Grrrr!!

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 06:42 AM

Did all the research,looked at the Newegg video about building the computer but no luck!
Maybe I am too tired to think.

Anyway I finally got all the necessary parts.

Intel i7-920 CPU/ 2.66GHz with stock cooler.
Asus Sabertooth X58 Motherboard
Antec DF-10 Case
460W Cooler Master PSU
8GB Gskill Ram
Sandisk Extreme SSD 240GB

Maybe I forgot other things.
But I put it all together,powered it up and nothing.Only the green light just lit up on the motherboard.None of the case fans were going,the PSU fan was not going.I double-triple-checked all wires and nothing was amiss.Tried another working PSU and same thing!!

Anyone knows what could be wrong.I am super tired so if it is anything too technical,i'll wait till I am not tired to try it.
Only experience before with building computers was building the one I'm using now.Easy with no problems!So I am a novice at this.

Helppppp!! lol

DanishDevil · Oct 26, 2012, 06:45 AM

I don't see a video card there..........

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 06:56 AM

Oh crap,that i forgot that bit,eekk!....but would you even need that to POST?

Jetster · Oct 26, 2012, 06:58 AM

Yes on that board. What is your monitor connected too?

But the fans should still spin

Check the front panel conectorrs

erocker · Oct 26, 2012, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziquester

Oh crap,that i forgot that bit,eekk!....but would you even need that to POST?

Probably, I would think the case fans would spin up though.. Be sure to check the wires going from the motherboard to the power button. Try flipping it the other way.

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetster

Yes on that board. What is your monitor connected too?

But the fans should still spin

Check the front panel conectorrs

I didn't connect it to the monitor.I just wanted it to POST.But it didn't.I'll install the card later on.Yup I assumed the fans would spin but nothing.Especially with the PSU fan not going on both working PSUs.
Checked connectors.I always find them soooo confusing though but I think I did it right,I played around with the Power SW and Reset (I think) ones and no luck

Quote:

Originally Posted by erocker

Probably, I would think the case fans would spin up though.. Be sure to check the wires going from the motherboard to the power button. Try flipping it the other way.

It won't flip the other way,I tried.
Just a question though,there's two power plugs going into the motherboard,one is a big long,ribbon size one and the other is smaller near the CPU.A 8pin one.However both my PSU's got either a 4 pin and 6 pin one.I plugged them in without luck.
It is not necessary to have a full 8 pin plug for the second one,is it?

HammerON · Oct 26, 2012, 07:14 AM

Did you plug in the 24-pin and 8-pin power connectors to the motherboard?

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HammerON

Did you plug in the 24-pin and 8-pin power connectors to the motherboard?

Yup I did with both..One PSU had a 4 pin and the other PSU had a 6 pin.Plugged them in as there was no 8 pin connector.Does it matter that there was no 8 pin?

HammerON · Oct 26, 2012, 07:20 AM

Your PSU should have a 4+4 pin that you combine to make an 8 pin.

"Features
Connectors1 x Main connector (20+4Pin)
1 x 12V(4+4Pin)
3 x Peripheral
4 x SATA
1 x Floppy
1 x PCI-e"

Source:
COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-I3 460W ATX12V...

johnspack · Oct 26, 2012, 07:23 AM

Has anyone looked at his psu? jeez....

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HammerON

Your PSU should have a 4+4 pin that you combine to make an 8 pin.

"Features
Connectors1 x Main connector (20+4Pin)
1 x 12V(4+4Pin)
3 x Peripheral
4 x SATA
1 x Floppy
1 x PCI-e"

Source:
COOLER MASTER Elite 460 RS-460-PSAR-I3 460W ATX12V...

Thanks HammerOn,hopefully that is the problem.I will have to try that on my day's off and report back here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Has anyone looked at his psu? jeez....

Lol John you coolmaster hater! I always thought they were a good brand.I got the Elite case of theirs with my Core 2 Duo housed in it.
Don't worry,I will upgrade later on when finances are available.

EiSFX · Oct 26, 2012, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Has anyone looked at his psu? jeez....

He has already said he has tried another PSU that he knows that works i'm thinking he just forgot to use both of the 4 pin connectors

HammerON · Oct 26, 2012, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziquester

460W CoolMaster PSU

Do you mean Cooler Master?

Derek12 · Oct 26, 2012, 07:38 AM

Maybe you have a short anywhere if using the 4+4 pin connector still doesn't turn on you should take everything out of the case and try to power it. Also can be a bad PSU.

It should power up fine wo/video card and beep.

In some cases it even can turn on without the 4 or 4+4 connector (lights & fans) but may depend on the motherboard. All mobos I used did power on without those connectors.

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EiSFX

He has already said he has tried another PSU that he knows that works i'm thinking he just forgot to use both of the 4 pin connectors

Yup error on my part EiSFX.I was trying to rush to finish building this computer so I can go back to painting the house lol.Got too many projects happening at the same time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HammerON

Do you mean Cooler Master?

Yup Cooler Master HammerON.
John won't like this but I realised both PSUs' are Cooler Masters lol.

lyndonguitar · Oct 26, 2012, 07:42 AM

jumpers?

Ziquester · Oct 26, 2012, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek12

Maybe you have a short anywhere if using the 4+4 pin connector still doesn't turn on you should take everything out of the case and try to power it. Also can be a bad PSU.

It should power up fine wo/video card and beep.

Tried two PSUs that are working fine.I used the one that's currently running my system that I am using now.
When I attend to the computer next,I just might remove it from the case and try and power up.

johnspack · Oct 26, 2012, 07:50 AM

Sorry, just have had too many bad experiences with Coolermasters.... I'll be mellow now....

Derek12 · Oct 26, 2012, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziquester

Tried two PSUs that are working fine.I used the one that's currently running my system that I am using now.
When I attend to the computer next,I just might remove it from the case and try and power up.

Also I forgotten, check the CMOS jumper is in the 1-2 position, specially if still fails with the 4+4 connected. I had boards that refuse to power on if it was removed/ or placed to the Clear CMOS position.

BTW Cooler Master is a good brand, not like Corsair, Seasonic or XFX but it's more than decent...

johnspack · Oct 26, 2012, 08:05 AM

No, it really isn't, just buy a real psu, and don't risk damaging everything you own! Coolermaster is like the little retard kid brother, means well, but will break everything.....

Derek12 · Oct 26, 2012, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

No, it really isn't, just buy a real psu, and don't risk damaging everything you own! Coolermaster is like the little retard kid brother, means well, but will break everything.....

And what's a "real PSU" for you? I saw many computers with Cooler Master and none had issues. Anyway the OP said they are fine so this doesn't matter for his/her problem.

lyndonguitar · Oct 26, 2012, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

No, it really isn't, just buy a real psu

so its a fake psu?

johnspack · Oct 26, 2012, 08:11 AM

Sorry but I've seen the results of Coolermaster failures. What is better? All the upper end Corsairs, Silverstones, Seasonics, some XFXs... do the research, it's not hard.

Derek12 · Oct 26, 2012, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Sorry but I've seen the results of Coolermaster failures. What is better? All the upper end Corsairs, Silverstones, Seasonics, some XFXs... do the research, it's not hard.

And there are people having bad experience with those brands, should we say now they are bad? Your experience with them is not all.
If there was a brand 100% failsafe...

Anyway this is not the issue of the OP, he/she said they are fine and is currently using one of them, the problem is elsewhere...
/offtopic

lyndonguitar · Oct 26, 2012, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnspack

Sorry but I've seen the results of Coolermaster failures. What is better? All the upper end Corsairs, Silverstones, Seasonics, some XFXs... do the research, it's not hard.

all brands have failures, and even if CM's failure rate or your experience with it is bad enough for you to hate it, most of the time it actually works.

generally PSU's are safe, even the generic or "fake" ones, as long as you know your wattage stuff. and even if it fails, most of the time, from my experience, it just wont start but won't break your components.

I've used and built alot of PCs and many of them just used generic. no problems at all.

This is the wattage output of his PSU, judging from the said specs above, it is more than enough.

to the OP: make sure the jumpers are set correctly

Oct 26, 2012, 06:42 AM	#1
Ziquester Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 34 (0.09/day) Thanks: 34 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grrrr!! Did all the research,looked at the Newegg video about building the computer but no luck! Maybe I am too tired to think. Anyway I finally got all the necessary parts. Intel i7-920 CPU/ 2.66GHz with stock cooler. Asus Sabertooth X58 Motherboard Antec DF-10 Case 460W Cooler Master PSU 8GB Gskill Ram Sandisk Extreme SSD 240GB Maybe I forgot other things. But I put it all together,powered it up and nothing.Only the green light just lit up on the motherboard.None of the case fans were going,the PSU fan was not going.I double-triple-checked all wires and nothing was amiss.Tried another working PSU and same thing!! Anyone knows what could be wrong.I am super tired so if it is anything too technical,i'll wait till I am not tired to try it. Only experience before with building computers was building the one I'm using now.Easy with no problems!So I am a novice at this. Helppppp!! lol Last edited by Ziquester; Oct 26, 2012 at 07:40 AM.

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Oct 26, 2012, 06:56 AM	#3
Ziquester Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 34 (0.09/day) Thanks: 34 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Oh crap,that i forgot that bit,eekk!....but would you even need that to POST?

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,731 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Sorry, just have had too many bad experiences with Coolermasters.... I'll be mellow now.... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,731 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	No, it really isn't, just buy a real psu, and don't risk damaging everything you own! Coolermaster is like the little retard kid brother, means well, but will break everything..... __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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johnspack Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Nelson B.C. Canada Posts: 3,731 (1.81/day) Thanks: 283 Thanked 750 Times in 516 Posts System Specs	Sorry but I've seen the results of Coolermaster failures. What is better? All the upper end Corsairs, Silverstones, Seasonics, some XFXs... do the research, it's not hard. __________________ Heatware: http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=73875 Clan !! The Fighting 24th !! http://fxxiv.forumotion.ca/ Buy the games you like! Boycott the garbage! Cruncher: P6T Xeon ES W3570 6Gbs Ram 1xgtx285 1xgtx260

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