another yr to see how PD will go, so here is hoping this time around its what i was hoping for.

xenocide · Oct 15, 2012, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

20% - 30% performance improvement over current Bulldozer, but not sure in a clock for clock comparison.

That number seems to grow every day.

os2wiz · Oct 15, 2012, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super XP

Who's planning on getting a Piledriver 8-Core for a Phenom II/Bulldozer upgrade? I hear with enhancements, tweaks and higher clock speed combined should offer approx: 20% - 30% performance improvement over current Bulldozer, but not sure in a clock for clock comparison.
If the price is right and the performance boost is fair, I may night

My friend I ordered an FX-8350 from BLT for 208.90 US on Saturday. I also ordered a Corsair H100 , an upgrade from my H60. I also ordered Windows 8 Pro Upgrade as It may offer improved scheduling of threads for the AMD 8 core processors . I actually think it may be wise to hold back benchmarking on these babes until you can do it on a windows 8 machine. We will see soon enough of course. I doubt 20-30% improvement, more likely 12-15% on a Windows 8 system. I of course will benchmark with turbo disabled, as it is an unfair disadvantage for a FX processor ,at least in a windows 7 environmnent where it only recognizes 4 cores, out of the 8 available.

os2wiz · Oct 15, 2012, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pehla

even on the picture of cpu it says it manufactured in 2011!!
i cant belive anyone would by cpu from not trusty source,even before its in retail stores!!

That is the patent date not the manufacture date.

cdawall · Oct 15, 2012, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by os2wiz

That is the patent date not the manufacture date.

X2

1229 would be the 29th week of 2012 ie July 16th through July 22

cadaveca · Oct 15, 2012, 02:32 AM

All I wanna know is "N" or "T" pcb.

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