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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:16 AM   #276
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You can snap any program side by side.Does not have to be an APP.

Mussels or anyone new to Windows8 try this free app Windows8 cheats,It will go over some keyboard and other shortcuts to help with the learning curve.

http://www.digitalmason.net/

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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:26 AM   #277
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They won`t which is why the START MENU crowd is pissed,Look at it this way if someone was smart enough to make it an App they would make a killing at it.Besides If you use Win8 out of the box,get over the learning curve of no start menu,You kinda find your speed pace for production .Just takes time.

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Yea i have been using it all afternoon and got used to it abit but not having the start button and always having to push into the bottom left to get the start thingy up is annoying and half the time i end up opening IE instead grrrr.

Overall i just don't like it sorry, to much extra work that shouldn't be there far as im concerned.

I had two friends have a play with it i said to them bring up the calculator none of them could find it, then i said, shut the computer down, 5 mins later they just gave up, its a poor design, but that's just me.
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Old Oct 28, 2012, 11:29 AM   #278
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Yea i have been using it all afternoon and got used to it abit but not having the start button and always having to push into the bottom left to get the start thingy up is annoying and half the time i end up opening IE instead grrrr.

Overall i just don't like it sorry, to much extra work that shouldn't be there far as im concerned.

I had two friends have a play with it i said to them bring up the calculator none of them could find it, then i said, shut the computer down, 5 mins later they just gave up, its a poor design, but that's just me.
Go to the lower left or right
left = Apps Metro then scroll for the calculator.Right = shut down settings search and apps.Or you could just winkey+X shortcuts.
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I had two friends have a play with it i said to them bring up the calculator none of them could find it, then i said, shut the computer down, 5 mins later they just gave up, its a poor design, but that's just me.
did the same, as did my brother. that alone gives away how bad the OS gets, its so god damned unintuitive.
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did the same, as did my brother. that alone gives away how bad the OS gets, its so god damned unintuitive.
At Metro right click the bottom select in the pop up ALL APPS Under Windows Accessories you will find the calculator.

Here download this,it should help. http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-...b-cb09267680e8
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At Metro right click the bottom select in the pop up ALL APPS Under Windows Accessories you will find the calculator.
find the shortest way you can, to start calc.


see how many keypresses/clicks it takes.


on vista/7 i could click/hit the windows key, type cal and hit enter. more or less instant. can the same be done in 8? nope.


hell it even takes me longer to login, since the first keypress is what brings up the login screen -.-
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At Metro right click the bottom select in the pop up ALL APPS Under Windows Accessories you will find the calculator.
Thats the problem i found this out BUT if you have never used it and no other version of Windows before this have at the bottom right a menu screen thingy that pops up, you just dont look for it and none of my friends did either, there isnt even a hint to say > click her eor hover here to bring up the menu (once on desktop) just silly
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just click winkey+ c guys.......
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Or if you have a calculator button on your keyboard just use it.
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Or if you have a calculator button on your keyboard just use it.
Cheat!! but agreed.

It was only a eg. I could of said bring up paint or something like that and they would of been stuck searching for it.
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At Metro right click the bottom select in the pop up ALL APPS Under Windows Accessories you will find the calculator.

Here download this,it should help. http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-...b-cb09267680e8
When I click to store in metro I can see only very few apps, those that came with the OS mostly so what's the catch? Is it region locked, must I do something else?
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on vista/7 i could click/hit the windows key, type cal and hit enter. more or less instant. can the same be done in 8? nope.
You can always hit win + r (Run) and type calc, notepad whatever there
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You can always hit win + r (Run) and type calc, notepad whatever there
that works if you know exactly what you're after, and its an exe. i can type sound and get the control panel sound, or sound recorder, or an exe called sound. they went from a useful search right in the start menu to this weird game of hide and keep hiding.
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that works if you know exactly what you're after, and its an exe. i can type sound and get the control panel sound, or sound recorder, or an exe called sound. they went from a useful search right in the start menu to this weird game of hide and keep hiding.
Yes but if you don't then you can just hit win + f (find) and search there. There are 3 categories: apps, settings and files. It's quite intuitive, I like it. W8 indexing is quite faster than W7.
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When I click to store in metro I can see only very few apps, those that came with the OS mostly so what's the catch? Is it region locked, must I do something else?
scroll over until you see Productivity go to new releases.
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Yea i have been using it all afternoon and got used to it abit but not having the start button and always having to push into the bottom left to get the start thingy up is annoying and half the time i end up opening IE instead grrrr.

Overall i just don't like it sorry, to much extra work that shouldn't be there far as im concerned.

I had two friends have a play with it i said to them bring up the calculator none of them could find it, then i said, shut the computer down, 5 mins later they just gave up, its a poor design, but that's just me.
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Yes but if you don't then you can just hit win + f (find) and search there. There are 3 categories: apps, settings and files. It's quite intuitive, I like it. W8 indexing is quite faster than W7.
What Drone said, Win + f, start typing "calc" and it shows up, click it. Done!
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scroll over until you see Productivity go to new releases.
I have tried everything. There are only few apps, all free. I can't select anything like "new releases". I live in Romania so maybe it's "****ed over here. Hope there's gonna be a fix.
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I smell success. Windows RT is a winner. At last Microsoft can pose a real threat in the mobile business to Apple and Android. Apart from the app store which I'm sure will get bigger, Surface is in so many ways more useful than an iPad. This is a productivity tool, the iPad is a gadget.
Nope. Not for media junkies like me. The media players blow on Win RT. There are no proper media players.
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Yep, it's a touch OS. But you can completely ignore the start "formerly known as metro" UI launch the desktop app (yes, it's an app) and you're on a fast and reliable desktop PC OS.
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Nope. Not for media junkies like me. The media players blow on Win RT. There are no proper media players.
Give it time, someone (or Microsoft, I hope) will release a decent media player. VLC on RT would be awesome!
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Yep, it's a touch OS. But you can completely ignore the start "formerly known as metro" UI launch the desktop app (yes, it's an app) and you're on a fast and reliable desktop PC OS.
Going to the start screen to pick a program while doing something else that originated from the desktop is a bit distracting sometimes though.
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Give it time, someone (or Microsoft, I hope) will release a decent media player. VLC on RT would be awesome!
If it were to get on the Windows Store.
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Managed to solve the mostly empty App store issue. It appears that if you set your language, time, region to Romania (and probably other unfortunate countries) the store defaults to an empty Romanian (or other unfortunate country) only store.

So after a day messing with my windows live account and trying to find anything related on the web, troubleshooting the apps and whatnot I decided to change the language (some of the apps on the start screen were written in Romanian some in English). To cut the long story short now I am enjoying the app store (UK region). Wonder if set the language to US International, the store will have even more items to sell?
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