AMD Catalyst 12.11 Performance Analysis

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

yea should be fine just keep the overclocks moderate, and it shouldnt be an issue.

The 619 watt recoommendation was based on overclocking to 4.8 GHz on my FX-8350 , so it's all been factored in, even my Corsair
H100 cooler requirements.

[crazyeyesreaper]

which is all well and good but isnt end all be all i had 2x 6970s stock and 2500k system an HX 850 still failed to power it going pop and killing 2x GPUs and 3x HDDs due to loads on the 3.3v and 5v rails.

619 is well and good but it doesnt say how much is cross loaded what the demands on other rails are so keep that in mind. 8350 oced can hit 200+w and 7950s overclocked can hit 250w 250+250+200 = 650 add in fans hdds pump motherboard requirements etc.

take it from someone that has overloaded and blown up a part or two lol. Chief Broken Rig is a title i have earned

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by crazyeyesreaper

which is all well and good but isnt end all be all i had 2x 6970s stock and 2500k system an HX 850 still failed to power it going pop and killing 2x GPUs and 3x HDDs due to loads on the 3.3v and 5v rails.

619 is well and good but it doesnt say how much is cross loaded what the demands on other rails are so keep that in mind. 8350 oced can hit 200+w and 7950s overclocked can hit 250w 250+250+200 = 650 add in fans hdds pump motherboard requirements etc.

take it from someone that has overloaded and blown up a part or two lol. Chief Broken Rig is a title i have earned

Well the web site that estimates the power needs asks whether you have a high end motherboard, which obviously uses more power, they ask about all attached devices, amount of memory, how many hard drives, how many ssds, what kind and number of front bay peripherals, like card readers, extra usb hub, etc. It is ALL factored in. They know what they are doing and they mention power requirements for all the rails is factored into their formulation. They even ask to what GHZ you plan to overclock the cpu. They ask cpu model. I have complete confidence they are on the money.

[james888]

Originally Posted by os2wiz

Well the web site that estimates the power needs asks whether you have a high end motherboard, which obviously uses more power, they ask about all attached devices, amount of memory, how many hard drives, how many ssds, what kind and number of front bay peripherals, like card readers, extra usb hub, etc. It is ALL factored in. They know what they are doing and they mention power requirements for all the rails is factored into their formulation. They even ask to what GHZ you plan to overclock the cpu. They ask cpu model. I have complete confidence they are on the money.

They are pretty close in my experience. Exact is another matter.

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by james888

They are pretty close in my experience. Exact is another matter.

What is exact in this world? There is Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle

[kciaccio]

Con Edison in New York 39 cents /kwh = $100 a year in added electrcity costs.

Holy shit those unions up there fuck you guys in the ass huh?

Texas is 8 to 11 cents /kwh.

[kciaccio]

Originally Posted by os2wiz

You are not very astute. Who set sprices? Under capitalism it is the capitalist , not the worker, who sets prices as well as wages.
Con Edison is controlled by JP Morgan Chase and the Rockefeller arm of finance capital. The banks siphon off a large portion of corporate earnings through their financing of debt. Con Edison doesn't have any 6 figure union workers. The working class produces all wealth. If they did earn 6 figure salaries, they would deserve every penny of it rather than going to parasitic banks and corporate sharehoilders. Wall Street is screwing us all. Please keep 4 letter words out of your commentary. It is vulgar.

If you have to pay the worker $50 an hour compared to $30 is what sets the prices..Along with competition..and your whole theory falls apart with Texas rates..

[Mussels]

guys.

screw off with the economics and politics in a thread about video card drivers.

[james888]

I welcome you both to my general nonsense thread on the same subject! http://www.generalnonsense.net/showthread.php?t=10231

[kciaccio]

Originally Posted by james888

I welcome you both to my general nonsense thread on the same subject! http://www.generalnonsense.net/showthread.php?t=10231

Awesome..

[levat]

Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 is out.

[Mussels]

thanks levat. lets see what changes they gave us this time

[Mussels]

AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 resolves the issue with engine and memory clocks running too high when the GPU is idle. Clocks will now run at the proper level when the GPU is idle. This issue was only observed with specific displays and was observed in the AMD Catalyst 12.11Beta 4 and AMD Catalyst 12.10 drivers; The AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 has replaced the AMD Catalyst 12.11Beta 4 driver that was posted Oct 23, 2012

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/AMD...2.11_Beta6.exe

[eidairaman1]

Originally Posted by Mussels

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/AMD...2.11_Beta6.exe

ya theres been numerous cases of that across the entire lineup. So im guessing EDID tables are screwed up on several monitors then

[erocker]

These fixed my idle clocks.

[os2wiz]

Originally Posted by erocker

These fixed my idle clocks.

These broke my game Sid Meir's Pirates. Now I get that infamous screen upon starting game "can't access directx support". It was fine with the previous beta. I fixed the problem. Just by deleting the configuration file for video settings, it was able to work again. What a relief.The game is old but still entertaining.

[manofthem]

Originally Posted by erocker

These fixed my idle clocks.

That's what I wanted to hear, very cool.

[levat]

Catalyst 12.11 beta 7 available.

Additional update found in AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta7
◦Call of Duty Black Ops 2: AMD CrossFire performance has been improved in the AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta7 release (especially at higher resolutions – such as 2560x1600)
◦Please note that AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta 7 includes all of the fixes found in previous versions of AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta

http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles...etadriver.aspx

[ulti-killer]

I wanna see GeForce 310.54 Beta Drivers performance.

[xeridium]

Anyone experiencing artifacting, flickering light sources and bsod with 12.11 while playing GTA EFLC? I BSOD once on my 2 day old system. Other games runs flawlessly though.

[AlienIsGOD]

the latest 12.11 beta's are running great on my freshly aquired 7870

[Widjaja]

Originally Posted by AlienIsGOD

the latest 12.11 beta's are running great on my freshly aquired 7870

Yes the performance of these drivers for the 7870 at least is great
A couple of games ran like a dog with the old 12.8s I was using which are now running at optimal level.

Good to hear you are having no issues with your Sapphire 7870 OC.
I was hoping you didn't get any old stock or least the retailers had the decency to return the old faulty stock.

[AlienIsGOD]

Originally Posted by Widjaja

Good to hear you are having no issues with your Sapphire 7870 OC.
I was hoping you didn't get any old stock or least the retailers had the decency to return the old faulty stock.

ya i was a bit worried after reading some newegg reviews, but the card has been rock solid in games and WCG crunching 4WU's at a time since i installed it. My guess (at least i hope this is what it is) is that its a later revision or just not a faulty card. I personally have never had any issues with Sapphire cards > 9250/x1600/4850 times 2/6870/7870. All cards have worked fine and the last 3 cards have o/c ed well too.

[Widjaja]

Originally Posted by AlienIsGOD

ya i was a bit worried after reading some newegg reviews, but the card has been rock solid in games and WCG crunching 4WU's at a time since i installed it. My guess (at least i hope this is what it is) is that its a later revision or just not a faulty card. I personally have never had any issues with Sapphire cards > 9250/x1600/4850 times 2/6870/7870. All cards have worked fine and the last 3 cards have o/c ed well too.

The later revision of the Sapphire 7870 as of May 2012 are supposed to be fault free.

All my AMD cards have been Sapphire in the past as well so it was a surprise for me to see Sapphire had a major fail with one of their cards, in fact a card was was seriously considering until a sale came up for the ASUS model.

As for OCing, I had terrible luck with my Sapphire HD4850.
Core clock would go all the way up to 700 no problems, memory would not budge past 1050.
Either way the card performed very well for me for a number of years right from the get go with an Arctic Twin Turbo installed.

[AlienIsGOD]

Originally Posted by Widjaja

Either way the card performed very well for me for a number of years right from the get go with an Arctic Twin Turbo installed.

ya I strapped 2 Zalman VF1000s on my 4850s and they ran solid from aug 08 to dec 2011