AMD Catalyst 12.11 Performance Analysis - Page 4

Clubber_Lang · Oct 22, 2012, 03:23 PM

Sweet! Thanks Wizz!

1Kurgan1 · Oct 22, 2012, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

too bad after this they couldnt focus on the 6 series and 5 series improvements

I don't think there is anymore to be gained there. Those cards run the old shader type that AMD has known.

RejZoR · Oct 22, 2012, 04:26 PM

I wonder when we'll get the actual drivers today... If it's based on some location on west coast of USA that means it's like morning there right now. AMD engineers waking up slowly i guess

eclipx · Oct 22, 2012, 04:34 PM

Nice i have the 7870 but where can i download it? I'm using 12.9 beta drivers

VulkanBros · Oct 22, 2012, 04:48 PM

At own risk: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alie...a-drivers.html

johnnyfiive · Oct 22, 2012, 05:00 PM

This is exactly why I'm glad I went with a 7970 even after having a gtx 680. NICE review wizz.

FreedomEclipse · Oct 22, 2012, 05:07 PM

no performance boost for 6970s? I guess theres no need for me to update then.

raghu78 · Oct 22, 2012, 06:52 PM

newegg and superbiz have the Never settle game bundle offer already up on their site for the HD 7900 cards.

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http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?d...=%23displaytop
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erocker · Oct 22, 2012, 06:54 PM

Looks like Newegg is jacking up the price too.

TheMailMan78 · Oct 22, 2012, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Looks like Newegg is jacking up the price too.

lol you knew that was coming.

Anyway Newegg's days are numbered. There is a bill in congress to make e-tailers charge tax now.

UbErN00b · Oct 22, 2012, 07:06 PM

Sorry didn't read the entire thread though are these available now as beta? can't seem to find anything in the OP or on AMD

erocker · Oct 22, 2012, 07:13 PM

"They found a bug" and there will be an updated release later today.

W1zzard · Oct 22, 2012, 07:14 PM

2 hours ago AMD told me 14 minutes ago

alwayssts · Oct 22, 2012, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Widjaja

I think the current drivers for the 7870s are still somewhat buggy/immature.
e.g.
68% max load readings
Random core drops

I had not heard this before, but it does not surprise me. The average CU usage for 32 ROPs is approx 1280/.68 (18xx shaders, ~29 CUs). Been saying this since the Tahiti launch ad nauseam. It is why 7950 is efficient, 680 is efficient (when factoring in sfus amd does with shaders), and 8870 will probably be efficient.

(I suppose considering these drivers 'has been' is more accurate than 'is'...need to re-evaluate at some point and figure out what they did in these drivers because unit efficiency has now done a flip-flop with nvidia...granted it's only a percent or so better now on average going by the tpu graphs...but it was around 5-6% less. That is a HUGE deal and could change future product match-ups like 660ti versus 8850 or an 6 SMX part using less than 150w versus 7870.)

Either way, I finally broke and bought a 7870 last week. This is a nice surprise. Seems 'old' stock 7970 performance is now somewhat within reach with overclocking...and that is just flat out awesome. Doesn't really change the market for the card, but it sure will be nice to have a cushion rather than just barely squeaking by with acceptable frames at 1080p and the settings cranked.

Novulux · Oct 22, 2012, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMailMan78

lol you knew that was coming.

Anyway Newegg's days are numbered. There is a bill in congress to make e-tailers charge tax now.

Hah, certain states like California already had to. Doesn't stop me from buying items from them if a product is cheaper/more available on their site than from Microcenter or Fry's.

VulkanBros · Oct 22, 2012, 07:46 PM

They are up now

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...w_vista64.aspx

theoneandonlymrk · Oct 22, 2012, 07:48 PM

definately trying them just to see anyways

ty for the link, i did look earlier but no luck
ive 12.10beta and had them all prior so ill know

Widjaja · Oct 22, 2012, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwayssts

I had not heard this before, but it does not surprise me.

The issue is only there if you intentionally monitor the card with GPU-Z logging.
Otherwise not noticeable in real World performance from what I have found so I am putting it down to false readings.

Some people have reported seeing not increase in fps performance over a 6870 compared to a 7870.

I am also wondering if what is reported in GPU-Z is the source of the Sapphire 7870 OC black screen issue rather than a BIOS issue.
Either way Sapphire have released a BIOS which corrects the problem for the card.

VulkanBros · Oct 22, 2012, 07:53 PM

They updated the chipset drivers as well v. 12.10

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownloa...d_windows.aspx

W1zzard · Oct 22, 2012, 08:03 PM

Driver can be found at TPU downloads: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...11_Beta_3.html

erocker · Oct 22, 2012, 08:06 PM

I hope the "media codec package" works with these. The program formerly known as AVIVO just didn't show up for me with 12.9's.

Boneface · Oct 22, 2012, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VulkanBros

At own risk: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alie...a-drivers.html

I gabbed those, bf3 does run loads better but image seems like they have the AntiAliasing Post forced on, At least thats what it seems like to me.

TheMailMan78 · Oct 22, 2012, 08:10 PM

Really nice to see ATI get their act together! Kudos!

InnocentCriminal · Oct 22, 2012, 08:21 PM

Must admit I'm a little gutted but still, I'll give 'em ago. Love my 6970*.

Let's hope that they keep this up and the next set are even better.

RejZoR · Oct 22, 2012, 08:24 PM

Drivers are also available on AMD's webpage...

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