Ubuntu 12.10 Launches Today

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

too bad Suse, Gentoo and this could COmbine into an OS, unfortunately this isnt defacto because most games still require WINE to run on Linux (Sux actually) and most driver support isnt there fully

Get play on linux, works with wine and greatly increases compatibility, and is updated far more frequently than wine.

[mlee49]

For a FREE OS, this is such a great piece of software. I found out about Ubuntu back in 08' and it was still a bit quarky, I'm really excited to try it out.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by mlee49

For a FREE OS, this is such a great piece of software. I found out about Ubuntu back in 08' and it was still a bit quarky, I'm really excited to try it out.

It's come a very long way, I encourage people to try it, as the sooner there are more people on Linux the sooner there will be games on Linux, and the sooner there will be no reason to use Winblows. Also do try to get into the Linux steam beta.

[mlee49]

So [H]ardstuff, what games support Linux?

Not web based stuff but actual installed games.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by mlee49

So [H]ardstuff, what games support Linux?

Not web based stuff but actual installed games.

Natively well atm not a ton, it's about on par with the Mac library but I would say though it's growing much faster as IMO the linux community is far more vocal than it's Mac counterpart, with the advent of steam it will grow even more, atm there are more indie games than AAA blockbuster titles but for those Play on Linux steps in and does a pretty damn good job of making Windows games work on Linux, and staying up to date with recent games, as well as great compatibility with older games from GOG.com.

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

Get play on linux, works with wine and greatly increases compatibility, and is updated far more frequently than wine.

sux that we gotta use an emulation layer still...

[mlee49]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

Natively well atm not a ton, it's about on par with the Mac library but I would say though it's growing much faster as IMO the linux community is far more vocal than it's Mac counterpart, with the advent of steam it will grow even more, atm there are more indie games than AAA blockbuster titles but for those Play on Linux steps in and does a pretty damn good job of making Windows games work on Linux, and staying up to date with recent games, as well as great compatibility with older games from GOG.com.

Thanks man, just playing a bit of devil's advocate.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

sux that we gotta use an emulation layer still...

It's not emulation at all, it's library manipulation.

Originally Posted by mlee49

Thanks man, just playing a bit of devil's advocate.

If you want to game on Linux natively it's possible, if you want to play every AAA title that comes out on launch, not so much.

But as I stated, the more people that jump on the bandwagon, the more games will be made to run natively on Linux.



Personally I run linux about 80% of the time, I do all my email, most of my school work ( some of it requires IE so I have to be in windows for that ), web surfing, music listening, downloading, torrenting, and media watching in Linux, and even some of my gaming. However for most games and to do quicken I have to go into Windows.

But please give Linux a shot, it can only get better, it has a large and thriving and helpful community, and the larger it is the more reasons for devs to make games for it, also ubuntu may not be for you, so also try Mint, but I do recommend you stick with a Debian based distro, but Fedora is good also. There are many many many different distros, odds are there is one that is right for you.


And to give you an idea here is a small distro timeline.






Here is one focused only on Debian distros.

[eidairaman1]

You mean Direct X Manip? because certain games dont support OGL.

hmm Dino2D anyone lol.

Well what distro would you honestly recommend for Gaming?

Ive tried Suse in the past, Gentoo, Even Mandrake. All interesting but never took hard time to work with them. It sux that Windows is Defacto for PC just like how CL was for Audio cards. Dont get me wrong I like Windows 98 SE, XP, 7. Just it seems MS keeps on having too many misses with the OS now, honestly Im sure MS didnt have to release a new version more like fix the kernel and other issues with a 7 Upgrade- aka a 7.5 or something of that matter. I Personally dont have a problem purchasing an OS just as long as it works. Ive used mac in the past and i prefer windows over it honestly

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

It's not emulation at all, it's library manipulation.



If you want to game on Linux natively it's possible, if you want to play every AAA title that comes out on launch, not so much.

But as I stated, the more people that jump on the bandwagon, the more games will be made to run natively on Linux.



Personally I run linux about 80% of the time, I do all my email, most of my school work ( some of it requires IE so I have to be in windows for that ), web surfing, music listening, downloading, torrenting, and media watching in Linux, and even some of my gaming. However for most games and to do quicken I have to go into Windows.

But please give Linux a shot, it can only get better, it has a large and thriving and helpful community, and the larger it is the more reasons for devs to make games for it, also ubuntu may not be for you, so also try Mint, but I do recommend you stick with a Debian based distro, but Fedora is good also. There are many many many different distros, odds are there is one that is right for you.


And to give you an idea here is a small distro timeline.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../8/8c/Gldt.svg

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

You mean Direct X Manip? because certain games dont support OGL.

hmm Dino2D anyone lol.

Well what distro would you honestly recommend for Gaming?

Ive tried Suse in the past, Gentoo, Even Mandrake. All interesting but never took hard time to work with them. It sux that Windows is Defacto for PC just like how CL was for Audio cards. Dont get me wrong I like Windows 98 SE, XP, 7. Just it seems MS keeps on having too many misses with the OS now, honestly Im sure MS didnt have to release a new version more like fix the kernel and other issues with a 7 Upgrade- aka a 7.5 or something of that matter. I Personally dont have a problem purchasing an OS just as long as it works. Ive used mac in the past and i prefer windows over it honestly

Well SUSE while a fine distro isn't really suited for gaming, as it's more geared towards server functions and database manipulation.

Gentoo, is not very user friendly IMO, and the community is small but dedicated.

I personally am a big fan of Debian and it's derivative distros, mainly because they have the largest community's and also back in the day they had the best packet delivery and management system, which now days is much less of an issue. So I would tend to recommend Mint, Ubuntu (if you can put up with unity ( YUCK)), or just straight up Debian, as aagin they have the largest community's so you are far more likely to find a solution should you encounter a problem, and as the most widely used distros your more likely to find what you want for your distro, without having to go and force it to work and compile things ect.

So any of those 3 would be good I personally use Mint at the moment, though I also have an up to date Ubuntu partition, so i recommend you start with either of those, and see if they fit your needs, both support a wide range of desktops from Xfce to kde, as a Gnome fan I made the switch to Mint about a year ago when Ubuntu made it clear they were going to push Unity over Gnome.


So to summarize all that at the moment there is no true "best for gaming" distro, and as atm it's all about compatibility, the most popular and widely used distros like Mint and Ubuntu, seem to be the first to get games, and such, so I would recommend those two for those wishing to get their feet wet in Linux and still wanting to have a chance at gaming.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

You mean Direct X Manip? because certain games dont support OGL.

I'm pretty sure the DX libraries are re-mapped to OpenGL bindings inside WINE. All things considered the performance is pretty good. OpenGL performance is that much better because they can do direct mappings because OpenGL APIs on Linux is almost identical to OpenGL APIs on Windows. I haven't used WINE in a couple years, but even back then it wasn't half bad.

[mlee49]

For the love of Pete, is there a Torrent for this?!

I'm dl'ing at 75kB/s

[Delta6326]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

Well SUSE while a fine distro isn't really suited for gaming, as it's more geared towards server functions and database manipulation.


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So to summarize all that at the moment there is no true "best for gaming" distro, and as atm it's all about compatibility, the most popular and widely used distros like Mint and Ubuntu, seem to be the first to get games, and such, so I would recommend those two for those wishing to get their feet wet in Linux and still wanting to have a chance at gaming.

What version of Mint are you using? I have tried Ubuntu, but not the biggest fan, I can never find the proper drivers for things...

MATE or Cinnamon? By looks i think i might like Cinnamon, but not for sure on the differences.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by Delta6326

What version of Mint are you using? I have tried Ubuntu, but not the biggest fan, I can never find the proper drivers for things...

MATE or Cinnamon? By looks i think i might like Cinnamon, but not for sure on the differences.

I'm on the most current build Cinnamon.

[Delta6326]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

I'm on the most current build Cinnamon.

downloading now will give a try.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by Delta6326

downloading now will give a try.

The main reason, I am a fan of Mint, is because I have been using Gnome, for the longest time, and with Ubuntu trying to push Unity on it's users, I more or less switched to MINT.

[Aquinus]

Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

The main reason, I am a fan of Mint, is because I have been using Gnome, for the longest time, and with Ubuntu trying to push Unity on it's users, I more or less switched to MINT.

What does this have anything to do with Ubuntu being good or bad? You have access to Chromium by default and you can add sable Chrome by adding Google's PPA to aptitude. You also out of all people should know that if you know what you're doing you're not forced to even install Unity.

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

Originally Posted by Aquinus

What does this have anything to do with Ubuntu being good or bad? You have access to Chromium by default and you can add sable Chrome by adding Google's PPA to aptitude. You also out of all people should know that if you know what you're doing you're not forced to even install Unity.

Yes I can but it's more work and I am lazy, as such I am giving Mint a try, and really starting to like it.