Intel Core i7-3970X Extreme Edition 6-core Processor Starts Selling - Page 2

mtosev · Oct 31, 2012, 05:18 PM

overpriced extreme cpus like always

Akrian · Oct 31, 2012, 05:38 PM

Does it come with a free butler ? If they didn't include Alfred, then I'm not buing it. =P

Jizzler · Oct 31, 2012, 05:44 PM

They should included a free Xeon Phi to make up for lack of cores...

nickbaldwin86 · Oct 31, 2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drdeathx

No its not. Ever hear of L3 cache?

Go smash your face into a wall... 3MB more L3 Cache isn't worth the extra coin... sorry.

I looked that the specs... I even know what L3 cache does and I am positive you wouldn't notice the difference of 3MB

The Von Matrices · Oct 31, 2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgoth

im still waiting for prices to drop on 6 core LGA1366 Xeons

This will never occur. They'll be discontinued before prices drop.

TheHunter · Oct 31, 2012, 05:54 PM

They should release that IvyBridge-E 8core (16threads) already, instead of milking SB-e to death..

lol Intel u disappoint

m1dg3t · Oct 31, 2012, 05:56 PM

I see the specs and i'm like "Oh! Interesting" then i see the price and i'm like "wTf is wrong with Intel?" then i remember there is no competition for them in this bracket

And so the monopoly/set pricing continues...

I have been looking at these EE CPUs for the last 8 years or so and i can honestly say that i don't think the pricing "scheme" has changed at all in that time. They still want ~ $1200 for a single CPU

largon · Oct 31, 2012, 06:24 PM

Seems to me LGA2011 is heading the way of LGA1366.
I have a feeling Intel might just axe IB-E altogether and launch a new HEDT platform based on Haswell in mid-late and leave LGA2011 out dying much like they did with LGA1366, only worse as this time as users hoping to upgrade to IB-E would have just aging SB-E to poke at.

Octavean · Oct 31, 2012, 07:12 PM

Actually, from my perspective the LGA2011 platform ranges in price from about ~$229.99 for the Core i7 3820 on up (at least for me at Microcenter). There are also Xeon E5 processors for way less then the EE line.

I think people look at EE chips, often like what they see then freak when they see the price. I’m not saying it isn’t a justified sticker shock but clearly the product isn’t priced for you if its going to cause conniption fits.

It’s a classic case of I want the best money can buy (or high-end) but don’t want to pay for it. EE pricing has always been consistently high from what I can recall so this is nothing new.

Having said that, Intel has done there job with the lower-end LGA1155 platform very well indeed. Therefore there is a lower cost but highly powerful option and this will likely continue on the upcoming LGA1150 platform as well.

Binge · Oct 31, 2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KissSh0t

You could build a pretty good gaming system for the price of this CPU....

and you wouldn't be able to reduce your render times with a good gaming system.

tacosRcool · Oct 31, 2012, 10:09 PM

overpriced...

jihadjoe · Nov 1, 2012, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tacosRcool

overpriced...

Not gonna argue with that, but the price is including Singapore's GST. If you visit Singapore and buy the chip to use overseas, you can get a refund on the 7% tax.

Aquinus · Nov 1, 2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by btarunr

The fastest Xeon E5-series chip based on this silicon, with 8-cores maintains 130W with 2.70 GHz core clock.

Someone is forgetting about the Xeon E5-2687W. 3.1Ghz, 3.8Ghz turbo, 8C, 150 Watt TDP.

http://ark.intel.com/products/64582/...-GTs-Intel-QPI

I also find that the 10Mb L3 is a nice perk with the 3820.

eidairaman1 · Nov 1, 2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by trickson

Too rich for my blood. Nice chip just way too much money! I can buy a car for that!

Not bad but This is to be replaced next year by IVB-E already

Melvis · Nov 1, 2012, 02:24 AM

150w??

and people are complaining about 8 core PD at 125w, seriously?

cadaveca · Nov 1, 2012, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Melvis

150w??

and people are complaining about 8 core PD at 125w, seriously?

Most people OC far above that. THAT is why it's an issue. Far different to start at 77W than to start @ 150 W...

I'm tempted to try to get a sample, but at 150W, I dunno.

4.0 GHz turbo clocks though...yeah, I'mma gonna ask for one.

Because my current 3960X @ 5.0 GHz is too damn slow.

Melvis · Nov 1, 2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cadaveca

Most people OC far above that. THAT is why it's an issue. Far different to start at 77W than to start @ 150 W...

I'm tempted to try to get a sample, but at 150W, I dunno.

4.0 GHz turbo clocks though...yeah, I'mma gonna ask for one.

Because my current 3960X @ 5.0 GHz is too damn slow.

I can understand that for OC, but most people dont and honestly its a 6core CPU thats at 150w? in my eyes that pretty dam high considering AMD's 8 core dont ya think?

dude12564 · Nov 1, 2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Melvis

I can understand that for OC, but most people dont and honestly its a 6core CPU thats at 150w? in my eyes that pretty dam high considering AMD's 8 core dont ya think?

I think they tend to overestimate the TDP in some cases - like the FX-4170 with a tdp of 125W.

cadaveca · Nov 1, 2012, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melvis

I can understand that for OC, but most people dont and honestly its a 6core CPU thats at 150w? in my eyes that pretty dam high considering AMD's 8 core dont ya think?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude12564

I think they tend to overestimate the TDP in some cases - like the FX-4170 with a tdp of 125W.

First TDP has nothing to do with power drawn..it has to do with the cooling needed. very different figures, and se yes, it's going to be overstated, because when it's understated ,the chip will overheat.

Yet...

...

I had 3960X pull 155 W @ STOCK. Through 8-pin only.

FX-4100 STOCK 122 W.

150W is NOT that high, really a 7950 or GTX670 is like 225W, cooled with a dinky little cage fan and a cooler that is barely an inch thick.

150 W is NOTHING.

Now, my 3770K, at stock, pulls 50 W.

But then, I don't see many others pulling 4.6 GHz or more @ less than 1.2 V, like my chip does, although there are definitely others out there... I've seen a handful better, for sure.

Silicon quality is actually in far greater variation than most think, it seems.

btarunr · Nov 1, 2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by largon

Seems to me LGA2011 is heading the way of LGA1366.
I have a feeling Intel might just axe IB-E altogether and launch a new HEDT platform based on Haswell in mid-late and leave LGA2011 out dying much like they did with LGA1366, only worse as this time as users hoping to upgrade to IB-E would have just aging SB-E to poke at.

Ivy Bridge-E is a reality so far. LGA1366 lived through two micro-architectures: 45 nm Nehalem and 32 nm Westmere. I'd imagine the same for LGA2011: 32 nm SnB-E and 22 nm IvB-E.

Rei86 · Nov 1, 2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by [H]@RD5TUFF

We want technology that actually delivers performance.

Intel hurry up and give us Ivy Bridge - E already!

read this post and actually laughed my ass off for a sec.

can't wait for the TPU reviews to show that its not worth the extra money over the i7-3930k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lionheart

Is it silly that the only thing I found interesting is the black box packaging?

I haven't bought a AMD Chip for my personal rig in a long time (FX53 personal, JUSt purchased a A8-5600k for the HTPC); But I gotta say AMD does the packaging better. Look at thos FX-8XXX boxes. So nice.

largon · Nov 1, 2012, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by btarunr

Ivy Bridge-E is a reality so far.

If IB-E actually launches I wonder how Ivy Bridge arch chippery can remain relevant against LGA1150 Haswell and it's Xeon counterparts that will launch before it. But ofcourse, it's another story if Haswell offers no CPU-side performance bump vs. Ivy...

SIGSEGV · Nov 1, 2012, 06:05 AM

meh..

Aquinus · Nov 1, 2012, 08:02 AM

Well, I got a 3820 knowing (or at least thinking that I knew,) that IVB-E was going to be coming down the road for skt2011. Intel did a good job with their 22nm chips, but I bet you they can do better. Look at SB-E over SB for example, SB-E added support for native DDR3-1600 where SB was native at 1333 and SB-E "supports" PCI-E 3.0 and plenty of it just to name a couple big ones. I suspect that IVB-E might have some Haswell-like features if SB-E was any indication.

Vego Actina · Nov 1, 2012, 08:33 AM

question is: does it clock better

i have at e5 1660 from 2012 and it needs lower v for everything below 5ghz than my last 3960x

hope to see some improvement with thisone

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Oct 31, 2012, 05:44 PM	#28
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Oct 31, 2012, 06:24 PM	#33
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Oct 31, 2012, 07:12 PM	#34
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Nov 1, 2012, 02:24 AM	#40
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Nov 1, 2012, 06:05 AM	#48
SIGSEGV Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bandung, Indonesia Posts: 377 (0.85/day) Thanks: 108 Thanked 75 Times in 47 Posts System Specs	meh.. __________________ And if you hear me talking on the wind You've got to understand We must remain perfect strangers [Deep Purple - Perfect Strangers]

System Name:	SIGSEGV
Processor:	Intel \| AMD
Motherboard:	ASUS Maximus V Formula \| Biostar N68S3+
Cooling:	EK & Bitpower
Memory:	16 Gb DDR3
Video Card:	680/7970
Hard Disk:	7TB
Optical Drive:	DVD-RW Samsung \| ASUS DVD-RW
CRT/LCD Model:	22" LCDTV
Case:	Cooler Master Storm Trooper
Sound Card:	Creative
PSU:	Silverstone 850W \| Unrated PSU
Software:	LinuxMint 14 Nadia Cinnamon with Kernel 3.7.0 \| Slackware - Windows XP
Benchmarks:	i dont care about scores

Nov 1, 2012, 08:02 AM	#49
Aquinus Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Dover, New Hampshire, USA Posts: 4,508 (8.86/day) Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 1,424 Times in 1,064 Posts System Specs	Well, I got a 3820 knowing (or at least thinking that I knew,) that IVB-E was going to be coming down the road for skt2011. Intel did a good job with their 22nm chips, but I bet you they can do better. Look at SB-E over SB for example, SB-E added support for native DDR3-1600 where SB was native at 1333 and SB-E "supports" PCI-E 3.0 and plenty of it just to name a couple big ones. I suspect that IVB-E might have some Haswell-like features if SB-E was any indication. __________________ MyHeat

Nov 1, 2012, 08:33 AM	#50
Vego Actina Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 46 (0.12/day) Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts System Specs	question is: does it clock better i have at e5 1660 from 2012 and it needs lower v for everything below 5ghz than my last 3960x hope to see some improvement with thisone __________________ CPU-Z validation sig pics temporarily blocked

System Name:	Actina GameOn i3968n UBBBA+ (Ultimate Biggest Bang BadAss)
Processor:	intel 3960X @ gazillion MHz
Motherboard:	MSI Big Bang-XPower II
Cooling:	Some XSPC some Silverstone Air Penetrator some EK some mayhems lots of my heart
Memory:	16GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z 2133
Video Card:	4 way SLI of 680GTXs
Hard Disk:	RAID of Intel SSDs + 3TB WD Caviar
Optical Drive:	BR
CRT/LCD Model:	Dell 2711
Case:	Silverstone TJ11
Sound Card:	something with THX + onkyo tx-sr608
PSU:	Silverstone
Software:	Windows 7,5 mobile :)
Benchmarks:	http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/4164332

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