Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet - Page 9

mediasorcerer · Oct 24, 2012, 04:39 AM

Might give it a go sometime in the future, i'm warming to the idea.

epicfail · Oct 24, 2012, 05:09 AM

everything you need in 1 click away? oh thats bad design,
upgrades old drivers to windows 8 drivers? horrible
clean install vs clean install boots 2 times faster? windows 8 wins

i fail to see the issues with windows 8 other than people bitching cuz its the trend.

oh and this is posted from a asus laptop running windows 8, with keyboard and mouse. love it, everythings easy to access.

Im also selling it at my place of work and old people seem to love how we can make everything all in 1 screen and easy to access everything, big symbols are awesome for them too cuz they cant see well.

hellrazor · Oct 24, 2012, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

I hated (hate) Zune and iPods. I like my good old drag-drop-play generic MP3 player. Samsung I think? I forget. I haven't used it in 5 years.

I've got a 1Gb version of these.

Pegas-x · Oct 26, 2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by v12dock

Windows 8 is great... With start8

I don't think so, Windows 7 best

Lazzer408 · Oct 29, 2012, 12:20 AM

Thought about it... If 8 fixing the following issues, I'll consider it.

1: Windows will not pop up and steal focus away from active windows causing your computer to reboot and loose all your work. Example when typing: "Hi Bob, I would have made it to the party but I was..." POPUP - Would you like to reboot now? Reboot Cancel "...really tired". Windows responds to you pressing R and reboots.

2: Your icons should stay snapped to a grid. Changing resolution down and then back up will not scatter#uck your icons randomly.

3: Windows networking will maintain all network resources without having to refresh manually.

4: Microsoft starts listening to customers.

These are just a handfull of the issues I experience almost daily. I don't just use a computer. I use the shit out of it every day. Playing BF3 24/7 doesn't count.

eidairaman1 · Oct 29, 2012, 12:32 AM

Disable Automatic Updates!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

Thought about it... If 8 fixing the following issues, I'll consider it.

1: Windows will not pop up and steal focus away from active windows causing your computer to reboot and loose all your work. Example when typing: "Hi Bob, I would have made it to the party but I was..." POPUP - Would you like to reboot now? Reboot Cancel "...really tired". Windows responds to you pressing R and reboots.

2: Your icons should stay snapped to a grid. Changing resolution down and then back up will not scatter#uck your icons randomly.

3: Windows networking will maintain all network resources without having to refresh manually.

4: Microsoft starts listening to customers.

These are just a handfull of the issues I experience almost daily. I don't just use a computer. I use the shit out of it every day. Playing BF3 24/7 doesn't count.

Lazzer408 · Oct 29, 2012, 12:48 AM

They are disabled.

btarunr · Oct 29, 2012, 05:12 AM

I take back everything I commented about Windows 8 in this thread:

Starts really fast
Solved my GTX 680 desktop micro-stuttering issue caused by heavy use of GPU-accelerated Photoshop
Battlefield 3 doesn't reboot the machine anymore
Applications load faster
For some reason, games seem more "fluid"

It's just a case of bad UI. Nothing a $5 Start8 license wouldn't fix. You could factor Microsoft's $25 introductory price with $5 Start8, and end up with a great OS for $30.

Lazzer408 · Oct 29, 2012, 05:14 AM

Or keep 7 and keep a great OS for $0

What's the memory footprint after loading?

OMG is start8 ugly! I could eat 20lbs of Skittles and shit a better looking GUI then that.

btarunr · Oct 29, 2012, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

Or keep 7 and keep a great OS for $0

Windows 7 doesn't solve my micro-stuttering, BF3 reboots issues, I tried everything under the sun, and it really is slower.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

What's the memory footprint after loading?

About 1.3 GB, I have big-sized drivers (GeForce driver, Creative Recon3D driver, Intel ProSet LAN driver), KAV 2013, and Trillian. I have 12 GB total memory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

OMG is start8 ugly! I could eat 20lbs of Skittles and shit a better looking GUI then that.

Not where I'm standing from:

eidairaman1 · Oct 29, 2012, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by btarunr

Windows 7 doesn't solve my micro-stuttering, BF3 reboots issues, I tried everything under the sun, and it really is slower.

how odd, wonder if BF3 needs a patch or you need a different set of drivers/ card replacement

Lazzer408 · Oct 29, 2012, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eidairaman1

how odd, wonder if BF3 needs a patch or you need a different set of drivers/ card replacement

He should compare a clean install of both OSes and provide benchmarks. It could be malware, tweaks, lack of tweaks, or many other things causing the issue.

I'll stand by 7 as long as I can. I hate every time a new version of Windows comes out I have to wait for drivers IF they decide not to force-outdate my hardware. By the time everything is updated and stable, another Windows version comes out. I hear the same thing every time... "Oh just give Vista a chance, it's faster"

v12dock · Oct 29, 2012, 06:13 AM

I have so many .net issues on W8

Wile E · Oct 29, 2012, 07:14 AM

That reminds me, the other thing I'm waiting for before switching to 8, is official 8 drivers for my Forte, if Auzentech ever releases them.

Lazzer408 · Oct 29, 2012, 09:02 AM

This is great. Windows 8: It's Almost Not Terrible - YouTube

xenocide · Oct 29, 2012, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Windows 7 doesn't solve my micro-stuttering, BF3 reboots issues, I tried everything under the sun, and it really is slower.

Did you tried turning off Hyper Threading which almost always fixes the issue for people?

btarunr · Oct 29, 2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xenocide

Did you tried turning off Hyper Threading which almost always fixes the issue for people?

That's one thing I didn't try. Thanks, but it's too late. With Windows 8, I can keep HTT and not have micro-stuttering.

entropy13 · Oct 29, 2012, 10:08 AM

Posting this here for you Mussels LOL

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...s-equivocation

Pegas-x · Oct 29, 2012, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v12dock

I have so many .net issues on W8

Me too...

tacosRcool · Oct 29, 2012, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by btarunr

Windows 7 doesn't solve my micro-stuttering, BF3 reboots issues, I tried everything under the sun, and it really is slower.

About 1.3 GB, I have big-sized drivers (GeForce driver, Creative Recon3D driver, Intel ProSet LAN driver), KAV 2013, and Trillian. I have 12 GB total memory.

Not where I'm standing from:

http://img.techpowerup.org/121029/bta9834lkjd.jpg

I so agree with that. I hated the start menu for years since it was confined in a little space.

eidairaman1 · Oct 30, 2012, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wile E

That reminds me, the other thing I'm waiting for before switching to 8, is official 8 drivers for my Forte, if Auzentech ever releases them.

You might aswell run them from Creative Labs if CL gets off their ass

hellrazor · Oct 30, 2012, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eidairaman1

You might aswell run them from Creative Labs if CL gets off their ass

Which means that you might as well keep 7 and wait for Half-life 3.

AsphyxiA · Oct 31, 2012, 06:29 PM

I just installed windows 8 last night. I'm actually starting to like it but then again, I am not using Metro/Modern UI as I purchased Start 8. I get faster boot times, and overall, the compositing effects and feel of the OS are just smoother. It has a ton of addons to Explorer and the Task Manager, so, once you get to the desktop, it really feels like a polished W7. My only complaints are that the borders of windows are not transparent, and the stupid lock screen. I really want to disable that.

Edit:: Oh yeah, and I hate the Metro UI start menu but I don't ever see that since, again, I have Start8.

Lazzer408 · Nov 1, 2012, 02:27 AM

And what are people saying?

How people react to Windows 8 - YouTube!

Dos101 · Nov 1, 2012, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazzer408

And what are people saying?

How people react to Windows 8 - YouTube!

I can make a similar video of people with the opposite reaction, so it's not really saying much. Context is everything. SALES will determine if people like Windows 8 or not.

Oct 24, 2012, 04:39 AM	#201
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Oct 29, 2012, 12:20 AM	#205
Lazzer408 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,394 (1.03/day) Thanks: 80 Thanked 320 Times in 242 Posts System Specs	Thought about it... If 8 fixing the following issues, I'll consider it. 1: Windows will not pop up and steal focus away from active windows causing your computer to reboot and loose all your work. Example when typing: "Hi Bob, I would have made it to the party but I was..." POPUP - Would you like to reboot now? Reboot Cancel "...really tired". Windows responds to you pressing R and reboots. 2: Your icons should stay snapped to a grid. Changing resolution down and then back up will not scatter#uck your icons randomly. 3: Windows networking will maintain all network resources without having to refresh manually. 4: Microsoft starts listening to customers. These are just a handfull of the issues I experience almost daily. I don't just use a computer. I use the shit out of it every day. Playing BF3 24/7 doesn't count. __________________ Assuming the many universes theory of quantum mechanics is accurate, everything I say will remain relevant in another reality for all of eternity. Heatware - http://www.heatware.com/user_directo...uery=lazzer408

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Oct 29, 2012, 05:12 AM	#208
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Oct 31, 2012, 06:29 PM	#223
AsphyxiA Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 559 (0.20/day) Thanks: 57 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	I just installed windows 8 last night. I'm actually starting to like it but then again, I am not using Metro/Modern UI as I purchased Start 8. I get faster boot times, and overall, the compositing effects and feel of the OS are just smoother. It has a ton of addons to Explorer and the Task Manager, so, once you get to the desktop, it really feels like a polished W7. My only complaints are that the borders of windows are not transparent, and the stupid lock screen. I really want to disable that. Edit:: Oh yeah, and I hate the Metro UI start menu but I don't ever see that since, again, I have Start8. __________________ Lenovo U410 Core i3 8 GB of RAM 64GB SSD + 1TB HDD nVidia 610m OC -1.2Ghz when plugged in. killer n-1202 wifi

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Nov 1, 2012, 02:27 AM	#224
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